Former Miss Kentucky charged with sending nude photos to 15-year-old ex-student

[Julian Englis]

Source: Washington Post

Ramsey Bearse has long been accustomed to appearing before an audience.

She was entranced by the sound of the fiddle as a teenager and soon jumped in with older musicians at bluegrass joints in Kentucky, crafting a stage persona with a trademark instrument.

“I have been known as the ‘Girl with the Green Fiddle’ a lot longer than I’ve been known as Miss Kentucky,” Bearse said in 2014 during the preliminary competitions for Miss America.

But on Friday, Bearse, now a middle school science teacher outside Charleston, W.Va., appeared before an audience of one — a magistrate judge who read four felony counts accusing her of sending nude photos of herself to a 15-year-old former student over Snapchat.

Bearse admitted to sending the photos to the male student after his parents alerted authorities, the Associated Press reported, citing court documents. She had been the student’s teacher for part of his time at Andrew Jackson Middle School, the AP reported.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2018/12/08/former-miss-kentucky-charged-with-sending-nude-photos-year-old-ex-student

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I wonder if the MS affected her thinking and impulse control.

[TreasonousBastard]

1. There's a link on that page that could be more interesting...

"A man watched porn on his dead girlfriend’s phone as she lay on the couch for days, police say"

[jberryhill]

52. She must have had a better data plan

[Laffy Kat]

2. What the hell is wrong with people?

She didn't think this just might come back to haunt her? Not only is it wrong, it's incredibly STUPID.

[oberliner]

3. What do you think would be an appropriate punishment?

[Laffy Kat]

6. At the very least she should have her teaching license suspended or revoked.

Above that, whatever the punishment would be for a male teacher who sent an inappropriate photo to a female student.

[iluvtennis]

10. Ditto

[oberliner]

30. Agreed

Do you think a more severe punishment would be warranted if this had been a current student of hers?. This article says that it was a former student. Also, do you think she should get jail time in addition to having her teaching license suspended or revoked?

[GulfCoast66]

14. Never teach again

No contact with children. Maybe some time in the hoosgaw. Am ambivalent on the sex offender lists due to the lifetime punishment it gives. But 5-10 years no problem.

[oberliner]

31. That seems reasonable

How much time in prison would you say?

[GulfCoast66]

39. 6 months-2 years depending on the victims family opinion.

[oberliner]

46. That sounds about right

[Laffy Kat]

41. I dunnno, oberliner.

Whatever the prosecutor, judge/ jury decide, if any. How much would a male teacher get? That much.

[oberliner]

45. Whatever they decide?

You don' t have any opinion one way or the other? If they decide that no jail time is warranted, you would be fine with that?

[jberryhill]

57. One imagines they would have a better grasp of all relevant facts

[Laffy Kat]

59. Yes, I would, as long as the law is applied equally. nt

[LanternWaste]

64. I can certainly understand your desire to engage (again) in reductio ad absurdum

" If they decide that no jail time is warranted, you would be fine with that?"

I can certainly understand your desire to engage (again) in reductio ad absurdum... as long as you're aware that it reflects on you alone and no one else..

[Power 2 the People]

12. I don't get it either.

[DoctorJoJo]

4. What a Waste When So Many of Us Adults Would Have Appreciated It!

[oberliner]

5. You don't think teenage boys appreciate those sorts of images?

[bitterross]

7. That's hardly the point. If she were a "he" they'd be calling for a hanging.

Also, the young man in question might be a devout Christian who found the images quite offensive. Assuming that all males think the same way and appreciate the same things is a logical fallacy.

[Nitram]

17. Name one male sexual deviant who has been hanged.

[bitterross]

20. Did I say anyone has been hanged? No, I didn't.

The fact you cannot understand a little hyperbole on an opinion site is sad.

[cstanleytech]

25. Actually there have been a number of cases where such people have been murdered.

https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2017/may/5/vigilantes-assault-rob-and-murder-registered-sex-offenders/

[oberliner]

24. The poster above said that many adults would have appreciated the image

I am saying that I think many teenagers would appreciate the image also.

[LongtimeAZDem]

44. Certainly true, and completely irrelevant /nt

[oberliner]

48. Again, it was just in response to that poster's comment

In any case, she definitely seems to have broken the law and ought to be punished accordingly.

[LongtimeAZDem]

49. The original poster made an offhand humorous comment, which you belabored /nt

[oberliner]

51. I tried to make an offhand humorous comment in response

But apparently people took it the wrong way so I have attempted to explain myself to those who responded.

[LongtimeAZDem]

54. As I've said before, your posts always seem to give all benefit of the doubt to the woman,

while dismissing such to the man.

So, when you make a statement that sounds very much like "he probably liked it", regardless of your intent, it come off as though you are mitigating her action.

I'm obviously not the only one who interpreted like that. So, if that's not your intent, then, again, I think you are expressing yourself poorly.

At the very least, perhaps you could take this as a study in how people misinterpret innocent comments.

[LanternWaste]

66. When called on it, I'd pretend I was merely trivializing the incident as well

rather than illustrating my actual sentiments. It's often better that we merely cower behind humor to better allege the criticisms against us are valid.

[bitterross]

21. What a sexist load of shit!

The comment "You don't think teenage boys appreciate those sorts of images?" is an example of how we think of males differently than females. It is sexist in the most obvious way.

The implication from that comment is that since all males are lusty animals, unable to control their physical desires it couldn't possibly be offensive for a woman to send nude pictures to a male. The logic is that all males love to see naked females. That all males want to have sex with the nude female who sends them a pic.

That is wrong. That is sexist. It makes the very case of every woman who describes men as pigs.

[oberliner]

26. Huh?

The assertion I am making is that lots of teenage boys appreciate looking at topless images of attractive females (just like lots of adults do - as the poster to whom I responded suggested).

That this could conceivably be construed as "a sexist load of shit" is bizarre (as are all of the disturbing inferences you drew from such a benign assertion).

[LiberalLovinLug]

63. "The logic is that all males love to see naked females.

That all males want to have sex with the nude female who sends them a pic"

Uh....pretty much. And especially 15 year old boys. I was one too. Obviously talking about hetro males here. Which I'm sure he was, or that is a totally different conversation.

If this were a male teacher and a 15 year old female ex student, it would be just as legally wrong. Both are wrong and she should have known better. But why do we deny that it would be very different for the victim.

These cases are funny to process, because this is a case where it really is quite different FOR THE VICTIM depending on the sexes involved. Something rarely discussed on the MSM. A bunch of factors. Females are the weaker physically gender, and might feel more pressured. They have been also taught through media that males, especially authority figures, are to be obeyed, and looked up to, at least more than males are towards females. Males are taught by their peers to be promiscuous, to be flattered if an attractive female pays you attention. And yes, nudie pics of your hot teacher would not be unwelcome lets just say. At least for 99% of hetro males. It would be a rare bird who would have some kind of serious psychological problems later for seeing these pics, and for being singled out by an attractive older woman for sexual attention.

I just think its one of those odd, unexplored social quandaries. The only negative I see for the male from this kind of experience is getting a bigger ego and developing into a prick that thinks he can grab a .........whenever he wants.

I just feel for the female teacher in these cases. She made a wrong rash, decision in the heat of the moment so to speak. But the sentence seems so harsh compared to the damage done. and while I understand the need to have a punishment for this kind of crime, it just seems abhorrent that she might get a long prison sentence for something that the "victim" is probably bragging to his friends about and getting high fives.

[MineralMan]

40. And why would that matter? The boy is not being charged with anything.

Do you think teenage girls appreciate dick pictures?

I think your question is disturbing, frankly. Adults who send nude photos of themselves to children of whatever age are simply 100% wrong to do so. It doesn't matter what sex the sender or the recipient is. It is just flat wrong.

I was once a 15 year old boy. While I "appreciated" looking at Playboy centerfolds, I would not have appreciated getting a nude photo from a female teacher. I would have found it very weird and disturbing.

Think, oberliner, before writing. That's my advice to you.

[oberliner]

43. The poster wrote: "What a Waste When So Many of Us Adults Would Have Appreciated It!"

I was responding to that by asking if that poster didn't think that any teenage boys would appreciate such images.

[MineralMan]

47. Yes, I know. I saw that. My question and advice remains the same.

Really. The boy is not the issue in any way, nor is his appreciation nor anything else about him.

You wrote what you wrote. You needn't have written anything, but you did.

[oberliner]

50. Huh?

I have no idea what point you are making. There is no comment from me about the boy being an issue in any way.

My assertion is that teenagers and adults are capable of appreciating such images. The comment to which I responded seemed to suggest that only adults were.

Try not to impose things onto comments and posts that aren't actually there.

[LanternWaste]

65. Or the corollary: You don't think teenage 'girls' appreciate those sorts of images?

[Laffy Kat]

11. That poor kid was probably very confused about his feelings.

He should not have had to deal with such a thing.

[bitterross]

23. What a disgusting post.

How can you not see what you just posted is horrible? You just made the statement that ALL men appreciate women sending them nude pics.

That is so wrong on so many levels.

[oberliner]

27. The poster wrote "so many of us adults" not "all men"

You don't think there are many adults who appreciate looking at images of topless attractive women?

[Nitram]

61. Perhaps it was hyperbole?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

38. Your comment elides the power imbalance inherent in these kinds of cases, and reduces them to

funny tropes instead of incidents that can really harm people. Don't be a creep.

[Laffy Kat]

42. This. nt

[ansible]

8. Did teaching standards get lowered recently? Seems to happen a lot now

Where did all these pedo teachers come from?

[LBM20]

36. Whoa! There are MILLIONS of teachers and VERY few who do these things. You need to retract that.

Think about how WRONG your statement is. Indict an entire profession over what is really a VERY small number of such cases in a HUGE country of 320 million people? Should we indict the entire entertainment industry because of a small number of sexual abuse/harassment cases splashed in the media? Should be indict the entire medical profession for the same reason? "Gee, seems like a lot of doctors get in trouble for sexual abuse. What's wrong with that profession? Are standards so low?" See how WRONG an assertion that is?

There are no more sexual abusers in education than in any other field. It's just that in certain professions like education and medicine and entertainment the MEDIA splashes them all over the place because they generate bigger headlines and sell more papers.

You are unfortunately a victim of media sensationalism and your perception has been molded by it. I suggest using more critical thinking.

** Also, just to note, in my state a female teacher last year was accused of having an affair with a student, was fired, charged, put on trial, and ACQUITTED! All evidence pointed to the student having made it all up. The jury quickly acquitted her of ALL charges involved in the case. In some cases not everyone charged with this stuff is actually guilty. **

[Ligyron]

9. With a name like Andrew Jackson Middle school?

Those folks around there might have bigger problems then a little sexting.

[GulfCoast66]

13. Really?

I’m thinking adults sending naked photos to children is a in a different league than an offensive school name.

I can’t believe you posted this.

[Music Man]

18. "A little sexting?"

It's a sex crime involving a minor.

These kind of remarks make us liberals look so cartoonish. "Yeah, she violated a teenager, but Andrew Jackson mistreated Native Americans, so who's the real criminal here?"

[Mosby]

15. I hope she gets some help.

[Nitram]

16. This is relevant to DU how?

[jaysunb]

19. Thank you n/t

[oberliner]

29. News item published by the Washington Post

Seems to have generated a lot of views relative to other stories as well so apparently there is some interest.

[marybourg]

33. Many of us appear to have become addicted

to indignation, and need a frequent fix of subjects to vent at. The RW suffers from this also.

[jberryhill]

55. Two minute hate

[JI7]

28. fucking disgusting

[Mike Nelson]

32. If she knew he was...

… 15-years-old and a former student, she's crazy to do this... I can think of how it could have happened. Maybe he found photos of her on the Internet. Maybe she did nude photos, professionally. She could have sent back a nude favorite with certain areas hidden... still nude, but you could see as much on the beach.

Still, this shows lack of judgement as a teacher... she really needs to be doing something else.

Today, a 15-year-old is going to see all the nude photos he (or she) wants. We see nude pictures of Melania Trump all the time, and she's the First lady of the United States. What I'd look at is the teacher's motivation… is the teacher a predator? Was the sending an invitation for sex? Has the teacher sent pictures to other 15-year-olds?

[LisaL]

53. She reportedly admitted to sending the photos, it's in the OP.

Certainly shows lack of judgement.
Don't think it deserves 20 years in prison.

[Snellius]

34. Moral wars can never reach any truce.

[underpants]

35. Fiddle

[lostnfound]

37. There's a nude bicycle race on the streets of San Francisco every year

String bikinis are just fine at the beach

The minute a kid turns 18 he can legally watch whatever depraved but legal perversions he wants on the Internet

Exceedingly poor judgment and some type of crime, yes, because we have to protect kids somehow
But our society doesn’t do a good job of being consistent or unhypocritical

[aaaaaa5a]

56. As we discuss this just imagine what your reaction would be if the genders were reversed. NT

[CountAllVotes]

58. I wonder if the MS affected her thinking and impulse control.

I have MS and I do not believe that my thinking and impulse control is affected by this crappy illness.

It has taken far more from me that YOU could ever possibly imagine.

Furthermore, I'd never for a second think that MS could cause a woman to act this way.

She's a beauty queen, something I am not either. She likely has a lot of narcissistic ideation, that is what I tend to think.

Perhaps you should try to nail her with some other *rational* reason for her behavior and skip on the MS as being the reason.