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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 07:40 PM Nov 2018

Ivanka Trump used a personal email account to send hundreds of emails about government business

Source: Washington Post

Ivanka Trump sent hundreds of emails last year to White House aides, Cabinet officials and her assistants using a personal account, many of them in violation of federal records rules, according to people familiar with a White House examination of her correspondence.

White House ethics officials learned of Trump’s repeated use of personal email when reviewing emails gathered last fall by five Cabinet agencies to respond to a public records lawsuit. That review revealed that throughout much of 2017, she often discussed or relayed official White House business using a private email account with a domain that she shares with her husband, Jared Kushner.

The discovery alarmed some advisers to President Trump, who feared that his daughter’s practices bore similarities to the personal email use of Hillary Clinton, an issue he made a focus of his 2016 campaign. Trump attacked his Democratic challenger as untrustworthy and dubbed her “Crooked Hillary” for using a personal email account as secretary of state.

Some aides were startled by the volume of Ivanka Trump’s personal emails — and taken aback by her response when questioned about the practice. Trump said she was not familiar with some details of the rules, according to people with knowledge of her reaction.

The White House referred requests for comment to Ivanka Trump’s attorney and ethics counsel, Abbe Lowell.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ivanka-trump-used-a-personal-email-account-to-send-hundreds-of-emails-about-government-business-last-year/2018/11/19/6515d1e0-e7a1-11e8-a939-9469f1166f9d_story.html?utm_term=.8acc974f8b35

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Ivanka Trump used a personal email account to send hundreds of emails about government business (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Nov 2018 OP
BUT HER EMAILS!!!!!! THIS IS HUGH!!11!! OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!! hatrack Nov 2018 #1
Lock her up!! nt jezebel321 Nov 2018 #2
Lock her up exboyfil Nov 2018 #3
+1 Jarqui Nov 2018 #18
Welll now..... FarPoint Nov 2018 #4
K&R ck4829 Nov 2018 #5
I want every Democrat to stand up and yell, Lock her up! ffr Nov 2018 #6
Exactly gopiscrap Nov 2018 #58
Lock her up Botany Nov 2018 #7
+1 dalton99a Nov 2018 #21
#CrookedIvanka KentuckyWoman Nov 2018 #8
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyes! ffr Nov 2018 #22
Lock Her Up!!! Trenzalore Nov 2018 #9
Wasn't this brought to light shortly after Trump took office? Arkansas Granny Nov 2018 #10
Yes. I'm remembering the same thing. There was a story about Ivanka and Jared both using Mrs. Overall Nov 2018 #13
Good find. I was sure I had seen previous reports. Arkansas Granny Nov 2018 #28
What Ivanka did was worse, because it wasn't against the law when Hillary did it. pnwmom Nov 2018 #11
Hillary wasn't trying to financially benefit either. Unlike this sleaze. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #19
What was more questionable was that she did not leave the State Department work emails that karynnj Nov 2018 #36
And there was a law that was passed in 2013 that for the first time required pnwmom Nov 2018 #45
There was a change that Obama signed in 2014 that required all personal email karynnj Nov 2018 #48
David Corn was laughing. 3catwoman3 Nov 2018 #12
What is IOKIYAR? ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #26
It's OK If You're A Republican displacedtexan Nov 2018 #33
No, no, I was answering in the form of a question like they do on Jeopardy. ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #38
Duh. Sorry. displacedtexan Nov 2018 #56
"similarities to" Hilary Clinton's email use? The Blue Flower Nov 2018 #14
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2018 #15
This Needs To Be Shouted Out To The American People By.... global1 Nov 2018 #16
It's ok if you're a republican. keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #17
that's it. hypocrisy always appalachiablue Nov 2018 #23
NO. it's not. Start a lawsuit. mpcamb Nov 2018 #49
No, Republicans consider mis-use of e-mails to be treasoness felonies!! ooky Nov 2018 #54
I know Donald will make her server available to the FBI asap Jarqui Nov 2018 #20
She didn't have a server, she used a publicly available service from Microsoft. hughee99 Nov 2018 #31
The pertinent question for me is thbobby Nov 2018 #24
Ivaaahnnka! No-o-o-o-o-o! FakeNoose Nov 2018 #25
I'm sure Graham is convening a committee to investigate this as we speak ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #27
Oh, the party I am going to have warmfeet Nov 2018 #29
LOCK HER UP!! LOCK HER UP!! LOCK HER UP!! n/t TygrBright Nov 2018 #30
House Oversight Committee subpoenas incoming!!! RockRaven Nov 2018 #32
Hey, aren't Republicans investigating Comey and Loretta Lynch? watoos Nov 2018 #34
Different rules apply to Hillary... Amaryllis Nov 2018 #35
Hipocracy? A toothless word these days. Just business as usual for Law and order party. Ivanka and Pepsidog Nov 2018 #37
LOCK HER UP! SergeStorms Nov 2018 #39
You appear to be suggesting Bob Loblaw Nov 2018 #40
Can't get anything past you, Bob! SergeStorms Nov 2018 #42
"White House ethics officials"???? central scrutinizer Nov 2018 #41
It's nothing but... SergeStorms Nov 2018 #43
But who would've known about that... ZeroSomeBrains Nov 2018 #44
trumpanzis rushing to her defense in 3,2,1... oldlibdem Nov 2018 #46
I'm pretty sure their answer will be Bettie Nov 2018 #47
Lock her up! LBM20 Nov 2018 #50
This is all Hillary's fault IronLionZion Nov 2018 #51
I really do hate there people. Solly Mack Nov 2018 #52
Vid from MSNBC Cal Tek Nov 2018 #53
If anyone wants to hack her account her password is LikeOMGthanksdaddy! underpants Nov 2018 #55
I am shocked, shocked! shanny Nov 2018 #57
Oh Hell Ya... LovingA2andMI Nov 2018 #59
K&R UpInArms Nov 2018 #60
If you've ever had any question about what irony is... Yavin4 Nov 2018 #61
WH explanation: Ivanka hadn't been specifically told NOT to use private emails -- sounds familiar. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2018 #62
K&R Scurrilous Nov 2018 #63

ffr

(22,669 posts)
6. I want every Democrat to stand up and yell, Lock her up!
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 07:43 PM
Nov 2018

The deplorables must hear us loud and clear.

Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
13. Yes. I'm remembering the same thing. There was a story about Ivanka and Jared both using
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 07:49 PM
Nov 2018

personal emails and refusing to move to a government server.

I'll look for the story and post a link.

On edit:

Sept 2017: NYT--At Least 6 White House Advisors Used Private Email Accounts
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/us/politics/private-email-trump-kushner-bannon.html

Oct. 2017: Newsweek--Ivanka and Jared's Private Email Account Leads to a World of Hurt
https://www.newsweek.com/ivanka-and-jareds-private-email-account-leads-world-hurt-681598

Many more stories broke in Sept/Oct 2017 about Ivanka and Jared using private emails for gov. business.

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
36. What was more questionable was that she did not leave the State Department work emails that
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 08:57 PM
Nov 2018

they were already obligated to give to Congress and media (FOIA requests). Technically, her work related emails should have been considered work products -- ie belonging to the State Department. At minimum, this was uncomfortable for the second term Obama administration.

Here, one should question if Ivanka and others were not using government emails to avoid potential scrutiney.

Once the Clinton emails were out, we saw that was nothing controversial - other than a small number of classified emails -- which would have been equally a problem if sent to a dot gov account - as that is not a secure system either classified information. Even then, many of those things were upgraded in their classification in 2015/2016. This makes sense if something that seemed inocuous originally led to things the government later saw would "out" things they wanted secret.

Where I agree with you 100% was that there was no consistent procedure to use .gov by the secretaries preceding Clinton. Email became increasingly how people communicated over time. This meant that Albright said she did not use email, Powell used email butthe .gov system was just an intranet - so he used a personal commercial account for all email not to someone in the State Department. Condi Rice also claimed not to use email. Note no one restricted their non classified work email to .gov. When John Kerry became secretary, he used .gov almost exclusively. The almost was explained that some people, who had known him for years, used private accounts writing to him. His staff transfered them regularly to the state department account and his responses went from there.

At this point, after at least 2 years of hearing about Clinton's emails, it is clear that there is now a standard -- one Ivanka clearly ignored.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
45. And there was a law that was passed in 2013 that for the first time required
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 09:44 PM
Nov 2018

SoS and others to only use the .gov system.

That was the law Ivanka was breaking, and it wasn't passed till after Hillary left office.

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
48. There was a change that Obama signed in 2014 that required all personal email
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 10:00 PM
Nov 2018

- for work - had to be copied to the person's .gov account. But, the State Department was supposed to have the work records. https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/mar/12/hillary-clintons-email-did-she-follow-all-rules/

3catwoman3

(23,973 posts)
12. David Corn was laughing.
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 07:49 PM
Nov 2018

He said he wasn’t sure if it was stupidity, hubris, or carelessness.

Hubris for $1000, /Alex.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
38. No, no, I was answering in the form of a question like they do on Jeopardy.
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 09:12 PM
Nov 2018

I know what the acronym stands for.

global1

(25,241 posts)
16. This Needs To Be Shouted Out To The American People By....
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 07:53 PM
Nov 2018

the MSM, Cable News Organiztions, Newspapers and all the Dems in Congress.

Trump and his family get away with doing anything they damn well please and we let the off the hook all the time. This has got to stop and they need to be held accountable.

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
49. NO. it's not. Start a lawsuit.
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 10:04 PM
Nov 2018

Maybe that's why we have this leadership at the top.
Time to move beyond shrugging shoulders, denouncing, bewailing and strongly written letters.
We need an army of Dem lawyers to challenge each unconstitutionsal move these rats make.
Any $ left in the till after the election?

ooky

(8,922 posts)
54. No, Republicans consider mis-use of e-mails to be treasoness felonies!!
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 10:59 PM
Nov 2018

House oversight committee must have many investigations of this. She should have to testify as many times as Hillary did, and must submit to answering questions to the FBI, like Hillary. Lock her up, lock her up.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
31. She didn't have a server, she used a publicly available service from Microsoft.
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 08:33 PM
Nov 2018

Microsoft has stored her emails and they are all recoverable, even the ones she didn't turn over to the government for archiving.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
24. The pertinent question for me is
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 08:08 PM
Nov 2018

what was she hiding using a personal email account? She knew she should use official email accounts and chose not to. Why? Hypocrisy for sure, but hiding criminality also seems likely.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
34. Hey, aren't Republicans investigating Comey and Loretta Lynch?
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 08:46 PM
Nov 2018

Lol, they can save some money and do Ivanka at the same time, bwhahaha.

She didn't know it was wrong after Republicans investigated Hillary for 4 years. Lock her up.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
37. Hipocracy? A toothless word these days. Just business as usual for Law and order party. Ivanka and
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 08:59 PM
Nov 2018

her whispy voice and outfits make me want to puke. Every word, outfit, walk to the car is choreographed for the cameras. The plastic surgery can’t hide the fact that she is an awkward and lanky. In fact she looks like Big Bird from Sesame Street. In fact Benedict Donald likes handing out nicknames so much I think we should name is favorite kid Big Bird. With the exception of Baron and Tiffany, his kids are as complicit and criminal as he is. Jr. cheating on his wife while she raises 5 yes 5 kids all under 13 years old. Even his kids spouses are despicable. Eric’s wife and Jared, criminals. Jr’s estranged wife is the only decent one. She took and 5 kids and hit the road. She couldn’t stand Jr’s politics either. Jr, the cheater, is now enjoying Gavin Newsome’s sloppy seconds shacking up with the plastic piece of garbage ex-Fox 5 star that Grandpa Trump was trying hit. I mean is this the most despicable family in the country ? Truly there isn’t any worse.

SergeStorms

(19,195 posts)
39. LOCK HER UP!
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 09:13 PM
Nov 2018

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Now we know a Republican president (along with his brain-dead cult), and both Republican Houses of Congress wouldn't be a hypocrites, right???

SergeStorms

(19,195 posts)
43. It's nothing but...
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 09:26 PM
Nov 2018

a cardboard cut-out of Ronald Reagan giving Richard Nixon a reach around with "Ethics Department" written across it with black marker. That's as close to "ethics" as republicans ever get.

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
44. But who would've known about that...
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 09:35 PM
Nov 2018

Except that this exact practice was the centerpiece of the case your father used to assume the White House that you now are working in.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
61. If you've ever had any question about what irony is...
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 09:29 AM
Nov 2018

The Trump administration should have cleared that up.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,412 posts)
62. WH explanation: Ivanka hadn't been specifically told NOT to use private emails -- sounds familiar.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 01:12 PM
Nov 2018
David Fahrenthold Retweeted

The WH explanation -- that Ivanka hadn't been specifically told NOT to use private emails -- sounds awfully familiar. Amazing that the Trumps fell into this of all traps. @CarolLeonnig @jdawsey1


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