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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 10:32 PM Dec 2018

Assange rejects deal between UK, Ecuador for him to leave embassy

Source: The Hill

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on Thursday rejected a deal brokered between Ecuador and the United Kingdom that would allow him to leave the Ecuadorian embassy in London for the first time in six years, the U.K.’s Telegraph reported.

Ecuadorian President Lenín Moreno said Assange can choose to leave the embassy without the risk of being extradited for charges abroad.

"The way has been cleared for Mr Assange to take the decision to leave in near-liberty," Moreno told The Telegraph, without elaborating on what “near liberty” meant.

Assange's lawyer, Barry Pollack, told The Telegraph that the U.K.-Ecuador agreement was not acceptable because it did not protect Assange from being extradited to the United States.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/420183-assange-rejects-deal-between-uk-ecuador-for-him-to-leave-embassy



Two things Assaunge && tRump have in common: a history sexually assaulting women and a reasonable fear of dying in a United States prison.
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Assange rejects deal between UK, Ecuador for him to leave embassy (Original Post) Julian Englis Dec 2018 OP
Can someone please explain why the Ecuadorian Govt cannot just tell a non-equadorian citizen to Pachamama Dec 2018 #1
He is canetoad Dec 2018 #4
Well Ecuador did not think that through too well. nt avebury Dec 2018 #9
They certainly did not canetoad Dec 2018 #10
That is what I want to know! avebury Dec 2018 #6
At some point in this mess he apparently got Ecuadorian citizenship, but that still doesn't mean he RockRaven Dec 2018 #7
Stinky J Ass thinks it is up to him to continue staying in the embassy indefinitely... LOL, nope RockRaven Dec 2018 #2
Yep, this is the hint he should leave DeminPennswoods Dec 2018 #21
They should just kick his ass out onto the street. George II Dec 2018 #3
I'd love to see that. christx30 Dec 2018 #16
No. Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #28
Kick him out, but not the cat rpannier Dec 2018 #17
That would be so damn satisfying to watch Devil Child Dec 2018 #19
Just kick the traitorous A-hole out! djacq Dec 2018 #5
The word 'traitor' has a definition. n/t ronnie624 Dec 2018 #20
Why would he want to leave? Free room and board still_one Dec 2018 #8
What ? The Ecuadorean Embassy doesn't have fire alarms ? Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #11
They should just stop feeding him. Igel Dec 2018 #13
His fans, like Pamela Anderson, would BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #15
He's such a wuss. What does he do all day? Does he work? Tend a garden? What? nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #12
Ya, I am not surprised as it was clear that the only way the UK will agree not to extradite him is cstanleytech Dec 2018 #14
Isn't the reason he's hiding is because of the DeminPennswoods Dec 2018 #23
Sweden decided to end the investigation last year BumRushDaShow Dec 2018 #25
He's gonna leave fingernail scrapes on the door frame The_jackalope Dec 2018 #18
Maybe Ecuador will just find a new embassy location DeminPennswoods Dec 2018 #22
That would work. Scurrilous Dec 2018 #24
Why does Asshat fear the USA now? Cha Dec 2018 #26
So he was born an Australian citizen and at some point became dewsgirl Dec 2018 #27
They should kick him out. Even if he is a citizen of Ecuador it doesn't mean they have to continue Luciferous Dec 2018 #29
Can't Ecuador just fly him to Quito, then cut him loose? JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2018 #30

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
1. Can someone please explain why the Ecuadorian Govt cannot just tell a non-equadorian citizen to
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 10:35 PM
Dec 2018

....leave their embassy?

canetoad

(17,152 posts)
10. They certainly did not
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 10:45 PM
Dec 2018

I thought he had taken Ecuadorian citizenship around the time he went into the embassy but it was much later than that - December 2017. Ecuador should have known better by then.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
6. That is what I want to know!
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 10:38 PM
Dec 2018

All they should have to do is open the door and kick him to the curb. They really did not think this through when they took him in.

RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
7. At some point in this mess he apparently got Ecuadorian citizenship, but that still doesn't mean he
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 10:38 PM
Dec 2018

is entitled to stay there forever.

RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
2. Stinky J Ass thinks it is up to him to continue staying in the embassy indefinitely... LOL, nope
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 10:35 PM
Dec 2018

Ecuador is getting tired of him; it's only a matter of time before they push him out the door.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
16. I'd love to see that.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:20 AM
Dec 2018

They kick him out at a random time. He sprints, sees how far he can get without being picked up. See if he can beg another embassy to take him in, but no one will. Maybe get a friend to pick him up. Might make a good movie. But we’d see him in a US courtroom inside 2 weeks.

Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
28. No.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:59 AM
Dec 2018

The most likely chain of events when/if Assange leaves the embassy is that he'll be immediately arrested by the UK police for skipping bail - that is, if Putin doesn't try to have him picked up in a diplomatic car (which might arguably give him diplomatic immunity) or bumped off (I'm not sure whether Putin's actually that interested in him at this stage) before the police can get to him.

He'd immediately have to answer in court for the bail default (the direct penalties for which might be surprisingly slight after all this time), and at that point we might find out whether there are in fact sealed US indictments waiting for him and the prospect of extradition.

If there are and there were moves for extradition, I'd expect that to be subject to a lengthy and expensive appeals process which could see him in a UK prison for years while it ran its course - I can't see him getting bail again, having skipped it so blatantly and defiantly before.

So you might see him in a US courtroom, but not for quite some time.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
17. Kick him out, but not the cat
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:42 AM
Dec 2018

They should keep the cat as a mascot and as a reminder not to give grifting, egocentric, narcissistic jerks asylum

Igel

(35,300 posts)
13. They should just stop feeding him.
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 10:58 PM
Dec 2018

Or letting others feed him.

In other words, he's protesting, put him on a hunger strike. (Perhaps in retaliation he'd go on a hunger strike.)

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
14. Ya, I am not surprised as it was clear that the only way the UK will agree not to extradite him is
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 11:09 PM
Dec 2018

if its a case where he might face the death penalty which is an unlikely penalty if he was to be extradited to the US unless he was facing a murder charge for example.

DeminPennswoods

(15,284 posts)
23. Isn't the reason he's hiding is because of the
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:12 AM
Dec 2018

potential sexual assault charges that were pending in Sweden? IIRC the statute of limitations recently ran out on those. I think that's when Ecuador started trying to get him to leave.

BumRushDaShow

(128,895 posts)
25. Sweden decided to end the investigation last year
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:17 AM
Dec 2018
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39973864

However the statue of limitations isn't up until 2020 for the latest case (an earlier case had its SOL expire), it seems that at any point before this next SOL, they could resume the investigations. So I expect the hemming and hawing is due to trying to avoid jail in some country (whether England due to a failure to show up in court) or the U.S. or Sweden or anyone else impacted by him.

Luciferous

(6,078 posts)
29. They should kick him out. Even if he is a citizen of Ecuador it doesn't mean they have to continue
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:41 AM
Dec 2018

to feed and house him.

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