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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:52 AM Nov 2018

Saudis weighing OPEC production cuts

Source: The Hill


BY CHRIS MILLS RODRIGO - 11/24/18 08:58 AM EST

Saudi Arabia and OPEC are reportedly considering cutting production without triggering price hikes, The Wall Street Journal reported Friday.

With the production cuts, the cartel aims to rebalance the oversupplied global oil markets, according to the Journal.

-snip-

A Saudi official told the Journal on Friday that the cut "would be more discrete," adding that it would be a "quid-pro-quo" between the Saudis and Trump.

“It is quite a political move. The last thing Saudi Arabia wants to do at the moment is to risk upsetting Trump,” a Saudi official told the paper.

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Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/418062-saudis-weighing-opec-production-cuts

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dawg day

(7,947 posts)
1. Trump will find some way to spin this as good for us--
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 11:10 AM
Nov 2018

After all, what's good for this murderous little prince is GOOD in Trump's mind.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
3. Nope. Saudi can be counted on to do what's good for Saudi and nothing else.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 11:18 AM
Nov 2018

And cheap oil undercuts the bloody prince's drive to diversify their economy.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
5. Anyone else getting fed up with these posts from The Hill?
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 11:24 AM
Nov 2018

I actually tried to read the article but it was full of double speak, gobbledy gook.

OPEC and SA are going to do a discrete oil production cut that has no effect on price because SA doesn't want to make Trump mad because he is covering for the crown prince's murder of the journalist.

The freaking world is being ruled by mobsters.

iluvtennis

(19,835 posts)
8. Cutting oil production w/o triggering price hikes is a false hypothesis. It's basic economics
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 04:16 PM
Nov 2018

about supply and demand. The supply goes down with the demand remaining the same or increasing, and PRICES WILL GO UP.

Does the Hill reporter not have critical thinking skills to point this out in the article.

Xolodno

(6,384 posts)
10. With the world ignoring the US pull out of the Iran deal...
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 01:35 AM
Nov 2018

...Iran and Russia will still come out on top. The OPEC Cartel was effective when Iran's oil was limited due to sanctions and Russia was under a different economic system under Soviet rule. Both Iran and Russia can produce oil at cheaper prices than the OPEC Cartel. OPEC can cut output and limit supply, it will raise the price...but Iran and Russia will reap the greatest rewards.

Unless of course, they, Russia and Iran, decide to fill the "hole". In which case, OPEC produces less, but doesn't see a rise in prices and thus revenue. But rather a decrease in revenue due to less production.

This next part is anecdotal, went to college with a lot of Middle East students....with obvious connections. Many weren't too bright. During one of our final exams in our senior year...let me back up a bit, it wasn't uncommon to turn over your test and blue book on your desk, get up, and take a walk down the hall and compose your thoughts...Being and Economics major isn't exactly easy...well at least the school I went to. And although you had a few hours to do this test, usually there were three...sometimes four questions and you picked two you wanted to answer. In other-words the answers had to be very thorough.

So during this long engagement, the Professor who was essentially just "standing watch" would also occasionally wander the hall when a lot of the class decided on their own to take a break. The Professor had just walked out and I thought to myself, "soon as I finish this paragraph, I'll take a break". Then I saw it happen, two "connected" students started sharing answers....some walked back in and started comparing their answers. I walked out and ignored it, they could cheat their exams, but will fail in the end. Took my break, came back, finished the exam.

Later when we got our results, I got a "B", the Professor stated he was informed of people being "dishonorable". And as a refugee from Communist China, he stated that he didn't care who was cheating, but given his experience in life, they all come to a bad end. Later, he was my Professor for my Senior Seminar/Project, I chose income inequality as my study....despite being a Greenspan worshiper at the time (and everyone knew I was), I knew it was good to challenge my thinking. I had 10 pages of written (and very dry...as my sister put it when I asked her to proof read it) analysis, 100+ pages of data backing that analysis up...declaring the opposite of what I wanted. This may have been my first move from being conservative...to going "left". Anyway, I got an A+....the second I got from him, the first was during my junior year when asked to compare Clinton and Dole's economic plans, I shredded, burned and buried President Clinton's economic plan.

But back to the point because I'm wandering here...and have had a "healthy" dose of wine...if what I experienced of certain classmates are representative of the rest... I see some serious miss-steps coming from OPEC.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
11. The American people should
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 09:11 AM
Nov 2018

As much as possible boycott using oil, and demand the Saudi's change leadership from this murderer now in control, and not fall for this lower gasoline prices bribe, and trump bs they're pushing to cover up he murderer Khashoggi.

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