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brooklynite

(94,384 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:15 PM Dec 2018

Dems' New Year's resolution: Stiff Trump on the wall and reopen the government

Source: Politico

House Democrats — increasingly convinced they’re winning the shutdown fight with President Donald Trump — are plotting ways to reopen the government while denying the president even a penny more for his border wall when they take power Jan. 3.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and her top lieutenants are considering several options that would refuse Trump the $5 billion he’s demanded for the wall and send hundreds of thousands of furloughed federal employees back to work, according to senior Democratic sources.

While the strategy is fluid, House Democrats hope to pass a funding bill shortly after members are sworn in. They believe that would put pressure on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to follow suit. And they’re confident that their political leverage will only increase the longer the shutdown lasts — a notion that some GOP leaders privately agree with.

Indeed, the specter of a lengthy shutdown could hurt Trump’s already damaged image more than it would Democrats — especially because he claimed ownership of the crisis two weeks ago. Democrats believe the shutdown battle — combined with the volatility in financial markets and special counsel Robert Mueller closing in on Trump — exacerbates the appearance of a cornered president acting out of his own political self-interest instead of the needs of the American public.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/27/democrats-government-shutdown-2018-1076466

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Dems' New Year's resolution: Stiff Trump on the wall and reopen the government (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2018 OP
Tell Trump....to tear down his Mexican Wall slingsam Dec 2018 #1
... brooklynite Dec 2018 #2
yup! that's what I'm talking 'bout slingsam Dec 2018 #3
K & R SunSeeker Dec 2018 #4
He's weak. truthisfreedom Dec 2018 #5
Pass the same exact bill that passed the Senate unanimously watoos Dec 2018 #6
That would only keep the government open until Feb 8 onenote Dec 2018 #7
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
6. Pass the same exact bill that passed the Senate unanimously
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 08:59 AM
Dec 2018

by voice vote. The pressure will be on Republican Senators if they fail to pass it a second time. If it passes the Senate and Trump vetoes it, the pressure will be on him and enough Republican Congressmen to override the veto.

I mean c'mon people, "Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity." General George Patton. The freaking emperor has no clothes on, let's not pretend otherwise.

onenote

(42,610 posts)
7. That would only keep the government open until Feb 8
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 11:44 AM
Dec 2018

And trump won’t veto it. Instead he would sign while declaring that by doing so he doesn’t want the government to be shutdown sand is willing to give the Democrats more time to work with him on a solution but at the same time he’ll assert that this is a one time event and that he won’t sign another extension or funding bill if he doesn’t get what he wants.

I think the better strategy is to pass two bills in the House: a funding bill for the entire year without any border security money and a separate bill with the $1.3 billion in border security funds the Democrats have previously offered. Let McConnell decide if he is willing to take the heat for blocking one or both of those bills and if he doesn’t test whether Trump is crazy enough to veto either or both

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