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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 05:42 PM Nov 2018

UPDATED - Michael Avenatti will not face felony charges in domestic violence case: report

Last edited Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: RawStory

DOMINIQUE JACKSON
21 NOV 2018 AT 16:33 ET

Stormy Daniels' lawyer Michael Avenatti will not be charged with felony domestic violence by the Los Angeles County district attorney.

Avenatti was arrested on suspicion of domestic violence last week.

Avenatti said on Twitter that he will focus his efforts on bringing down President Donald Trump and his "unethical cronies."







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Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/michael-avenatti-will-not-be-charged-in-domestic-violence-case-report/



UPDATE:

Los Angeles prosecutor declines felony case against Avenatti

By BRIAN MELLEY
40 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- The Los Angeles district attorney declined to prosecute attorney Michael Avenatti on felony domestic abuse charges on Wednesday and referred allegations that he roughed up his girlfriend to the city attorney for a possible misdemeanor case.

Avenatti, 47, was arrested on a felony domestic violence charge last week after his girlfriend told police he abused her at his Los Angeles apartment following an argument.

A restraining order against Avenatti was issued after actress Mareli Miniutti said he dragged her by the arm across a bedroom floor.

Avenatti, who had called the allegations "completely false" and a fabrication, said in a statement he was thankful the district attorney had rejected the charges.

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https://apnews.com/71d38227507640e796d0db0b9256f038

PoliticAverse
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UPDATED - Michael Avenatti will not face felony charges in domestic violence case: report (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
They got into a fight, girl friend got pissed offed, filed charges, BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #1
He cut her off financially. DURHAM D Nov 2018 #2
It didn't say that. They got into a fight over money, is what it said. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #9
she isn't at the level where she would make much money JI7 Nov 2018 #13
No, she's just starting. But she was in two movies in 2018, and one to be released in 2019... Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #15
"Known name"? TexasBushwhacker Nov 2018 #22
There's no need to trash her. Sorry you never heard of her. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #25
Maybe she needs to be charged. ChiTownDenny Nov 2018 #4
She isn't the one who decided to arrest him. It's probably protocol. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #16
Clearly you're uninformed about the case and rude! n/t ChiTownDenny Nov 2018 #36
Not quite closed, it has been referred to the city attorney for a possible misdemeanor charge. PoliticAverse Nov 2018 #6
It sounds like he was trying to remove her from the premises. forgotmylogin Nov 2018 #7
Not only is it not cool to drag someone against her will, it's illegal. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #11
It will be less embarrassing for him in the end. WhiteTara Nov 2018 #23
But sounds like he didn't even do that. forgotmylogin Nov 2018 #29
Yu do know there is nothing that you quoted... Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #30
Exactly! Duppers Nov 2018 #24
I like facts. Facts equal truth. It doesn't matter whether I like or hate the accused... Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #31
OH NO. I had already been taught what to think of Avenatti by a couple of thousand negative posters BamaRefugee Nov 2018 #3
It's still bad enough that he won't have a nat'l political career, now, if that's where he was going Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #17
I see what you did there! SKKY Nov 2018 #26
Associated Press story on the issue... PoliticAverse Nov 2018 #5
The only question, in my mind, that remains is ... TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #8
It seems legit. They were living together. They had a fight. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #12
As long as there is some evidence to support her story, bobGandolf Nov 2018 #18
I don't think he was ever charged w/a felony. That's from the Trump-related fake TMZ story. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #27
Still doesn't look good ArizonaLib Nov 2018 #10
"She hit me first" is from the FAKE TMZ article. TMZ is like National Enquirer...a Trump mouthpiece. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #14
Not been to that site in ages. Just too wild. and get zapped with with too many ads as I recall. riversedge Nov 2018 #20
I didn't get it from TMZ - must have been somewhere else ArizonaLib Nov 2018 #21
It originated from the fake pro-Trump TMZ article. That was never reported by a real news org. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #28
Really? Geez, I guess money does bobGandolf Nov 2018 #35
Don't spread fake news Yosemito Nov 2018 #32
Kindly read the whole post ArizonaLib Nov 2018 #33
Link to Alternet please... Yosemito Nov 2018 #34
Oh man, the Russians are going to be pissed MyNameGoesHere Nov 2018 #19

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)
1. They got into a fight, girl friend got pissed offed, filed charges,
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 05:49 PM
Nov 2018

everyone calmed down...case closed. Everyone go back to what you were doing. Show over.

DURHAM D

(32,605 posts)
2. He cut her off financially.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 05:51 PM
Nov 2018

Pissed her off.

Been trying to figure out if he paid for her recent surgery.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. It didn't say that. They got into a fight over money, is what it said.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:21 PM
Nov 2018

She's a working actress with her own income. It could have been that she spent too much on something, and they gt into it over that. But the articles don't say exactly what caused the fight, other than financial.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. No, she's just starting. But she was in two movies in 2018, and one to be released in 2019...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:32 PM
Nov 2018

and a lot of bits and pieces in the past. She makes a living. She is a beautiful actress with a known name, so she's not getting paid just scale.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,135 posts)
22. "Known name"?
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:05 PM
Nov 2018

I looked at her IMDB page. She has 8 credits - 3 are "uncredited" meaning she was an extra, 2 are shorts and 3 are unreleased films where she had minor roles.

She has a husband, Michael Minuitti, in NY.

She is not self supporting. Avenetti was taking care of her financially. She doesn't deserve to be slapped around though.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
25. There's no need to trash her. Sorry you never heard of her.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:10 AM
Nov 2018

She's one of those "up and comer" very young babes.

She's a working actress, so has her own income. He supported her to the extent she moved in with him, so when he paid the mortgage or rent, he was paying for her, too. When he paid for groceries, he bought extra lettuce for her. When he went to eat out, he paid for hers, too, as is the custom in America. But she may have contributed....we don't know. HE offered for HER to move in. She's not a homeless freeloader bilking him out of money. He has financial trouble, so she probably could have found someone in better financial shape.

In any case, she is a working actress and has her own income. Period. She's very young, so she is doing very well for her age in a very tough business. There's no reason to denigrate her accomplishments for her stage in life.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. She isn't the one who decided to arrest him. It's probably protocol.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:34 PM
Nov 2018

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She reported what happened, the law officers decide what to do with that information. In my area, if someone claims that someone they are with (living with or a bf or gf), officers take the alleged assaulter into custody immediately, out of abundance of caution, and to let things cool down, before higher ups decide what happened, if someone is to be charged or released.

Interesting how people are blaming the victim for reporting someone physically dragging her around or whatever.

It's outrageous that you would say the victim should be charged.

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
7. It sounds like he was trying to remove her from the premises.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:37 PM
Nov 2018

Yeah, not cool to manhandle anyone like that, but it doesn't sound like he was beating her or that this was an episode of serial abuse.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. Not only is it not cool to drag someone against her will, it's illegal.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:25 PM
Nov 2018

If someone won't leave your premises on request, you call the police.

The reason why he didn't call the police, I suppose, is that once you provide someone a place to live, you may have to give them notice. You can't just kick them out to the street. I know that is the case if they pay rent. But I don't know if that applies if they don't pay rent, but your house is now that person's legal residence (mail, using the address for income tax filings and business, etc.), so that may be the case in that situation, too.

So he lost control, lost his temper...and lost his national political career.

WhiteTara

(29,692 posts)
23. It will be less embarrassing for him in the end.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:25 PM
Nov 2018

He didn't have a political career on the national level.

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
29. But sounds like he didn't even do that.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 11:04 AM
Nov 2018
Miniutti then went to the guest bedroom to sleep, and Avenatti allegedly followed her and approached her in a "threatening manner" before "forcefully hitting" her in the face with pillows, she wrote in her filing.

While the apartment complex contained multiple security cameras, at no point do they "show force, violence or offensive touching of Ms. Miniutti by Mr. Avenatti," the letter obtained by ABC News stated.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/avenatti-girlfriend-fighting-money-alleged-domestic-violence-occurred/story?id=59323915

The place was specified in the article as "the couple's home" but if they're not married and she's not on the lease, she's a guest and has no legal recourse for being "kicked out". I can't imagine Avenatti, a lawyer, would say something like "you don't get to sleep here tonight" if she were legally residing there.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
30. Yu do know there is nothing that you quoted...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:28 PM
Nov 2018

that indicates he did not drag her around the residence by her arm. Fact: He has not denied that. Fact: A camera can show what it shows; it cannot show what it cannot show, and it cannot show everything. I didn't read the article, but I doubt there's an apt complex camera in their bedroom, which is where he is said to start dragging her by her arm.

I worked in the legal field for decades as a litigation paralegal. I'm used to the way the truth is not told, by simply wording things a certain way.

If I say you dragged me around by my arm, and you say, "I did not assault you! That's a lie!", you have not denied that you dragged me around by my arm. "Assault" is a conclusion and meaningless, since it does not describe your actions.

If I say you dragged me around, and you say "there were cameras all around the complex; they will show I never hit her," the response is actually a lie. "Cameras all around the complex" is meaningless; what matters is ...is there security camera footage showing our interactions in the place and at the time of the supposed dragging? And again...that cameras don't show you hitting me/her is meaningless, unless, again, they were pointed at the place and time in question. They could be showing the parking lot all night.



Duppers

(28,117 posts)
24. Exactly!
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 11:03 PM
Nov 2018

I don't understand why some here want to bash the hell out of him.

And I consider myself a strong feminist but I've never felt like stomping every man who's ever had a finger pointed at him without considering the facts and the guy's history and reputation - think Al Franklin. Who benefits *politically*?


Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
31. I like facts. Facts equal truth. It doesn't matter whether I like or hate the accused...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:35 PM
Nov 2018

the only thing that matters about allegations is whether they are true, as shown by the facts.

I don't know Avenattis' history and reputation, actually. He's remarkable in many ways. But I've been around long enough to see that some extraordinary people have a tragic flaw. Like Bill Clinton. The Greeks wrote a lot of plays about that very thing...the tragedy of a remarkable person who loses all because of a tragic flaw. (Not saying that's Avenatti.)

This seems like just a bad fight. He manhandled her, which I guess is a misdemeanor. No one is legally allowed to put his hands on someone else like that, except in self defense. Avenatti and his gf are too old to have out of control fights like that. It's just silly.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
3. OH NO. I had already been taught what to think of Avenatti by a couple of thousand negative posters
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 05:51 PM
Nov 2018

here....NOW WHAT???
Yes again
I work in the justice field and know full well that it takes TIME for everything to be revealed in a case.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. It's still bad enough that he won't have a nat'l political career, now, if that's where he was going
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:37 PM
Nov 2018

It seems that he did drag her around the house by her arm during a fight they were having over money.

Joke's on him. She did something he didn't think she'd do. She reported it.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
5. Associated Press story on the issue...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:07 PM
Nov 2018
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The Los Angeles district attorney declined to prosecute attorney Michael Avenatti on felony domestic abuse charges on Wednesday and referred allegations that he roughed up his girlfriend to the city attorney for a possible misdemeanor case.


Read the whole story at: https://apnews.com/71d38227507640e796d0db0b9256f038

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
8. The only question, in my mind, that remains is ...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:07 PM
Nov 2018

How much did the rethugs pay this woman for her smear campaign?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. It seems legit. They were living together. They had a fight.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:28 PM
Nov 2018

He dragged her around the apartment by her arm, she says. If you notice, what he says is that he didn't "assault" her. "Assault" is a conclusion, not a description of what he did.

She's a working actress with her own career, although it's just getting started. My guess is that she wanted to get back at him, but not a political thing. Esp if he kicked her out with no notice. (they lived together)

bobGandolf

(871 posts)
18. As long as there is some evidence to support her story,
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:51 PM
Nov 2018

like a scraped arm, for example, I have no problem believing the woman.

I am a little suspicious about its escalation to a felony level, and am pretty sure THAT was politically motivated, but I think it is a disservice to the victim to automatically disbelieve her.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
10. Still doesn't look good
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:24 PM
Nov 2018

He doesn't have any security service at home? "She hit me first" I remember reading. Not sure of any facts, but the reported accounts don't look good. Skeptical but hopeful that no one was hurt. I hope this isn't one of those cases where if he did get violent that he didn't make a deal with her where she helps prevent any charges.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. "She hit me first" is from the FAKE TMZ article. TMZ is like National Enquirer...a Trump mouthpiece.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:30 PM
Nov 2018

It is not a legitimate news organization. It's a gossip rag, like the National Enquirer. Also like The National Enquirer, its owner (Harvey Levin) is a bff of Trump who twisted stories to help him get elected.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
21. I didn't get it from TMZ - must have been somewhere else
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:03 PM
Nov 2018

The only 2 sites I have checked in the last couple of weeks is DU and Alternet. Maybe I remember it from someone's comments. Glad I wrote originally that I wasn't 'sure of any facts'. Good reminder about TMZ.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
33. Kindly read the whole post
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 01:17 AM
Nov 2018

I didn't accuse him of anything. I hope he didn't do anything wrong and no one was the victim of anything violent or abhorrent. I hope he maintains adequate security for a person of his profile, and would be surprised if didn't have security on the grounds of his residence. Seems odd if he didn't. The subject of your post implies I was spreading 'Fake News'. When someone indicated it was sourced from TMZ, and I don't follow TMZ, I surmised that I must have read someone else's comment, because I wasn't sure specifically where it came from. I also remember only looking at DU and Alternet for news over the past weeks, and I don't think Alternet would post TMZ articles as news. My original post also said I didn't know any of the facts. It's all there. Check it out. Also, look at any of my other posts, and you will find that none of them are anything like what you are implying about that post. Happy Thanksgiving.

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