The Dow just staged a nearly 900-point turnaround in frenetic Thursday action
Source: Market Watch
By
Mark
DeCambre
The Dow Jones Industrial Average booked a dramatic reversal, ending higher after trading sharply lower on the session Thursday. The Dow DJIA, +1.14% closed 1.1%, or 258 points, at 23,136, on a preliminary basis, after being down by as many as 611 points, or 2.7%, at session lows. The day's trade follows a historic surge for the Dow that saw it rally by more than 1,000 points, marking the largest single-session point gain in history. The S&P 500 index SPX, +0.86% also turned positive on the day, ending up 0.9% at 2,488. The Nasdaq Composite Index COMP, +0.38% eked out a modest gain, rising 0.4% to finish at 6,579, based on the preliminary closing levels. The swings occurred within the final hour of trading in a see-saw day. On Wednesday, the Dow ended with a gain of 1,086.25 points, or 5%, at 22,878.45. The S&P 500 soared 5% to end at 2,467.70. The Nasdaq rose 5.8% to 6,554.36.
Read more: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-dow-is-staging-a-600-point-turnaround-in-frenetic-intraday-action-thursday-2018-12-27
I happened to be sitting at my laptop watching this for the last half hour. Haven't had this much fun in a long time watching the last hour of trading!
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)PeeJ52
(1,588 posts)I'm so glad Reagan talked us all into giving up our union pensions for the "ownership" society and 401Ks where companies matched dollar per dollar when they first came out and most companies don't even match at all any more. At least we own them now and the owners of the stock markets get to skim off their share of are money by manipulating the prices while giving us our 5% which we used to get on our savings accounts in banks... Boy, they sure got over on us with this "ownership" society crap. I wonder if people will every wise up and unionize again before it's totally outlawed.
0rganism
(23,943 posts)i don't think "our fundamentals are sound" anymore
IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)some of it is year end balancing for tax purposes, where investors want their gains or losses to be recorded for 2018. But it's not driven by company earnings at this point. Best to ignore the daily ups and downs because they are going to be pretty nasty for a while.
Companies were using their Trump tax cuts for buybacks last year, which boosted prices artificially. Many of those wealthy investors have cashed out when prices were high and stuck their money in less risky investments.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Greed and fear will always play a role.
0rganism
(23,943 posts)"cash out when prices (are relatively) high and (stick our) money in less risky investments", so to speak
later, when any bubbles pop and slow steady growth resumes, buy back in until the next tariff-slinging Republican whackjob takes over.
paleotn
(17,911 posts)Sorry, that made me chuckle. ..... As the saying goes, keep you head on a swivel. Apt advice these days I think ... in a number of ways.
LiberalFighter
(50,888 posts)IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)whatever happens will be irrational and not worth worrying about. Volatility is the new normal
JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)Just dump a few of his hundreds of billions in the markets during the last 1/2 hour of trading and you have a Putin Bounce!
C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)of musical chairs
elmac
(4,642 posts)trillion dollar companies, trillion dollar companies!!!
paleotn
(17,911 posts)Who's nutty enough to go long in this market? I get the feeling there's state sponsored manipulation going on.
mnhtnbb
(31,382 posts)paleotn
(17,911 posts)for obvious reasons, until long after he's made his play. Depending on what he picked up, he probably should have bought on Monday. With a global slowdown showing signs of strengthening, compounded with an escalating trade war, this smells like a bear bounce. I know trading is thin between the holidays, but it still take a hell of a lot of buying to move the market that much.
ffr
(22,669 posts)when it crashed.
MsLeopard
(1,265 posts)It was a precursor to the Great Crash of 1929, then the Great Depression. Violent market swings during this stage of the game mean another drastic downturn is about to happen. The PPT will try their best to stave it off, but they will fail. History repeats itself.
LakeSuperiorView
(1,533 posts)Trumpty Dumpty can't brag on his policies being good for the market any more, negative 6.4%, with little chance of breaking even in the few hours of trading left this year. Typical response to Republican policies.
bluestarone
(16,906 posts)I really believe this is a FALSE market!! Manipulated like our election was!!!! NO PROOF BUT i really believe this!!
guruoo
(5,092 posts)Turbineguy
(37,319 posts)it's an end-of-year pension funds repositioning. Selling bonds, buying stock in order to meet the allocation percentages after the December plunge.
mnhtnbb
(31,382 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)all controlled by computerized share trade software.
The little guy has no chance, other than luck. And luck works both ways, which is why the big money (who don't NEED luck) always ends up with even more, and the little guy, more often than not, loses ....
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Buy in the morning DUMP in the afternoon or vice versa. They make bank while others have to set for a couple of days and wait for theirs to clear and by then the stock has tanked.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)Programmed trading is a factor in the violent swings. More so is the essential uncertainty surrounding Trump and all those around him.
There are people who make money by selling. Others who make money, or hope to make money buying.
The essential thing to keep in mind is that in the long run the market goes up. This is the first down year since (I hope I've got it right) 2008. Basically the market has been long overdue for a correction. But with all the hand-wringing and cries of doom and gloom here, the market is still up since Trump was elected.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Cramer was talking (a decade or so ago) about small premarket/futures moves in a single stock (and I think it was 15-20 million).
Thats not manipulating multi-trillion dollar markets over weeks.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)But the point that it's not multi-trillion dollar markets over weeks is absolutely correct.
KayF
(1,345 posts)it would be a much bigger rush for people's basic income to be totally dependent on the market!