Trump's much-ballyhooed Wisconsin Foxconn plant may import Chinese workers for taxpayer-funded jobs

[DonViejo]

Source: RawStory


MARTIN CIZMAR
06 NOV 2018 AT 08:14 ET

A Wisconsin tech plant which has been hailed by President Donald Trump as a major step forward for American manufacturing is looking to bring in Chinese workers to staff the plant, the Wall Street Journal reports.

Foxconn Technology is a key supplier to Apple, and is opening a large new plant in the Midwest. The plant has been heavily subsidized with $3 billion in American tax dollars, potentially up to one million dollars per job. But with a tight market for qualified American workers, Foxconn is “trying to tap Chinese engineers through internal transfers to supplement staffing.”

“It’s very difficult to find skilled labor in our market,” said a staffing agency near the plant. “All the technical schools and local universities are gearing up their programs, but I still think Foxconn is going to fall short in terms of finding the people they need.”

The company’s plan is to bring in Chinese workers.



Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/trumps-much-ballyhooed-wisconsin-foxconn-plant-may-import-chinese-workers-taxpayer-funded-jobs/

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[Fullduplexxx]

1. Lol wasnt he recalled and then re-elected

[riversedge]

10. yes, but today we just might vote him out!! yes. yes yes

[Achilleaze]

2. How perfectly republican

to lie to the American people and then screw them over

[justhanginon]

6. And in Wisconsin republicans yell in unison, "do it again,

do it again, it feels so good! They don't seem particularly bright.

[Wellstone ruled]

3. That would be

so like Walker.

[irisblue]

4. Well, this paragraph

,It’s very difficult to find skilled labor in our market,” said a staffing agency near the plant. “All the technical schools and local universities are gearing up their programs, but I still think Foxconn is going to fall short in terms of finding the people"

Maybe Wanker Walker stripped the schools too well?

And why does this not suprise me much?

[Racerdog1]

5. Fox & Con

How perfect is that. Elect a fucking clown, you get a circus. Wisconsin, wake the hell up.

[LakeArenal]

27. Way to make new friends on DU

47% of Wisconsin has worked very hard to unseat Wanker. Twice

[The Liberal Lion]

7. Wait WHAT!

Are you really telling me that schools like Case Western, MIT, or Carnegie Mellon aren't producing engineers qualified enough to work in this plant, but they can be found in CHINA! In China! I'm not trying to knock Chinese engineers, but for fucks sake, Case, MIT, CMU! Hell even my alma matter, Pitt, produces some mighty damn fine engineers.
This is unbelievable. If true, then gottdamn, America is truly fucked from an education point of view.

[jmowreader]

19. Engineers aren't the problem here

Last edited Tue Nov 6, 2018, 03:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Foxconn doesn’t engineer anything. Its customers do that. You send all your engineering files to them and they turn them into products.

Foxconn needs assemblers...and right now, there are none in Wisconsin. They haven’t been needed before.

On this I’m willing to meet them halfway. They can import 5000 skilled assemblers but they also have to set up assembler training programs at community colleges in Wisconsin and six other Midwest states that will train 1250 Americans per year, and at the end of each training cycle they have to repatriate 1250 Chinese assemblers to China.

Once the Foxconn plant is completely staffed with Americans, those training programs will be a big lure to other companies wanting to set up production in the US.

[The Liberal Lion]

24. ah, ok. Thanks for the clarification.

[7962]

8. Dont give them a damn visa

[turbinetree]

9. I thought the fascist republicans didn't like immigrants taking over jobs

and that they are going to rape and pillage and create crime, sell drugs, and, and, and....................


Fuck that....................how many are spies from a fucking communist country...........that is already blackmailing industries, like in aviation, if you want to sell planes in our country you have to give us your technology.................fuck that ............

[ROB-ROX]

11. UNEDUCATED ARE CONNED BY CORRUPT REPUBLIC - CONS

I did not see this coming, but it makes sense. You can not employ uneducated people in a highly technical place. California posted 130,000 people moved out of state last year. Most of those people were not highly educated. California gained more college educated then were lost. I see the local colleges are gearing up to educate people to work in technical plant. Good luck with that plan. They bet 3 billion and they LOST........Brilliant people conned by crooked corrupt republic - cons

[KY_EnviroGuy]

12. I hope Democrats pound this up Trump's ass with a 10-lb sledge.

They can get staff from around the nation if they pay a good wage. If they bring in Chinese tech people, it's to save money.

Chinese businessmen would make highly qualified Republicans - they're experts at screwing the workers to save a dime.

........

[allgood33]

13. This is how the GOP does it. And there is no "wall" to keep this kind of labor out.

The GOP doesn't care about American workers.

[beachbum bob]

14. if this story broke yesterday, walker would lose by 15%...hopefully Wisconsin is picking this up so

voters KNOW NOW before they vote

[CrispyQ]

15. "It's very difficult to find skilled labor in our market," said a staffing agency near the plant.

The corporations have been spewing that line since they first started outsourcing tech jobs. It's BS. People would move to the area for decent paying tech jobs. The operative words being "decent paying." The corpos just don't want to pay.

[kimbutgar]

16. In Italy they imported all these Chinese workers to a town outside Florida to sew clothes

So they would have the label made in Italy. I guess foxcon decided that it would also work in a
The repuke controlled state wisconsin.

[dalton99a]

17. Now why didn't they publish this earlier?

Yeah, right

[Bengus81]

18. So...NOW a caravan of Chinese illegals would be OK??

And let's spew the BS that ALL of them get $1 MILLION each of Guberment subsidized money. Yeah Trump,we can play the immigrant game too.

[UpInArms]

20. Everything he touches turns to shit

It’s called the Reverse Midas Touch

[Eugene]

21. Foxconn denies looking to transfer Chinese workers to incoming Wisconsin factory

Source: The Verge

Foxconn denies looking to transfer Chinese workers to incoming Wisconsin factory

By Ashley Carman Nov 6, 2018, 12:10pm EST

The Wall Street Journal reported this morning that Foxconn is looking to transfer some of its Chinese workforce to Wisconsin in time for its new factory opening in Racine. These workers, the Journal reports, would likely be engineers and would fill a gap in prospective talent due to a tight labor market. Given that the entire deal with Foxconn hinged on the promise of new jobs for Americans, that would be an unwelcome surprise for many in Wisconsin.

In a comment to Gizmodo, Foxconn denied that it was recruiting Chinese workers. The company said:

“We can categorically state that the assertion that we are recruiting Chinese personnel to staff our Wisconsin project is untrue. Our recruitment priority remains Wisconsin first and we continue to focus on hiring and training workers from throughout Wisconsin. We will supplement that recruitment from other US locations as required.”

We’ve reached out for independent comment and will update if we hear more.

In November 2017, Wisconsin pledged $3 billion in subsidies for the Taiwan-based company if it opted to open the factory in Wisconsin. In return, Foxconn said it would create 13,000 jobs and invest $10 billion. (The state subsidy came out to $230,000 per job.) The Wall Street Journal report suggests that the company is struggling to find qualified engineers in the area, though, as the unemployment rate in the state reached a record low at 3 percent, along with a recent national low at 3.7 percent.

Read more: https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/6/18068326/foxconn-wisconsin-factory-workers-china-transfer-engineers

[dembotoz]

25. the plant is under construction there is nothing to assemble...so they can lie and be honest same

time

they are not hiring because the fricken walls are not even up

[Perseus]

22. "The company's plan is to bring in Chinese workers." -- Be very worried about this

This is exactly what happened in Venezuela, and the next thing that happened is that all those Chinese people became citizens in a flash and were voting for Chavez, and they do it in a way that its a few Chinese here, then a few over there and so on, small numbers to make sure it escapes scrutiny.

Any moment now the man-child will want to bring Russian "professionals" in the medical industry, mining, technology, etc. as an "exchange", but USA citizens will not be going to Russia, just a few to serve as liaison between the two regimes.

Be very aware, this cannot be good.

[cstanleytech]

23. Should only be allowed for a very limited time with no option for renewal.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

26. Some background info from a couple of experts....

Link to tweet

Text:
Tim Bartik @TimBartik Nov 5
Tim Bartik Retweeted Noah Smith

My calculations show Foxconn incentives are over 10 times typical incentives. Average state/local incentives are rougly equivalent to giving a company a 3% wage subsidy for 20 years. Foxconn's incentives are roughly equivalent to giving a 30% subsidy for 20 years.

Link to tweet

Text:
Noah Smith @Noahpinion

Wisconsin's government paid a Taiwanese company to create jobs in Wisconsin. EACH of these jobs cost Wisconsin taxpayers between $220,000 and $1,000,000.

Why the heck would you do this instead of just having the government employ people directly?!

A lot of good discussion on this deal on both Bartik's and Smith's Twitter pages.......