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brooklynite

(94,493 posts)
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:33 PM Feb 2019

Trump teases national emergency declaration could come during SOTU

Source: Roll Call

President Donald Trump on Friday said there is a “a good chance” he will declare a national emergency at the southern border to unlock Defense Department dollars for a wall, and signaled he may announce it during his State of the Union address Tuesday.

“I think there’s a good chance we’ll have to do that,” Trump said of a coming emergency declaration, which Democrats and pro-immigration groups have said would be met with an immediate legal challenge.

“We will be looking at a national emergency because I don't think anything is going to happen,” Trump said of the House-Senate panel’s negotiations.

...snip...

“You’ll hear the State of the Union and let’s see what happens,” Trump told reporters during an event about human trafficking across the U.S.-Mexico border. A national emergency declaration, he claimed, “does help the process.”

Read more: http://www.rollcall.com/news/whitehouse/trump-signals-national-emergency-answers-could-come-during-sotu-address

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Trump teases national emergency declaration could come during SOTU (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2019 OP
A planned emergency is no emergency. nt Qutzupalotl Feb 2019 #1
Thank you! oldsoftie Feb 2019 #4
This Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #5
Precisely correct! NurseJackie Feb 2019 #12
If he does, will it be one bridge too far? This would be gross abuse of power. olegramps Feb 2019 #16
Nope, the rethugs will just wait for the courts to block him raiding the DOD's coffers. Texin Feb 2019 #31
Exactly. What MI governor Gretchen Whitmer did on Wednesday muntrv Feb 2019 #51
And hopefully durablend Feb 2019 #2
Or a padded van with men in white coats. eom Control-Z Feb 2019 #7
Stay tuned!!! robbob Feb 2019 #3
Is there not some criteria that has to be met before an emergency can be declared??? patricia92243 Feb 2019 #6
he can say whatever he likes.. I mean, taht si what eh mDOES.. pangaia Feb 2019 #39
What a dope! BlueJac Feb 2019 #8
You don't actually need a fire to react to the reichstad fire. Tiggeroshii Feb 2019 #9
That's why he's sabotaging the panel dalton99a Feb 2019 #10
And his party will stand and whoop and hollar in joyous celebration n/t hibbing Feb 2019 #11
Then Trump will deliver the first negative SOTU in American history TeamPooka Feb 2019 #13
If the Democrats in attendance BillyBobBrilliant Feb 2019 #14
What they need to do is act like Members of Parliament and all stand up and boo thim Texin Feb 2019 #32
IIRC relayerbob Feb 2019 #34
They could all throw their shows at him.. en mass.. pangaia Feb 2019 #40
There is really no on and no thing going to stop this guy ... nothing NotHardly Feb 2019 #15
Yes there is DownriverDem Feb 2019 #18
Based on your response, it is as I said, no one. NotHardly Feb 2019 #21
Get ready donnie DownriverDem Feb 2019 #17
Exactly. To anybody who believes complaint(s) for said lawsuits aren't already written, then Still In Wisconsin Feb 2019 #22
Acting presidential is not in him, not even one tiny iota of a shred. lark Feb 2019 #49
Stay tuned for the next Democrat in office to declare one for a tax hike on corporations and cstanleytech Feb 2019 #19
If he does announce this at the SOTU packman Feb 2019 #20
Attention seeking murielm99 Feb 2019 #23
"Teasing" and "Emergency" should never be used in the same sentence when it comes to Mrs. Overall Feb 2019 #24
Emergency? I'd love to see Trump arrested at the SOTU and frog marched out of the chamber. jalan48 Feb 2019 #25
FBI raid would be sweet durablend Feb 2019 #28
The networks would love it. Great for prime time ratings! jalan48 Feb 2019 #29
OMG! I was planning on prepping for a colonoscopy at that time, but now mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2019 #26
... and the following day, he'll say he was misquoted. NT mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2019 #27
Oh, fuck you, you piece of shit thegoose Feb 2019 #30
There should be a previously agreed upon line for the Democrats in attendance. Runningdawg Feb 2019 #33
if that happens, there should be a MASSIVE chorus of boos Takket Feb 2019 #35
The night that prick gives his speech is going to be movie night for me. nt yaesu Feb 2019 #36
Can everyone please stop falling for this guy's bluffs? WhoWoodaKnew Feb 2019 #37
He still thinks he's in a f*cking reality show. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2019 #38
A national emergency that is in no hurry to fix keithbvadu2 Feb 2019 #41
Madame Speaker: Please disinvite the motherfucker! ananda Feb 2019 #42
If he announces it during SOTU... RobertDevereaux Feb 2019 #43
He's been shrieking about a *national emergency* since before the midterms. Texin Feb 2019 #44
"So you BETTER WATCH!!!! LOOOOOOK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!" hatrack Feb 2019 #45
Do it, Donald! Stop your idle threats. keithbvadu2 Feb 2019 #46
Pfft!! He's trying to pump up TV ratings. Fuck him! DippyDem Feb 2019 #47
Instead of SOTU he should STFU Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #48
Didn't sound like a ''tease'' to me. Unless he's fishing for good ratings. Yeah, probably so. YOHABLO Feb 2019 #50
That could trigger Impeachment emergency! at140 Feb 2019 #52
Hasn't anyone told this fool that the Congress has to vote... brush Feb 2019 #53

Texin

(2,594 posts)
31. Nope, the rethugs will just wait for the courts to block him raiding the DOD's coffers.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 04:05 PM
Feb 2019

I think another shutdown might do it though.

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
51. Exactly. What MI governor Gretchen Whitmer did on Wednesday
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 08:15 PM
Feb 2019

was an emergency when she declared a state of emergency.

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
8. What a dope!
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:47 PM
Feb 2019

He said they had till 2-15, he will look more foolish if he does this grand stand at the SOTU! I hope he tries it in front of the nation!

TeamPooka

(24,220 posts)
13. Then Trump will deliver the first negative SOTU in American history
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:55 PM
Feb 2019

How can you say the state of the union is strong when you declare an emergency?
Can't.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
32. What they need to do is act like Members of Parliament and all stand up and boo thim
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 04:08 PM
Feb 2019

until he's forced to leave. Or Moscow Mitch has the Sergeant of Arms to have the Dems arrested. What grand spectacle that'd be.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
34. IIRC
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 04:48 PM
Feb 2019

This is done in the House, and that McConnell isn't in charge of their Sgt At Arms. I could be way wrong though. O course, I agree with your sentiment, Turtle would do that

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
17. Get ready donnie
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:01 PM
Feb 2019

If you do it during the speech, in the morning lawsuits will be filed. No wall will be built during litigation. Why is trump such an embarrassment? He has yet to act presidential.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
22. Exactly. To anybody who believes complaint(s) for said lawsuits aren't already written, then
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:17 PM
Feb 2019

I've got a bridge -er- wall to sell you.

lark

(23,091 posts)
49. Acting presidential is not in him, not even one tiny iota of a shred.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:17 AM
Feb 2019

What he has in him is greed, hate, scorn, ignorance, stupidity, criminality, misogyny, racism, lies, and purience. There is no love or caring for anyone or anything except where it profits or protects him and that's just on a transactional basis, nothing long term. Right now he idolizes PUtin as a successful wildly rich dictator and is probably scared of all the dirt PUtin has on him, which is a ton. Is he so stupid he thinks PUtin won't turn on him with no 2nd thoughts if he doesn't do EXACTLY as told? He doesn't seem to chafe under PUtin's orders, so it seems like he feels no threat, just love, from Pootie. I guess that just proves there is no end to either his bloated ego or his abject stupidity. PUtin will absolutely take him down, but not until America is destroyed economically and politicially, if things go as he wishes.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
19. Stay tuned for the next Democrat in office to declare one for a tax hike on corporations and
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:09 PM
Feb 2019

the wealthy followed by a national emergency over healthcare thus the need to expand medicare to everyone.

Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
24. "Teasing" and "Emergency" should never be used in the same sentence when it comes to
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:22 PM
Feb 2019

government business.

He is such a sick a-hole.

jalan48

(13,856 posts)
25. Emergency? I'd love to see Trump arrested at the SOTU and frog marched out of the chamber.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:36 PM
Feb 2019

That, would be responding to an emergency.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,391 posts)
26. OMG! I was planning on prepping for a colonoscopy at that time, but now
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:36 PM
Feb 2019

I'll have to change my plans and watch.

Whew. That was close.

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
30. Oh, fuck you, you piece of shit
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:48 PM
Feb 2019

So sick of my country being held hostage by this two-bit idiot criminal.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
33. There should be a previously agreed upon line for the Democrats in attendance.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 04:33 PM
Feb 2019

When (not if) he crosses it, they get up and walk out en masse.

Takket

(21,555 posts)
35. if that happens, there should be a MASSIVE chorus of boos
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 04:52 PM
Feb 2019

followed by the Dems walking out, and i would hope everyone else offended walks out too.
scotus, people in the gallery, etc.............

38. He still thinks he's in a f*cking reality show.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 05:09 PM
Feb 2019

Real presidents don't tease national emergencies.

Lets look at the definition of emergency: a serious, unexpected, and often dangerous situation requiring immediate action.

He had control of both houses of Congress (and yes, he was in control -- with the exception of McCain, Collins and Murcowski, not a single Republican would challenge his insane ideas) under the exact same conditions at the border, and the exact same promise he had made to the base, and all of a sudden it's an emergency? Bullshit. All he's trying to do is demonstrate his dominance in the new political order of things. What he doesn't recognize is the Founding Fathers foresaw such a power grab, and organized the government into three co-equal branches of government, any two of which could provide a check against the third. Despite having Moscow Mitch in his pocket, the House is where appropriations begin, so that's one check. Claiming an emergency exists where there is on unexpected circumstance can be reviewed by the courts, and absent the fact that there are now five conservative justices -- two of which are Trump loyalists -- the judiciary should provide the second check.

Of course, even if he is stopped by Congress and the courts, he will still say he won, because that's what he does, and as we all know, he's the ultimate victim, as are his followers.

My bet is on his making the declaration at the SOTU. Let's hope Stacey Abrams' post-SOTU response includes announcing that in the few minutes between Trump's declaration and her address a challenge has been filed with a federal court which has granted an immediate temporary injunction on Trump's actions.

That would totally take the wind out of Donnie Two Scoops' "dramatic" announcement. The news after his speech will be about how Pelosi outfoxed him again.

RobertDevereaux

(1,856 posts)
43. If he announces it during SOTU...
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 05:43 PM
Feb 2019

# Nanci immediately halts the speech and has Sergeant at Arms hustle him out.
# The House votes to impeach him and Pence.
# The Senate, in attendance, votes to remove him and Pence.
# Nanci, now the Prez, gives a REAL SOTU speech.

All in favor?

Texin

(2,594 posts)
44. He's been shrieking about a *national emergency* since before the midterms.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 06:50 PM
Feb 2019

If there had been one then, why didn't he invoke his emergency declaration then?

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
45. "So you BETTER WATCH!!!! LOOOOOOK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:10 PM
Feb 2019

Sock drawer classification, chasing pigeons around a statue, or going to the laundromat - all good options next Tuesday.

Anybody got anything better to suggest?

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
50. Didn't sound like a ''tease'' to me. Unless he's fishing for good ratings. Yeah, probably so.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 08:04 PM
Feb 2019

Honestly, I won't watch. Maybe if it doesn't make my stomach turn, I'll catch it on YouTube later.

at140

(6,110 posts)
52. That could trigger Impeachment emergency!
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 08:18 PM
Feb 2019

What would be even a bigger theatrical event is FBI agents showing up in the House of representatives during SOTU, march right to the podium ....and you can imagine the rest.

brush

(53,764 posts)
53. Hasn't anyone told this fool that the Congress has to vote...
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 09:01 PM
Feb 2019

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on this and the courts will come into play?

And why is it an imergency now and wasn't enough of one before the shutdown for him to declare it?

He's going to lose on bothe counts.

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