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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 01:08 PM Nov 2018

Trump Claims Prospect of 'Presidential Harassment' by Democrats Is Causing 'Big Headaches' for...

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Trump Claims Prospect of ‘Presidential Harassment’ by Democrats Is Causing ‘Big Headaches’ for Stock Market

by Josh Feldman | Nov 12th, 2018, 11:11 am

President Donald Trump claimed today that the stock market is having “big headaches” because of the Democrats.

The Democrats taking the House means they will be able to conduct investigations, and Trump borrowed a phrase that Mitch McConnell has used before – “presidential harassment” – only this time in reference to the market:




Trump recently said at a jobs event that if the midterms didn’t go well for the GOP, “I think you’re going to lose a lot of money.” Axios reported on Monday that “there are at least 85 topics that Democrats have said they’d target — or are expected to target — in the forthcoming torrent of investigations and subpoenas to be directed at the Trump White House.”

Those investigations could target everything from Trump’s tax returns to, as Rep. Adam Schiff said on Sunday, his administration’s alleged targeting of media outlets like CNN and the Washington Post.

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Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-claims-prospect-of-presidential-harassment-by-democrats-is-causing-big-headaches-for-stock-market/
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Trump Claims Prospect of 'Presidential Harassment' by Democrats Is Causing 'Big Headaches' for... (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
Maybe it has something to do with falling oil prices, bullshitter and chief. njhoneybadger Nov 2018 #1
Of course the market went down 4du Nov 2018 #10
Everyone will feel it on April 15, 2019. ... aggiesal Nov 2018 #17
IQ45 is not stupid, he is sly and manipulative without a moral compass 4du Nov 2018 #25
How will you get the people that are seeing a bump in their paychecks ... aggiesal Nov 2018 #32
how does some future congressional inquiry into donnie's finances, e.g., affect apple's valuation? unblock Nov 2018 #2
My reply back was benld74 Nov 2018 #3
Collectively it is; based on the expectations of all investors 4du Nov 2018 #14
right! agingdem Nov 2018 #4
WTH? Owens Nov 2018 #5
setting the stage to blame Democrats when the economic bubble pops rurallib Nov 2018 #31
The Pukes tried this in 2007 when the recession. The public John Fante Nov 2018 #33
Just like the stock market went down and down during the Obama years? Stonepounder Nov 2018 #6
Coming from the guy duforsure Nov 2018 #7
Let's start by claiming tRump wasn't born in the USA. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2018 #8
Really? Racerdog1 Nov 2018 #9
Who writes this stuff? C_U_L8R Nov 2018 #11
More frightening: who can believe this stuff? fierywoman Nov 2018 #28
Get use to this narrative Iowa420 Nov 2018 #12
Doesn't he mean that it is causing headaches for him? nt LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #13
The Market is Trending Down due to Higher Interest Rates Ccarmona Nov 2018 #15
Pretty much Cosmocat Nov 2018 #16
Wrong fatboy... Maxheader Nov 2018 #18
The constitution doesn't care about stock markets, this is only the beachbum bob Nov 2018 #19
The orange maggot is the biggest troll ever! kimbutgar Nov 2018 #20
rump is full of it again...nt SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #21
The talking point has gone out . Fullduplexxx Nov 2018 #22
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, Nitram Nov 2018 #23
That deserves an orchestra of tiny violins. Vinca Nov 2018 #24
Stock market did pretty well under Clinton (Whitewater, Lewinsky) and Obama (Bengazi!!) MaryMagdaline Nov 2018 #26
Me, me, me, me, me...everybody look at Me... libdem4life Nov 2018 #27
The Prospect of 'Presidential Harassment' ?? Bfd Nov 2018 #29
He Seriously Needs to Shut the Entire Fuck Up. The_Counsel Nov 2018 #30
This. Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #36
LOL ck4829 Nov 2018 #34
He always forgets that 93% of all stock is owned by the top 20% of households TexasBushwhacker Nov 2018 #35
maybe someone with more knowledge than me can answer this question about the corp tax cut. olddad56 Nov 2018 #37
 

4du

(56 posts)
10. Of course the market went down
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 01:54 PM
Nov 2018

and if the loss is more than 400 points on the Dow, tomorrow it will be up at some point (not necessarily at the close). However, the trend over the next 2 months will be down. The market is based on expectations. Money flooded into the economy this year via Tax cuts and deficit spending. Year to year company earnings looked very good P/E expanded and the market hit new highs. Next year there will be a less money which will enter the economy to stimulate it. Year to year earnings will not look as good, P/E will shrink and the market will go down. Perhaps even crash if a black swan event occurs.

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
17. Everyone will feel it on April 15, 2019. ...
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 02:35 PM
Nov 2018

Apparently, based on a current IRS Agents statement, that
the tax bill passed by IQ45 gave everyone more money in their paychecks.
(This is what is stimulating the economy)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211312532

What was never mentioned was that the tax tables were not adjusted, they are still the same as before.
So all that extra money everyone is getting, will have to be paid back on April 15th.

For example (And this is just an example. Numbers used are for simplicity),
let's say your gross pay is $2000 every 2 weeks is $52,000/yr.
In 2017 after paying payroll taxes your net pay came out to $1000 per pay check.

The new IQ45 2018 tax break for the middle class now gives you an extra $200 per paycheck,
so your net pay is now $1200 per paycheck. That's an extra $5,200 per year.
Unfortunately, that's $5200 that should have been paid as taxes, because the tax tables
were never adjusted for that money to be un-taxable.

You'll get hit with an extra $5200+ in taxes on April 15th.

This is just pure evil.

 

4du

(56 posts)
25. IQ45 is not stupid, he is sly and manipulative without a moral compass
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 04:30 PM
Nov 2018

He is laying the groundwork now to blame the Democrats when the shit hits the fan next year. In economics, there is always a lag between the cause and the effect. We must make sure that we separate ourselves from his economy. Forget hearings on impeachment and his personal affairs, most average people do not understand their importance. Instead, hold high profile hearings on the long-term effects of his economic policy on the average person.

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
32. How will you get the people that are seeing a bump in their paychecks ...
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 05:20 PM
Nov 2018

that they are spending their taxes?

Do you think hearing will work?

I've been setting money aside just like that IRS agent is doing, to cover
the taxes I know I'll be incurring.

unblock

(52,202 posts)
2. how does some future congressional inquiry into donnie's finances, e.g., affect apple's valuation?
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 01:13 PM
Nov 2018


moreover, the market knew democrats would launch investigations the minute it was clear we retook the house, which itself was widely predicted and largely already priced in to the market.

there's not been any particularly huge political news *today* that would affect the markets *today*.

agingdem

(7,848 posts)
4. right!
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 01:18 PM
Nov 2018

so the market dipped way way down and looked like it was crashing when the GOoP had control of the House and it was whose "fault"? certainly not the insane tariffs and and the rising interest rates under the Trump's guy and the tax cut for the wealthy and the fact that the immediate world hates Trump's guts...btw...the GOops still control the House (until January)..so the market is tanking in anticipation of the Dem takeover? isn't there a word for someone who is forever a victim and a hero?..sociopath comes to mind

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
31. setting the stage to blame Democrats when the economic bubble pops
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 04:55 PM
Nov 2018

he's got nothing else and his insane economic policies are bound to run into a wall at some time.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
33. The Pukes tried this in 2007 when the recession. The public
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 05:23 PM
Nov 2018

didn't buy it then, I doubt they'll buy it now.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
6. Just like the stock market went down and down during the Obama years?
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 01:25 PM
Nov 2018

Benghazi
Hillary's emails
The Clinton Foundation
Obama actually born in Africa
Obama hung in effigy
Obama portrayed as witch doctor

IOKIYAR

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
7. Coming from the guy
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 01:46 PM
Nov 2018

Behind cutting over a trillion and a half from Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security, and sabotaging the ACA driving prices sky high, and causing prices to go up from tariffs , and his new NAFTA causing auto prices to rise $4k - 8k per auto, and gives the wealthiest people in this county trillions from their tax fraud bill, and now is claiming his investigations is causing the stock market to crash, give me a break. He's such a fraud, and a conman.

C_U_L8R

(44,999 posts)
11. Who writes this stuff?
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 01:58 PM
Nov 2018

Do they sit in some dark cave dreaming up one catchy deception after another. And they've kept their distribution system remarkably secret - is it just a massive email list or are they still on fax machines?

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
15. The Market is Trending Down due to Higher Interest Rates
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 02:32 PM
Nov 2018

Exploding government debt, weakened corporate earnings, and economy. All due to the Repugs polices of doing nothing but raiding the Treasury and handing that money to the top 1%

Maxheader

(4,372 posts)
18. Wrong fatboy...
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 02:49 PM
Nov 2018
New York (CNN Business)Why are stocks falling again? President Donald Trump says it's because Democrats are gearing up to use their impending control of the House of Representatives to investigate him. As always, when it comes to the markets, the real answer is complicated.
The Dow fell more than 500 points on Monday, dragged down by investors' concerns about the tech sector and the rising dollar. The Nasdaq fell 2.6% and the broader S&P 500 fell 1.7%.
The strong dollar also weighed on stocks. The US currency surged to a 16-month high because investors fear the European economy could stall if no Brexit deal is reached this week. Prospects of another rate hike from the Fed next month have also helped lift the dollar. The rising dollar is a signal of a strong economy, but it hurts sales and profits for American companies that do business overseas.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
23. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 04:10 PM
Nov 2018

ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha....

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
26. Stock market did pretty well under Clinton (Whitewater, Lewinsky) and Obama (Bengazi!!)
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 04:36 PM
Nov 2018

If you can't take the heat (or rain), RESIGN NOW!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,175 posts)
35. He always forgets that 93% of all stock is owned by the top 20% of households
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 11:13 PM
Nov 2018

And that includes indirect ownership through mutual funds, 401Ks, etc. Only 54% of American households own any stock whatsoever.

https://www.npr.org/2017/03/01/517975766/while-trump-touts-stock-market-many-americans-left-out-of-the-conversation

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
37. maybe someone with more knowledge than me can answer this question about the corp tax cut.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 11:51 PM
Nov 2018

with a 40% tax cut for corporations beginning in 2018, wouldn't that make the corporations bottom line look much better this year? and if so, what will be the effect in 2019 of that cut being priced into the corporate bottom line beginning when they start reporting earnings in march for the first qtr of 2019?

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