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Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:05 PM Feb 2019

Trump Declares National Emergency To Fund the Wall

Source: CNN


"So the order is signed. And I'll sign the final papers as soon as I get into the Oval Office. And we will have a national emergency," Trump said.
After he signs national emergency and executive action paperwork, Trump said, "We will then be sued," rattling off a possible chain of events, which included bad ruling in the 9th Circuit Court, which he has previously lamented.

"We will possibly get another bad ruling, and then we’ll get another bad ruling, and then we’ll end up in the Supreme Court," Trump said, comparing the process to challenges to his administration's travel ban.

"And then, hopefully, we'll get a fair shake."


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/government-shutdown-february-2019/h_5d79d10c37871f1c1a9d1b7992c3c763

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Trump Declares National Emergency To Fund the Wall (Original Post) Stuart G Feb 2019 OP
The patient died several years ago so Trump is now declaring it an emergency... Historic NY Feb 2019 #1
Yes, and Trump is "clueless" about this as well as most other things. Stuart G Feb 2019 #2
He's about to learn that the multiple lawsuits that LibDemAlways Feb 2019 #3
the loose the dogs of lawsuits! Javaman Feb 2019 #4
Hitler had a wall, too. We breached it. B Stieg Feb 2019 #5
Good analogy, watoos Feb 2019 #12
The Senate will soon be forced, duforsure Feb 2019 #6
My guess is Mitch will do some backdoor wheeling and dealing so just enough Repugnants vote to stop cstanleytech Feb 2019 #9
I hope you are right. watoos Feb 2019 #13
I doubt that Mr. Frost Feb 2019 #15
What an insult to real emergencies Blue Owl Feb 2019 #7
Or a Black man is seeing getting in a car. Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #18
he claimed Obama declared a national emergency over something to do with Mexico yaesu Feb 2019 #8
It's all about burying Mueller in the news, and buying Russian resources for the wall. C Moon Feb 2019 #10
I want the next Democrat in the whitehouse to announce a national government corruption emergency cstanleytech Feb 2019 #11
Personally.... Mr. Frost Feb 2019 #16
The Bush past keeps haunting me about what's going on now voteragain Feb 2019 #14
I fear that not enough people know what is in the Constitution Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #19
Welcome to DU! And you are right LiberalLovinLug Feb 2019 #20
Thank you and hello voteragain Feb 2019 #21
lol, any way this plpays we win in the end with the next democratic president given special power beachbum bob Feb 2019 #17

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
1. The patient died several years ago so Trump is now declaring it an emergency...
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:08 PM
Feb 2019

when he had both houses under Republican control they didn't give him the money.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
2. Yes, and Trump is "clueless" about this as well as most other things.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:10 PM
Feb 2019

I will say it again, Donald Trump is much too stupid to know that he is "stupid."

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
3. He's about to learn that the multiple lawsuits that
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:14 PM
Feb 2019

will prevent this nonsense from going forward will tie it up in the courts for years after he's gone, which, with any luck, will be sooner rather than later. The only reason he's doing this is so Sean Hannity and Ann Coutergeist, the two he most lives in fear of, will back off and say nice things about him.

Javaman

(62,504 posts)
4. the loose the dogs of lawsuits!
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:26 PM
Feb 2019

this will go down as probably the most fucked up thing in our nations history.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
5. Hitler had a wall, too. We breached it.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:26 PM
Feb 2019

Rommel (C-in-C in theater) told Hitler that The Atlantic Wall was too dug in, too rigid and would prevent him from shifting resources (tanks) to the places where they were needed, depending on where the Allied landing was heaviest.

This is exactly what border control agents believe about tRump's wall: they need more resources that can be quickly moved into place (including mobile x-ray trucks), not some megalith "target" wall that can be strategized against!

tRump is an idiot. Period.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
12. Good analogy,
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 02:12 PM
Feb 2019

"Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity." General George Patton.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
6. The Senate will soon be forced,
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:28 PM
Feb 2019

After it passes in the House a stopping of this , to vote to stop it too, or face and even worse disaster and national emergency for their dying republican party after allowing this to happen. McConnell knows this too, so either way he's screwed, and if they resist in any way the American people will really be heading to the 2020 election pissed , and trump and them regretful for what they've done. Guess they didn't learn anything from the Mid terms results.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
9. My guess is Mitch will do some backdoor wheeling and dealing so just enough Repugnants vote to stop
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:44 PM
Feb 2019

Trump but it will be prevent the least amount of damage to the Repugnant party as possible.
By that I mean he will have ones like Collins who are in deep shit over Kavanaugh vote to stop Trump and others will be the ones that just won re election as they are the least vulnerable but he wont do it for the good of the country he will do it because he knows the next Democrat will then use it to bypass Congress to enact programs the Repugnants will not like.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
13. I hope you are right.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 02:13 PM
Feb 2019

I have yet to hear Speaker Pelosi say that she is introducing that resolution.

 

Mr. Frost

(75 posts)
15. I doubt that
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 02:22 PM
Feb 2019

We are at the early stages of this term of government. They will not care, and show no mercy. This also goes for the blue dogs like Manchin and Murkowski who must appease their voters in their states that are redder than the Krypton sun.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
18. Or a Black man is seeing getting in a car.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 03:15 PM
Feb 2019

I wish those people would have to pay a fine and stop this.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
8. he claimed Obama declared a national emergency over something to do with Mexico
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:35 PM
Feb 2019

& MSM didn't even call him out on it.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
11. I want the next Democrat in the whitehouse to announce a national government corruption emergency
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:50 PM
Feb 2019

and institute a sweeping investigation over ever Senator and Congressman for graft and corruption and we all know that the odds favor the Repugnants at having the majority of corrupt in office.
I also want a national healthcare emergency so medicare for everyone can be added followed by a national living wage emergency and then to top it off a national tax increase on the wealthy and corporations emergency.

 

Mr. Frost

(75 posts)
16. Personally....
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 02:33 PM
Feb 2019

I feel the best way to do that is through Article V means. It will take a lot of campaigning to find reps to be elected into the states houses and senates who will strongly support such a measure.

voteragain

(12 posts)
14. The Bush past keeps haunting me about what's going on now
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 02:15 PM
Feb 2019

People like you are still living in what we call the reality-based community. You believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality. That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you are studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors, and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.

Karl Rove was supposed to be credited with the quote but denied it.

my point is....unless Trump is stopped...when does he declare himself life president due to a national emergency? to me he has already crossed the Rubicon.....

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
19. I fear that not enough people know what is in the Constitution
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 03:18 PM
Feb 2019

or even care. All they ever hear about are the first two amendments.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
20. Welcome to DU! And you are right
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 03:20 PM
Feb 2019

And I think that Democrats still have not figured out how to battle this phenomenon. How to get ahead of it, and be the actors themselves. They are, way too many times, the reactors not the actors. It happens again and again, and lets not dismiss the MSM news networks that also fall into this trap.

This phenom results in Trump and his R's making the news every day, and D's whining about it after the fact. So by perception, it seems as though Trump is active and productive, and all D's can do is complain after the fact. And astonishingly, even though D's are the ones with all the ideas, all the suggestions for healthcare, minimum wages, maternity leave etc etc etc.....and R's only contribution to government is to quash any of those ideas, and have none of their own.....somehow it is perceived by many that Trump is working hard all the time.

And even now, we hear ruminations in the top Democratic circles about keeping impeachment 'off the table'. Frightened again about being the doers, the actors. The protagonists that lead the story. The same is true about this circle dismissing and even mocking the Green New Deal, and Medicare for All. The Democrats at the top still haven't understood that Americans respect bravado, and they hate wimps. Even if the wimps are right.

voteragain

(12 posts)
21. Thank you and hello
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 04:09 PM
Feb 2019

I also keep remembering what Franklin D. Roosevelt said,

“We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace—business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering.

They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.

Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me—and I welcome their hatred.”


here we are again !!!!

the Trumps and their enablers must go !!!!!

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
17. lol, any way this plpays we win in the end with the next democratic president given special power
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 02:36 PM
Feb 2019

OR the power of what a president can declare is limited

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