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bearsfootball516

(6,373 posts)
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:24 PM Feb 2019

Trump says he's not 'happy' or 'thrilled' with bipartisan border deal

Source: Washington Post

The tentative deal, announced Monday evening by congressional negotiators, would provide only a fraction of the $5.7 billion President Trump was seeking for 200 miles of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. It would instead provide $1.375 billion for 55 miles of new border fences.

“I can’t say I’m happy. I can’t say I’m thrilled,” Trump said of the deal.

Unless a border deal is signed into law, the government will enter another partial shutdown on Saturday.
This is a developing story. It will be updated.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2019/02/12/trump-says-hes-not-happy-or-thrilled-with-bipartisan-border-deal-that-would-avert-another-government-shutdown/?utm_term=.2bdcb9c14e0c



Worries me that Coulter or Limbaugh may have gotten to him and he's going to veto it.
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Trump says he's not 'happy' or 'thrilled' with bipartisan border deal (Original Post) bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 OP
He'll fucking sign it though. Even he knows he screwed up with the last one. marble falls Feb 2019 #1
Maybe, maybe not! atreides1 Feb 2019 #12
He may have known he screwed up, cab67 Feb 2019 #15
Yup. He'll sign it because Mitch won't protect him this time DrToast Feb 2019 #20
Are you betting on Trump having any common sense? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #31
Doing an overall evaluation 🤔: sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #33
He apparently needs that adoration. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #35
If he was just an ordinary citizen with no governing power sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #36
I understand. eom guillaumeb Feb 2019 #39
Then it's probably a halfway decent arrangement sandensea Feb 2019 #2
Isn't that realization disgusting? "All of the above." sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #34
SO disgusting - like you've never seen, let me tell you. sandensea Feb 2019 #37
I remember that one. The holy repukes think nothing of it. 🤤 sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #41
They think of him as King David: full of character flaws; but a man of greatness sandensea Feb 2019 #42
Pour lil trumpy has a sad. Canoe52 Feb 2019 #3
Whomp whomp asshole thegoose Feb 2019 #4
I really don't care, do you? Iliyah Feb 2019 #5
Guess what Orangeman. I'm not 'happy' or 'thrilled' with you either, so I guess we're even. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2019 #6
He never read the fuck'n thing. watoos Feb 2019 #7
Good, go stew about it all night and send some incoherent tweets IronLionZion Feb 2019 #8
"Unless a border deal is signed into law" - WRONG. Civics 101- BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #9
Well, technically, waiting out the 10-day timeframe of the pocket veto would take us past Demit Feb 2019 #17
A "pocket veto" only applies at the end of the Congressional term (before adjournment). BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #18
Yes, you're right. I was thinking the term applied to any time the prez "puts it in his pocket" and Demit Feb 2019 #22
Yeah see in that case BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #25
If Mc Turtle backs it tRump will have to sign it. nt yaesu Feb 2019 #10
GOP senators need to grow a spine and force Turtle to vote to override the Idiot's veto onetexan Feb 2019 #13
He should be. He overplayed his hand and got less than he could have had a couple of months ago. jcmaine72 Feb 2019 #11
Even if ne says he will sign it NOW, he could change his mind in BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #14
It's all Kabuki theater, watoos Feb 2019 #16
This crap gives Kabuki a bad name. Harker Feb 2019 #21
You notice how the money on offer just keeps going down? Down, down, down... Hekate Feb 2019 #19
A bit from the article irisblue Feb 2019 #23
Doesn't matter. If he vetoes, congress will override. Mcconnell won't sit on it this time. PSPS Feb 2019 #24
I don't believe that the Republicans in Congress HopeAgain Feb 2019 #26
No one is happy or thrilled getting their ass handed to them underpants Feb 2019 #27
Who cares? Trump is a worse negotiator than Isiah Thomas WhoWoodaKnew Feb 2019 #28
I wouldn't give him a dime for a wall. We should have pressed for DACA agreement. walkingman Feb 2019 #29
Wrong again, Mr. Groper MissMillie Feb 2019 #30
I want p****gr*****g to be declared a National Emergency. nt NCjack Feb 2019 #32
Trump is not happy or thrilled in being a loser LawnKorn Feb 2019 #38
McTurtle ain't playing anymore. MFGsunny Feb 2019 #40

atreides1

(16,066 posts)
12. Maybe, maybe not!
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:57 PM
Feb 2019

We know he screwed up the last time...but with the cheers of his cult still fresh in his ears...and the opinions of Hannity, Coulter, that this bill is garbage...there's a chance he won't sign it!

Trump lacks the empathy found in a rock, he didn't give two shits about federal workers suffering in the last shutdown, why would he be concerned now?

cab67

(2,990 posts)
15. He may have known he screwed up,
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:06 PM
Feb 2019

but I don't think his memory extends very far. He's probably forgotten by now.

Senate Republicans have to put a lot of pressure on the Orange One to counter the rage coming from Fox "News".

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
20. Yup. He'll sign it because Mitch won't protect him this time
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:43 PM
Feb 2019

The Republicans won't hold the line this time. They blame him (correctly so) for that bullshit shutdown.

sprinkleeninow

(20,215 posts)
33. Doing an overall evaluation 🤔:
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:04 PM
Feb 2019

"Double plus 1 NO!"

The adoration of his fans and hate radio being the final influence for him digging in.

He has ten days to sign deal ? which may be used for some hurt inflicted b4 he actually signs. He may have had an inkling seep into the 'cavern' that he ain' gonna make 2020 for redux.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
35. He apparently needs that adoration.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:20 PM
Feb 2019

Perhaps as a substitute for the affection he did not receive as a child?

sprinkleeninow

(20,215 posts)
36. If he was just an ordinary citizen with no governing power
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 05:12 PM
Feb 2019

then there would be understanding coupled with compassion.

But not someone lacking affection in formative years who, from the oval office, is effectively damaging our country, the democratic way and rule of law.

I leave * to Heaven. Not on me.

sandensea

(21,600 posts)
2. Then it's probably a halfway decent arrangement
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:27 PM
Feb 2019

Always a good sign when the Orange Oaf isn't "thrilled" about something.

When he is, it usually involves illicit enrichment, treason, bigotry, underage girls, or all of the above.

sandensea

(21,600 posts)
42. They think of him as King David: full of character flaws; but a man of greatness
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 10:13 PM
Feb 2019

Try Caligula. Or Idi Amin.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
8. Good, go stew about it all night and send some incoherent tweets
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:43 PM
Feb 2019

After Coulter's insults last time, caveman will probably sign it anyway.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
9. "Unless a border deal is signed into law" - WRONG. Civics 101-
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:43 PM
Feb 2019

It does NOT have to be "signed into law". If a piece of legislation is vetoed, then Congress can override and it becomes law. Alternately, if a piece of legislation is sent to the President for signature and it sits for 10 days (not counting Sundays and if not sent over near the end of a Congressional session in December) without being signed, then it will automatically "become law" without a signature.

This bullshit that the media keeps doing is driving me nuts.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
17. Well, technically, waiting out the 10-day timeframe of the pocket veto would take us past
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:26 PM
Feb 2019

Friday's deadline & the govt would have to shut down. Ditto if he sits on it for that length of time before deciding whether to sign it or veto it. In this case, the deadline rules.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
18. A "pocket veto" only applies at the end of the Congressional term (before adjournment).
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:31 PM
Feb 2019

The "10-day wait to automatically become law" mention was done as a general "Civics 101" option and "How a bill becomes a law", something that the Washington Post is apparently unaware of (even if it doesn't apply here with respect to timing).

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
22. Yes, you're right. I was thinking the term applied to any time the prez "puts it in his pocket" and
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:54 PM
Feb 2019

doesn't sign.

But the 10 days still obtains, because 10 days would take us past Friday. The writer is correct to say that unless he actively signs this bill, the govt will have to shut down. (I'm assuming there's realistically not enough time between now and Friday midnight for him to veto and for Congress to override it.)

You're also right that it wouldn't kill journalists to explicate the civics involved

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
25. Yeah see in that case
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:04 PM
Feb 2019

it has to do with the timing to allow for Congress to "override". If it sits between sessions when the old Congress has left and the new one has not been sworn in yet, then it gets that "pocket veto".

But again - there are other obscure tools that Congress has used where theoretically, Congress can also "stop the clock" - they have done it before over a weekend if something wasn't quite ready yet to be sent for signature, during which time some sort of lapse has occurred or is about to occur. I know they have done it during times when I was a fed and there was an imminent lapse in appropriations (where agencies were told to hold off on sending out furlough notices).

Sadly there are all sorts of games they have played and can play.

onetexan

(13,020 posts)
13. GOP senators need to grow a spine and force Turtle to vote to override the Idiot's veto
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:00 PM
Feb 2019

if it comes down to that. He is clearly endangering the country in many ways as we've seen with the ridiculous and reckless shutdown last month. It cannot happen again.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
11. He should be. He overplayed his hand and got less than he could have had a couple of months ago.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:54 PM
Feb 2019

Actually, he got far more than he should have gotten. The arrogant a-hole should be orgasmic and enjoy what I hope will be the last money ever allocated to this idiocy.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
14. Even if ne says he will sign it NOW, he could change his mind in
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:05 PM
Feb 2019

a nanosecond...he does that all the time. Worst deal maker EVER! Worst fake prez EVER!

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
16. It's all Kabuki theater,
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:14 PM
Feb 2019

Trump will jump at this deal because the new fence will be on federal land. If Trump is serious about fencing hundreds of miles he's going to run into court battles or he will have to condemn people's property. Most people who have land along the border don't want a fence.

Hekate

(90,555 posts)
19. You notice how the money on offer just keeps going down? Down, down, down...
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:40 PM
Feb 2019

Our Dems are not caving -- Trump is. At one point the Dems actually offered him a fig leaf so he could say he got something, but he said no, threw his pablum against the wall and shut down the government.

Then the Dems (read: Mme Chair) fancied it up and offered him less money. Some here said the Dems were gonna cave. Uh, no, they offered him less money.

And it is happening again. Nancy Pelosi was right: Trump is going to end up with a beaded curtain that he'll have to call a wall.

And I'm saying the only way he can claim it's Mexican is if he sends one of his kids to the Tijuana bazarre to buy one for him.

irisblue

(32,928 posts)
23. A bit from the article
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:00 PM
Feb 2019

snip--"“I don’t think you’re going to see a shutdown. I wouldn’t want to see a shutdown. If you did have it, it’s the Democrats fault,” Trump said. “And I accepted the first one, and I’m proud of what we’ve accomplished because people learned during that shutdown all about the problems coming in from the southern border. I accept it. I’ve always accepted it. But this one, I would never accept it if it happens.”


snip--"The bipartisan agreement announced late Monday by the top four leaders of Congress’ spending committees includes $1.375 billion for 55 miles of new fences along the border, short of the $5.7 billion Trump had sought for more than 200 miles of walls. It retreats from Democrats’ demands for stringent new limits on the ability of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency to detain undocumented immigrants."

The article names Mc Connell(Ky)& Thune(ND), both in their parties leadership are quoted. Interesting

MissMillie

(38,529 posts)
30. Wrong again, Mr. Groper
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:19 PM
Feb 2019

“I don’t think you’re going to see a shutdown. I wouldn’t want to see a shutdown. If you did have it, it’s the Democrats fault,” Trump said.

You keep demanding something you know you're not going to get. Not only that, only about 1/3 of country wants it.

If you keep fighting for 1) something that isn't necessary; 2) something that won't work to address the crisis you made up; 3) something people don't want to spend money on (Mexico was supposed to pay for it, according to you) 4) something you didn't get the last time you held Federal workers hostage...

Then it is ENTIRELY YOUR FAULT.


(Or keep pulling the sh*t your pulling and watch the rest of us vote your stupid a** out of office.)

LawnKorn

(1,137 posts)
38. Trump is not happy or thrilled in being a loser
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:50 PM
Feb 2019

Well Mr. Trump, tired of being a loser yet?, loser. You can always resign and save yourself the grief.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
40. McTurtle ain't playing anymore.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:45 PM
Feb 2019


Am even willing to bet a shiny penny that McTurtle has veto-proof majority votes in his back pocket this time.

Something about "the second kick of a mule."

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