Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Tests 2020 White House Run in New Hampshire

[brooklynite]

Source: Roll Call

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard ditched the beaches of Hawaii for New Hampshire over the weekend as she considers whether to jump into what is expected to be a crowded race for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020.

It is the second time this fall Gabbard has visited the Granite State, a bellwether for presidential hopefuls since it’s the first state on the primary election calendar each cycle.

“I’m seriously thinking of how I can best be of service to our country,” the Hawaii Democrat, an ardent backer of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders in the 2016 Democratic primaries, told the Honolulu Star-Advertiser before a scheduled meet-and-greet with activists in New Hampshire on Sunday.

Read more: http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/rep-tulsi-gabbard-tests-2020-white-house-run-new-hampshire

[hlthe2b]

1. Seems to be an emerging outbreak of cluelessness and self-delusion...

[brooklynite]

4. Sometimes, the "fire in the belly" is just heartburn...

[George II]

51. Bazinga!

[still_one]

2. Send your regards to Assad

[Devil Child]

65. Which is more damaging in the end to you?

Rep. Gabbard's so-called support for Assad or Sen. Manchin's confirmed support for Kavanaugh? The actions of one will have lasting consequences on my daily life for the foreseeable future and it surely is not Rep. Gabbard meeting Assad.

[still_one]

70. excuse me, manchin doesn't have presidential ambitions, Obama hater Tulsi does

and since I don’t live in West Virginia it is up to the populace of that state to decide on Manchin

Nice worthless straw man argument you setup though, and Tulsi’s anti-Muslim, anti-gay past, along with her Obama bashing appearance in Fox News is why she will NEVER be nominatied. She burnt her bridges

[Devil Child]

74. My point is regarding the scorn towards Rep. Gabbard

I don't weigh the charges against her as heavily as you seem to do. I despise Sen. Manchin for his Kavanaugh vote but if by some inexplicable reason it was Trump vs Manchin in 2020 I would unflinchingly vote for Manchin.

[still_one]

76. I don't care for hypotheticals that realistically won't occur. Manchin will never be

the democratic nominee if he decided to run for president, and he knows it.

Maybe the Republican nomination

[lapucelle]

79. Interesting framing...

Which is more damaging in the end to you?

The actions of one will have lasting consequences on my daily life...

[Polybius]

93. I'll go ahead and say it, I'd rather have someone support Kavanaugh than support Assad

Both stink, but one is vastly worse than the other.

[jcgoldie]

96. So your best argument for her is she is not as bad as the worst democrat in the senate?

[redstatebluegirl]

3. Nope....

[ZeroSomeBrains]

5. No

👎

[DURHAM D]

6. Pass

[Thekaspervote]

7. Pass.. no notta

[watoos]

8. She gets my vote.

Saddam Hussein was also a butcher but we had no business in invading Iraq. All of you posters here must have short memories? What will the interests of America be served in ousting Assad? What's the game plan?

I would like to see her as a VP.

[Devil Child]

14. +1 n/t

[Cha]

81. Just NO. and nobody has short

memories here.. thank you very much. I remember assad gassing his own people. That's what we wanted to stop.

I remember her going on fauxnews bad mouthing President Obama.

[violetpastille]

9. Shrug. Okay. Whatever.

[Stand and Fight]

10. No thanks.

[Devil Child]

11. She has my support!

[obamanut2012]

39. Why?

[Devil Child]

59. Solid progressive voice, issue focused, not afraid to take a stand, etc...

I see nothing about her that is exclusionary for pursuit of higher office. She is a Democrat and should she choose to run I would strongly consider her.

I believe she would make a solid VP contender as well.

[brush]

87. Progressive? She's bashed Obama on FOX and cozied up to trump when he "won"...

and her name was on the short list for his UN ambassador (Haley got it).

She is an opportunist though. She's good a that.

[Pisces]

89. She has zero chance.

[Dave Starsky]

12. Why is there so much distaste for Tulsi Gabbard?

I'd like to know why. I also see a lot of strident horseshit in this forum leveled against Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez. And that makes absolutely no sense to me. She appears to be a great champion. It makes me question what's behind it.

It seems like there are a lot of shenanigans at work here. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Please tell me, with credible sources, why I should dislike Tulsi Gabbard.

[Lucky Luciano]

17. Residual hatred for anyone who supported Bernie. nt

[Devil Child]

19. Pretty much.

Anyone remotely associated with Sen. Sanders is given similar treatment.

[bottomofthehill]

21. wow, she is planning to run against St Bernie

My bet is she drops the idea once Bernie decides to become a Democrat again.

[Devil Child]

22. I'm sure "St. Bernie" would have no problem with her tossing her hat in the ring.

Derisive nicknames for progressive allies are cute and fun!

[obamanut2012]

41. wrong

[Jim Lane]

98. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, same deal. (n/t)

[Dave Starsky]

31. It looks like that's the feedback I'm getting.

I was a Bernie supporter, too, until he was no longer an official candidate. I switched to Hillary after the primaries, with no misgivings. I would have happily voted for her even if she weren't running against a barely sentient orange ape. So why was this an easy choice for me, and not for so many others? And why do so many other people carry such animosity about it? Or is it, as I suspect, manufactured outrage?

I see no problem with Tulsi Gabbard.

[obamanut2012]

40. wrong

[Dave Starsky]

62. Why are they wrong? Tell me, please. N/t

[George II]

45. No..........how about "residual hatred" (not my word) for anyone who supports Assad?

[mahina]

57. Not at all.

Tulsi Gabbard is not your friend.

But google is.

From her rabid anti-gay core beliefs that she now disavows to her closeness to Assad and Modhi, if you are a progressive she does not hold your values. She has keyed in on a few high visibility keys to your impressions and allows your u to fill in the blanks with your own imagination.

She used Bernie just like she used the Akakas.

We knew this was where she wanted to go since she first ran for city council. It’s not if she’s running for President but when so I really hope people dust off their civic duty and start looking closer, especially to who is supporting her.

[Hekate]

61. Mahalo, Mahina. It's good to have a local home-town perspective. nt

[mahina]

71. Aloha Hekate!

[Me.]

73. Good Post

Cha would be helpful here also.

[Cha]

75. I haven't liked gabbard since

she used to go on fauxnews and bad mouth President Obama. Faux seemed to like what she had to say about him.

[Me.]

91. She Disses PBO But Not Assad

Good judgment...not

[Cha]

92. Excellent point, Me..

Another divisive one with her rhetoric.

[mahina]

95. This.

Who the hell does that?

There’s been our Democratic delegation over here, working for us, and then way over there is Tulsi lobbing eggs.

[Lucky Luciano]

82. I'm not specifically a supporter of hers, but I have seen this pattern before. nt

[Cha]

77. No, gabbard has her own problems..

all by herself.

[rzemanfl]

80. * n/t

[tammywammy]

18. Here's an article from a couple years ago.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/11/tulsi-gabbard-is-not-who-you-think-she-is.html

[Glimmer of Hope]

27. This is a great article that points out why she would be a problematic candidate.

[Dave Starsky]

34. I see really nothing substantive except her pro-Bernie stance.

The rest looks like local innuendo to me.

[George II]

54. "Problematic" is being very kind.

[obamanut2012]

42. Be careful

[George II]

47. Thank you tammy. It had to be said.

[Dave Starsky]

60. That article says nothing substantive.

What are you talking about? Seriously, what is it that YOU are really worried about? This article offers nothing

[George II]

63. Okay.

[Dave Starsky]

36. Your evidence for that is......... .?

Somebody else posted a link to a news source I'd never heard of before. I give them credit for at least trying.

[tenderfoot]

44. She's very popular with the right

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/359986-tulsi-gabbard-is-no-snowflake

[obamanut2012]

43. Be careful

[Baltimike]

46. thank you. this. nt

[George II]

48. Indeed. I sometimes wonder about these "planted" stories.

[George II]

53. Just do a google search on her positions on various National issues.

[Power 2 the People]

55. +1000

[riversedge]

13. no, she would not be my choice for a vote in the Dem primary

[George II]

49. IF I were a republican (no chance in hell!) I'd vote for her in a NY minute.

[Dave Starsky]

66. Why would you?

What makes you feel that way?

Please convince me, as a Democrat who votes in every election, why I shouldn't consider Tulsi Gabbard as a credible candidate for future office. So far, I have had brave responses from people who have associated Ms Gabbard with Bernie Sanders and with Hawaiian politics. I don't have a problem with any of that.

[George II]

67. Better yet, why don't you tell us specifically why you would consider her as a credible candidate.

What has she done that warrants such trust?

That's one of the factors contributing to why I feel the way I do - she simply hasn't shown me any reason to put her ahead of all the qualified prospects we have.

[Dave Starsky]

68. I have no reason to discredit her.

Nor do you.

Let's let her do her thing and see what happens.

[Devil Child]

69. Can't speak for other poster

That's one of the factors contributing to why I feel the way I do - she simply hasn't shown me any reason to put her ahead of all the qualified prospects we have.

I think that is a fair position to take. Should Rep. Gabbard pursue a primary run she will have to work hard to communicate and demonstrate just that. I say this as someone who is sympathetic to her efforts.

[Devil Child]

20. You are correct in your observation

[oberliner]

86. Thank you

[tenderfoot]

26. The only Dems that are okay to bash are the ones you do.

[George II]

64. Bazinga!

[oberliner]

85. Which ones are those?

[Kingofalldems]

88. Got that right.

The fucking gall.

[George II]

50. That's not a very broad interpretation of the comments here.

[Dopers_Greed]

16. Cool, so we're going to have like 30 primary candidates?

What could go wrong.

[Glimmer of Hope]

23. No thank you.

[sarcasmo]

25. No.

[Gothmog]

28. No

[msongs]

29. no thanks nt

[David__77]

30. I like her for the most part.

I think this primary will be pretty interesting! Gabbard speaks with confidence and conviction- I like that. I also like her position on Syria.

[Devil Child]

35. I also support and appreciate her realistic position on Syria

She will add a strong, logical, and rational voice to the primary if she commits to running. Gabbard as VP is intriguing to me as well.

[LiberalFighter]

32. Not interested in her.

She does not have what is needed imo.

[Me.]

33. Delusional

[Dave Starsky]

38. Really? Why?

What is she delusional about? Specifically?

Because I hear this stuff, and it doesn't jibe with what I'm told she actually says.

[Me.]

72. You're Being Disingenuous

People have answered all throughout the thread but apparently, you're not satified, and yet you don't answer why exactly you would support her. I think mahina upthread gave some very good reasons. Now yours...

[Dave Starsky]

83. I am being completely ingenuous!

No one has given me any convincing reason why I should discredit Tulsi Gabbard. I have no other reason to support her other than that I agree with what she professes to speak for, which sounds completely reasonable to me. I have heard no credible argument against what she says, nor any credible argument why I shouldn't trust her for advocating that.

[Me.]

90. Uh Huh

[Eric J in MN]

37. She's probably just preparing in case

...Bernie Sanders doesn’t run.

I think he will.

[billpolonsky]

52. Because Democrats eat their young....

[link:

Link to tweet

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[Eric J in MN]

99. Gabbard apparently called for Franken's resignation

...persuaded by that dubious accusation in the article she linked to.

An anonymous woman thinks Franken wanted a kiss but she ducked and there was no physical contact. She claims he said that it’s his right as an entertainer. He says he never said that. Tulsi Gabbard takes the word of an anonymous accuser over Al Franken’s word.

[mahina]

56. Hard pass.

She ran for city council and bailed for state representative. She ran in a Republican district and replaced a real jerk. Then she bailed from that to be a congressperson.

At least she finished her first term im Congress.

I have no idea why she’s still popular here.

[Cha]

84. I was so disappointed

Sherry didn't do better.

[mahina]

94. Right?

[dlk]

58. Gabbard Would Need Broader Appeal for a Successful Run

Her base is too narrow.

[Cha]

78. Bring on the Vetting Process. she wouldn't

even debate her opponent.

[NBachers]

97. On a very rare basis, I'm surprised because I find myself agreeing with something she says.

Maybe she'll cross the aisle and team up with Susan Collins as her running mate.