Lindsey Graham on Shutdown: If Trump Doesn't 'Break' Dems Now, 'It's Going to Be a Terrible 2019'
Source: Mediaite
Lindsey Graham on Shutdown: If Trump Doesnt Break Democrats Now, Its Going to Be a Terrible 2019
by Josh Feldman | Dec 22nd, 2018, 10:47 am
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Last night, in the hour before the shutdown deadline passed, Graham spoke with Fox News Shannon Bream and said, After the caravan, if you dont see the need for more border security, youre blind.
I think Democrats hate Trump so much they want him to lose, even though it would be good for the country to work with him on border security, he continued. And if he doesnt break em now, its going to be a terrible 2019. So Mr. President, dig in.
Graham praised Trump for being a dealmaker and said Democrats should be working with Trump. If they dont, he added, theyll hear it from the American people in 2020. He also told Bream they shouldnt act like children.
Graham went on to reiterate his problems with Trumps decision to withdraw from Syria, directly appealing to him at one point to reconsider. Bream asked Graham if he would be the next Defense Secretary. Graham immediately said no.
Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/lindsey-graham-on-shutdown-if-trump-doesnt-break-democrats-now-its-going-to-be-a-terrible-2019/
BootinUp
(46,924 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)JudyM
(29,122 posts)DownriverDem
(6,205 posts)The House controls the money. The Dems control the money. I don't like the "break the Dems" work usage.
The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)spot on!
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Nice!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)irisblue
(32,828 posts)Kiss a Frog Lindsey and croak
ChiTownDenny
(747 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,161 posts)All I saw was desperate folks looking for a better life.
Racerdog1
(808 posts)Get off your knees ass kisser. Maybe they should abandon your ass in Afghanistan.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,043 posts)Does Lindsay Graham always like to be so pushy on military matters, he calls himself a Gulf War veteran, when in fact he was in the National Guard for a short time and never got anywhere other than South Carolina?
He is a fake, pure and simple.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,267 posts)and spent a couple of weeks as a reservist in Iraq and Afghanistan - also as a JAG. But he never saw combat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsey_Graham
True Blue American
(17,972 posts)Writing wills for those who went to fight. Lindsey never left the States.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,267 posts)During the 199091 Gulf War, Graham was recalled to active duty, serving as a judge advocate at McEntire Air National Guard Station in Eastover, South Carolina, where he helped brief departing pilots on the laws of war. In 1998, the Capitol Hill daily newspaper The Hill contended that Graham was describing himself on his website as an Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm veteran. Graham responded: "I have not told anybody I'm a combatant. I'm not a war hero, and never said I was. ... If I have lied about my military record, I'm not fit to serve in Congress", further noting that he "never deployed."
In 1998, Graham was promoted to lieutenant colonel. In 2004, he received his promotion to colonel in the U.S. Air Force Reserve at a White House ceremony officiated by President George W. Bush. That year, the Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces held that it was improper for Graham to serve as a military judge while a sitting member of the Senate.
In 2007, Graham served in Iraq as a reservist on active duty for a short period in April and for two weeks in August, where he worked on detainee and rule-of-law issues. He also served in Afghanistan during the August 2009 Senate recess. He was then assigned as a senior instructor for the U.S. Air Force JAG Corps.
True Blue American
(17,972 posts)PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)Johnyawl
(3,205 posts)....you're going to have a terrible 2019 regardless of what happens with the wall.
And an even worse 2020.
Nitram
(22,663 posts)the fact that the Repubs still have a majority both houses? And the fact that all they have to do is defy Trump and they can pass the budget? And the fact that a wall is a complete waste of taxpayer money and the worst possible means of establishing border security? Oh, never mind.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)out of stamping you guys out like an errant, untended campfire in CA.
NO GUILT OR SHAME in re-taking our Country. Damn the torpedos.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 23, 2018, 12:36 PM - Edit history (1)
They embraced the disseminators of hatred and division. They loved it when their propagandists spread outright lies about Democrats. They made a pack with the devil and now the devil owns them lock stock and barrel. They have so empowered them that even the president of our nation must obey their irrational demands. Hell of a situation.
SergeStorms
(18,880 posts)they're the most ignorant people I've ever met. G-U-L-L-I-B-L-E! Anyone who will believe Donald Trump is a stooge.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)It remains to be seen if the MSM will begin to challenge them and awaken the public to the what has been going on since Reagan created this debacle. They seem to be rather soft spoken as they are attacked as spreading False News, when in reality it is FOX and the hundreds of radio stations under the extremists that are actually misleading the citizens.
Maxheader
(4,366 posts)Sure...it can either walk out the door or be bodily thrown out...
Its choice..
MyOwnPeace
(16,887 posts)After the caravan, if you don't see how your pResident lied, you're a fuckin' idiot! (of course, we knew that already............)
EleanorR
(2,374 posts)And the temper tantruming trump said no.
Bengus81
(6,907 posts)So much for some biggggg crisis at the border.
Lock him up.
(6,873 posts)And the rest of the asylum told him they would drop him off the cliff in 2020 (but he's only thinking of keeping their backs when impeachment comes so he won't resign like Nixon).
watoos
(7,142 posts)Who gives a shit about what Lyndsey Graham has to say. I don't watch Fox News and I don't need to see replays from it.
The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)Sure I don't want to hear their bullshit eiether. But if we don't pay attention to them we won't know what they are going to try next.
The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)Graham "I think Democrats hate Trump so much they want him to lose"
Typical republican accusing others of exactly that which they themselves are guilty of. What do I mean? two words: President Obama.
While I can't speak for anyone else I can say wholeheartedly I hate trump with everything that I am. I despise those who give him their support and I consider the same absolute enemies.
When trump loses America wins!
Finally, democrats BETTER NOT work with trump on any fucking thing! We don't yield to traitors! If they do they will definitely hear from the electorate in 2020.
'nuff said!
True Blue American
(17,972 posts)In Congress as much as I despise Trump!
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Wow! Doesn't that sound familiar?
At least our hatred of turdface is not based on his color (orange), but because he is absolutely destroying the foundation of our country, and destroying our standing in the world as a beacon of truth and integrity. You know, what most countries strive for...
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Your fuhrer is going to break the GOP and then the democratic majority that rises will sweep you pig traitors into the dustbin of history!
pecosbob
(7,502 posts)allgood33
(1,584 posts)denvine
(796 posts)Like 2017 and 2018 haven't been terrible years.
Maeve
(42,223 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)His self worth is overblown for a dwarf in stature, intellect and accomplishments. Kick his legislative behind, the enabler and man without a moral compass. imo
Zorro
(15,691 posts)dlk
(11,425 posts)I can't understand why anyone would take ever him seriously. He constantly changes with the political winds.
Canoe52
(2,944 posts)Now youre flopping around like an old dress on a southern belle.
LiberalFighter
(50,477 posts)PatrickforO
(14,514 posts)used immigration to gin up fear in the Republican base. Basically, it is a molehill that has been made into an artificial mountain.
But wait - that's not the best of it. The reason they are such well-funded raving lunatics is because they provide a convenient distraction to the greatest heist in history - the giant tax cut for billionaires and corporations last year which transferred yet more trillions of dollars to the parasitic billionaire and CEO class.
Bankers have created a system of artificial scarcity through the Fed, which is primarily owned by JP Morgan Chase and Citi. It is NOT quasi-governmental - that is a sick joke. If the national debt is money we owe ourselves, then why are we paying it back to bankers with interest?
Wall Street MBA lizards have elevated the concept of shareholder primacy to an exact science that manifests in:
- for workers: unsafe working conditions, union busting, end-of-quarter and end-of-year layoffs just to raise share prices, crappy benefits and stagnant wages.
- for consumers: smaller packages at the same or higher prices, unsafe products, increased recalls, failure to honor warranties and products that are diluted or made poorer quality to increase profits.
- for the environment: the concept of 'externality' allows businesses to foul the environment and, as long as they aren't forced to pay, it is considered an 'externality.' So the earth is raped by capitalism and our entire species, as well as other living creatures, now face an existential crisis.
Billionaire parasites have bought our politicians, primarily the Republicans, have propagandized us to believe in a zero sum game - that if someone wins, then someone else must lose; we must all pull ourselves up by the bootstraps because we're rugged individualists, and only the strongest survive. In short, an Ayn Randian hell. This manifests itself in:
- irresponsible deregulation, which erodes our safety as consumers, our financial security (what little we all have left), and the quality of the environment.
- rampant privatization of things that should be part of the public domain, such as prisons, schools and non-military discretionary programs. And, make no mistake - the Wall Street greed heads have had their eye on the Social Security Trust Fund for decades.
- and gutting social programs through irresponsible tax cuts, coupled with more and more government contracts, primarily for 'defense.'
All these things, including the propaganda that drowns us, serves the sole purpose of transferring more and more of the world's wealth to the few at the expense of the many. Everything - the primacy of the shareholders, Citizens United, lack of a Fairness Doctrine allows this giant greed machine to grind us up a little more each day.
Tired of it yet?
Botany
(70,281 posts)Mexico is gonna pay for the wall.
"They" no longer use the word wall it is now
border security.
C_U_L8R
(44,889 posts)That sure is a disgusting slavery term.
Well fuck you Graham, you malignant racist shitstain.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)We are not going to be broken this time around.
I'm pretty sure the Democrats in Congress have seen that playing nice, nice has gotten us nowhere. They've also seen you cannot make a compromise deal with Trump because he does not believe in compromises. He has to feel HE won.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)This is Trump's version of a deal:
"Give me everything I want, when I want, and I won't destroy you."
"Okay."
Deal concluded.
GeorgeGist
(25,294 posts)has a terrible 2019.
Lucky Luciano
(11,242 posts)Warren_Pointe
(318 posts)Democrats should be the same with the wall.
ACA benefits millions across the country. The Wall would only benefit contractors and trump. The skim from a project of that magnitude is unimaginable. trump could pay off his Russian creditors with graft money before the first inch was built.
djacq
(1,633 posts)I dont believe that my fellow African Americans will be comfortable with that term.
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Grokenstein
(5,707 posts)The end of every paragraph in the post is irony.
adVance democracy
(36 posts)And stay there.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,282 posts)No, wait, that wasn't Democrats.
SergeStorms
(18,880 posts)Like republicans showered Obama with love for eight years. Fuck off, Ms. Lindsay. Come on and "break me". I'll be waiting for your knock on my door, if you don't come down with the vapors first.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,903 posts)
love the "dealmaker" label... great deals he made regarding the Wall and Syria!
RandySF
(57,588 posts)GWC58
(2,678 posts)FOX, after the election, kinda forgot all about, that caravan? Or are you speaking of a Dodge Caravan? 🤪🥴
BigmanPigman
(51,430 posts)FakeNoose
(32,328 posts)Is this your red line in the sand?
samnsara
(17,569 posts).a cave dweller gain.
Butterflylady
(3,523 posts)Sounds to me like he's trying convince himself. That gave me good laugh.
TomCADem
(17,378 posts)nt
raccoon
(31,088 posts)Almost as much as the Dotard.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)and we all know it.
Mc Mike
(9,106 posts)Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)Gosh, Senator, ever heard the phrase, "What goes around, comes around"?