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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 03:56 PM Dec 2018

Portland hotel calls cops on black guest in lobby

Source: The Oregonian


Updated 10:55 AM; Posted 10:53 AM

By Molly Harbarger | The Oregonian/OregonLive mharbarger@oregonian.com
The Oregonian/OregonLive

Jermaine Massey had just seen Travis Scott perform at the Moda Center on Sunday night and returned to his hotel when he saw that his mother had called.

She lives on the East Coast, so he assumed if she called so late, something must be wrong. So he sat down in the lobby of the DoubleTree Hotel in the Lloyd District to take the call before going up to his room.

Massey recounted what came next in a series of Instagram videos that have gone viral. Massey, from Kent, Washington, says in them that he was targeted by a security guard because he is black and that this led to Massey being kicked out of the hotel and having to find a new one near midnight.

It was his first time in Portland.

DoubleTree management released a statement that said the whole incident was a misunderstanding and that the hotel staff does not discriminate against people based on race.



Read more: https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2018/12/portland-hotel-calls-cops-on-black-guest-in-lobby.html

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Portland hotel calls cops on black guest in lobby (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2018 OP
I am sickened by what this country has become UpInArms Dec 2018 #1
Portland has always been this way. violetpastille Dec 2018 #3
The ugly history. OPB, Oregon Public Broadcasting 'Local Color' appalachiablue Dec 2018 #11
Did cellphones capture any of this? Or just the victims social media statements after? nt MadDAsHell Dec 2018 #19
They don't want any Californians CountAllVotes Dec 2018 #39
I'm already here. violetpastille Dec 2018 #43
I'm staying where I am at CountAllVotes Dec 2018 #44
shit, you read the comments section too? 0rganism Dec 2018 #7
Oh ... I had not ... and then, after your post, I did UpInArms Dec 2018 #8
Yep, the US has always been full of bigots and racists. The US spreads the propaganda about RKP5637 Dec 2018 #12
Yep. And it's not just the south... paleotn Dec 2018 #22
I found it is not North or South, but what part of each you have lived. Cold War Spook Dec 2018 #30
Jones. Ugh! paleotn Dec 2018 #42
which area of South Carolina was that you lived in? flyingfysh Dec 2018 #33
Pee Dee region close to Florence paleotn Dec 2018 #40
I once lived near Greenville, and later in southern SC flyingfysh Dec 2018 #41
That comment section is always like that. Kittycow Dec 2018 #24
Your post caused me to look... srobertss Dec 2018 #37
+1 demigoddess Dec 2018 #28
Our country has always been this way. It's built on white superiority. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2018 #29
Came of age in the 70s UpInArms Dec 2018 #31
I hope Earl gets fired ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #2
yikes Schmice3 Dec 2018 #4
Correct. Keep posting. mahannah Dec 2018 #9
Welcome to DU, Schmice3 UpInArms Dec 2018 #32
Welcome to the Democratic Underground Schmice3 CountAllVotes Dec 2018 #45
not even a refund? KT2000 Dec 2018 #5
State of Orgeon Civil Rights Division and US Civil Rights Divisions irisblue Dec 2018 #6
Is that snark? n/t getagrip_already Dec 2018 #15
Not at all. And the comment section is abysmal. irisblue Dec 2018 #23
Any comments about this on Yelp? nt. Akacia Dec 2018 #10
There are chairs in the lobby TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #13
Why not check the freaking hotel registry rather than ask him the room number? Hell I doubt I could cstanleytech Dec 2018 #14
There were so many points at which other actions could spooky3 Dec 2018 #27
But they did. rockfordfile Dec 2018 #16
Every time a white person calls the cops on a black person who's minding their own business... MrScorpio Dec 2018 #17
Why "attempt?". Why not just murder and let's give them life? nt MadDAsHell Dec 2018 #18
Because the cops don't always follow through MrScorpio Dec 2018 #20
What a lame excuse from the mgt for discriminating against onetexan Dec 2018 #21
Portland...ugh! paleotn Dec 2018 #25
"the hotel staff does not discriminate against people based on race. " luvtheGWN Dec 2018 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Dec 2018 #35
"the hotel staff does not discriminate against people based on race. " rpannier Dec 2018 #36
Sadly, there are a lot of racists in Oregon. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2018 #34
Interesting read on Oregon history whistler162 Dec 2018 #38
Hilton couldn't pay me to stay in one of their hotels. dickthegrouch Dec 2018 #46
So his hotel key, card key was not GOOD enough proof?? ROB-ROX Dec 2018 #47
I went to college for one year in Salem, Oregon. '68-'69 panader0 Dec 2018 #48

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
39. They don't want any Californians
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 11:38 AM
Dec 2018

They drive us off the roads when they have they chance.

They claim that Californians are stealing their housing.

They really don't like Californians a whole lot it seems.

Why move to a place you are clearly not welcome to?



violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
43. I'm already here.
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 12:49 PM
Dec 2018

There are more of us every year. We can hang out with each other.

I moved because there is water here. The fires will get worse each year. When I last lived in California the water was so hard it stained the shower fixtures with a white deposit and my hair was breaking. It smelled of chemicals.

I pay no state tax in Washington (just across the river from Portland) and no sales tax in Washington.

Housing compared to California is ridiculous. What would cost a cool million is a quarter that in Camas, Washington.

The Californians I know moved for the schools. But don't move for that reason. The lack of diversity will drive your kids crazy and honestly, the teachers in California are smarter and more passionate.

As soon as you move up here you change your plates. That's true.
And will it surprise you there is no Mexican food? None.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
44. I'm staying where I am at
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 01:24 PM
Dec 2018

We have all the water we need here. Even during the worst of the drought years our reservoirs were full.

I'm not anywhere near so. California had you not guessed.



0rganism

(23,933 posts)
7. shit, you read the comments section too?
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 04:37 PM
Dec 2018

i'm pretty sure the country we idealized never actually existed. it's full of racist white people desperately afraid of losing their privilege, and willing to excuse all manner of excesses in the maintenance thereof.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
8. Oh ... I had not ... and then, after your post, I did
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 04:58 PM
Dec 2018

and, now .... am even more disheartened

☹️

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
12. Yep, the US has always been full of bigots and racists. The US spreads the propaganda about
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 05:42 PM
Dec 2018

being so non-racist and non-bigoted. About a third of the US is nothing but hatred.

paleotn

(17,902 posts)
22. Yep. And it's not just the south...
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 06:40 PM
Dec 2018

Though the proportions are higher down there. Having grown up in TN, I knew it existed, but I rarely saw anything terribly overt. Being a white kid in a middle class neighborhood, with fairly progressive, Democratic parents might account for that. Friends have told me stories of the side I've never saw, or never chose to see, that still make me sick to this day.

It really slapped me in the face when I spent 2 years in SC. Bought a nice, average house in a nice, average, middle class neighborhood. Chatted with the neighbors, etc. Until one day, one of said neighbors came by while I was working in the garage. I guess to gauge my level of racism as we were "outsiders". I can't explain the rather uncomfortable conversation any other way. In the middle of small talk he said one of the most vile, racists statements I've ever heard in my life. I was shocked and the expression on my face let him know that such garbage wasn't welcome at my house, before I could even form the words. Turns out the town, though seemingly integrated on the outside, it was one of the most racist places I've ever been in my life. Luckily, we moved after a short time. Spent 10 years in equally Rethuglican western NC, where religion seems to be the wellspring of their hate. Thank God for the Asheville / Boone bubbles. They kept us sane in those days.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
30. I found it is not North or South, but what part of each you have lived.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 08:29 PM
Dec 2018

I grew up in Roxbury, a part of Boston in the 40s and 50s. About even between Jewish and Black with 3 families both, Ethiopians. Looking back I can't believe I was so naive. I went to the William Lloyd Garrison elementary school and didn't even know that half of my friends were Negroes. They just had darker skin than me. Then we moved to a small town, mostly Catholic, were they hated Jews and Negroes equally. Negroes, a term that was used back then but not by us because I wouldn't know what a Negro was. No problem in the army or at U of MA. No problem in San Fransisco in the 70s living in the Mission District until a gay man was stabbed to death outside my bedroom window, so I moved to the Castro District and even though I am straight, of course I did not have a problem. Moved to Margate FL to take care of my aunts. Many people in my condo complex had aides, mostly Black. I did receive a phone call from one Jewish woman who complained the the Black aides were talking on the catwalks and that they should be made to stay inside. Only problem I could see. Next moved to a small town near Jacksonville NC. White, Brown, Black, Christian, Jew and Muslim. 20 years so far and never heard of or had a problem. On another post the other day I said they even tolerate Democrats. I had not put where I live so someone didn't understand what I meant until I posted my area. Republican Rep. Jones could be dead and still be getting elected.

paleotn

(17,902 posts)
42. Jones. Ugh!
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 12:47 PM
Dec 2018

Same in the 11th with Meadows. He's beyond awful and yet they keep reelecting him. Poor mountain people screwing themselves.

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
33. which area of South Carolina was that you lived in?
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 12:19 AM
Dec 2018

I lived in South Carolina for several years, and my sister is a teacher there.

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
41. I once lived near Greenville, and later in southern SC
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 12:18 PM
Dec 2018

Near Varnville, kind of close to Savannah. I was in grade school then in the 50s. Not that close to where you were.

One thing I remember about the area is that the black people tended to live in very rundown-looking shacks next to the railroad track. I used Google street view recently to look at the area again, and the shacks seem to be gone now.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
24. That comment section is always like that.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 06:44 PM
Dec 2018

When the Oregonian went online a long time ago, the comment section was reasonable but the gross, hateful people drove everybody out except for a few brave souls.

At least Kate Brown ( liberal) got elected as governor plus JoAnn Hardesty ( longtime Black activist and police critc)to City Council so haha.

srobertss

(261 posts)
37. Your post caused me to look...
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 03:07 AM
Dec 2018

And before I knew it I’d entered the fray...

Me: Funny how people try to control this type of situation after the fact by detailing how a person should have behaved to avoid it. I’d like to see how they might feel as part of a targeted group, when you never know whether you’re viewing the tip of an iceberg or just a shard of ice. Let’s see how politely you would behave when your phone call to your mother is interrupted by someone in a uniform, after being viewed with suspicion by strangers your entire life.

My mother always said she never knew whether someone was mistreating her because they didn’t like Armenians or because they just didn’t like her. And that was years after she was living in an area where Armenians were discriminated against. Most people didn’t even know who Armenians were, let alone that she was one. You never forget discrimination. « less

“Rural Woman” replies to me: Behaving in an aggressive, uncivilized manner to a person doing a job, is most likely not going to end well. We need to be big enough to require all people behave in a civilized manner and EXPECT There will be consequences for any who doesn't!!

My Reply to @Rural Woman: Sometimes It's better for your soul to respond to injustice with resistance. It's possible this guy misinterpreted, but that's the thing about discrimination. You never know if you're facing an iceberg or a shard of ice.

Vitaprime replies to me: How do you know he's been behaved with suspicion his entire life?

My reply to @Vitaprime: Because I have been fortunate to have worked over 30 years with people of color in Oregon. And I've heard their stories, told casually to each other, minus anger or the need to prove the reality of their experiences, but just with eyes open to the reality

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
31. Came of age in the 70s
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 08:51 PM
Dec 2018

It was different.... thought it would only get better

Raygun made certain that we went backward

irisblue

(32,954 posts)
6. State of Orgeon Civil Rights Division and US Civil Rights Divisions
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 04:23 PM
Dec 2018

Last edited Tue Dec 25, 2018, 08:29 PM - Edit history (1)

File suits.

::edited to ad- I first put EEOC=equal employment oppurtunity commission.
I filed with them b/c of a work accessibility complaint I was having. I used tbe wrong division. It should have been with the Civil Rights Divisipn of the DOJ. My error.

irisblue

(32,954 posts)
23. Not at all. And the comment section is abysmal.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 06:40 PM
Dec 2018

Source FED>>https://civilrights.findlaw.com/civil-rights-overview/public-accommodations-equal-rights.html

"Public Accommodations and Equal Rights
accommodation is a place that offers goods and services to the general public such as a restaurant that is open to the public. Federal and state laws protect designated groups from discrimination in places of public accommodations, based on the premise that everyone is entitled to enjoy the goods and services of the public accommodation on an equal basis. There are two types of entities that are classified as public accommodations: government owned/operated entities and privately-owned/operated businesses and services.

Examples of government-owned/operated entities include:

Courthouses
Libraries
Post offices
Benefit programs (i.e., welfare services)
Examples of privately owned/operated entities include:

Restaurants
Hotels
Theaters
Transportation services."



Feds got a lot to say about actions like that.

Oregon
Source>>https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/659A.403

2017 ORS 659A.403¹
"Discrimination in place of public accommodation prohibited" and there is a lot more then I'm willing to c&p..


That man needs to file complaints with both agencies. Several people at both Fed &State will know the laws& statutes.


May I know why you thought it was snark?

TexasBushwhacker

(20,163 posts)
13. There are chairs in the lobby
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 05:48 PM
Dec 2018

I assume that guests are supposed to be able to sit in them. WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK???!!!

cstanleytech

(26,276 posts)
14. Why not check the freaking hotel registry rather than ask him the room number? Hell I doubt I could
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 05:54 PM
Dec 2018

remember the number of a hotel room I was in and would likely rely on asking the front desk to remind me.

spooky3

(34,425 posts)
27. There were so many points at which other actions could
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 07:15 PM
Dec 2018

have been taken to have stopped this. When the police asked if he had items in his room and he said “yes” that should have clued them in that he was a registered guest too.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
17. Every time a white person calls the cops on a black person who's minding their own business...
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 06:22 PM
Dec 2018

It should be considered a tacit attempt to murder that black person by proxy.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
20. Because the cops don't always follow through
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 06:32 PM
Dec 2018

Sometimes they end up being professionals who immediately understand that they were called in on some white racist nonsense.

onetexan

(13,033 posts)
21. What a lame excuse from the mgt for discriminating against
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 06:33 PM
Dec 2018

A guest. This was by no means a misunderstanding.I am done w doubletree & hilton. Time to boycott them for this injustice.

paleotn

(17,902 posts)
25. Portland...ugh!
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 06:45 PM
Dec 2018

Thanks to the responses above who filled me in on the back story. I always thought you had to go to the eastern part of Oregon to find racist scum. Apparently, the state has a history that would only make Mississippi proud.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
26. "the hotel staff does not discriminate against people based on race. "
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 06:50 PM
Dec 2018

Well, obviously some do.

So disgusting. A good reason to personally boycott Doubletree.

Response to luvtheGWN (Reply #26)

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
36. "the hotel staff does not discriminate against people based on race. "
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 01:17 AM
Dec 2018

A meaningless statement
Like anyone would expect someone or some organization to state publicly, "We often discriminate against people on the basis of race."

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
38. Interesting read on Oregon history
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 06:28 AM
Dec 2018
https://oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/exclusion_laws/

"Oregon's racial makeup has been shaped by three black exclusion laws that were in place during much of the region's early history. These laws, all later rescinded, largely succeeded in their aim of discouraging free blacks from settling in Oregon early on, ensuring that Oregon would develop as primarily white."

dickthegrouch

(3,172 posts)
46. Hilton couldn't pay me to stay in one of their hotels.
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 03:21 PM
Dec 2018

I had three consecutive terrible experiences in hilton hotels in San Diego, Bogota, and Washington DC, and will never stay in another one.
Intercontinental (IHG) has been my staple ever since (worldwide).

ROB-ROX

(767 posts)
47. So his hotel key, card key was not GOOD enough proof??
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 03:49 PM
Dec 2018

Why did they not take him to his room?? I would think he can SUE for HARASSMENT. Get the people fired who did not "respond" correctly. The customer is always right. When those who are mistreated become millionaires then the dullards who are fired will know better...

panader0

(25,816 posts)
48. I went to college for one year in Salem, Oregon. '68-'69
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 04:21 PM
Dec 2018

My roommate was black. He and I became fast friends, double-dating,
etc. While walking together downtown, more than once someone yelled n****r lover
at me from a passing car. I would look at my friend and saw in his face
things I hadn't known before.
Then I found out that Salem had a history of racism.

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