UPDATE: Sen. Bernie Sanders will seek the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Washington Post



Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, whose 2016 presidential campaign grew from a left-wing insurgency to a force that reshaped the Democratic Party, announced Tuesday that he will seek its nomination for president again in 2020.

“We began the political revolution in the 2016 campaign, and now it's time to move that revolution forward,” Sanders told Vermont Public Radio in an interview airing Tuesday morning.

Sanders, who has held dozens of political rallies across the country since the 2016 election, enters the race with the biggest social media following — and biggest mailing list — of any candidate for the Democratic nomination. His decision came after a number of groups that spun out from his 2016 run, such as Our Revolution and People for Bernie, held house parties to mobilize his old supporters, and to find new ones.

After coming a few hundred delegates short of victory in 2016, Sanders begins a 2020 race with some advantages. He is one of the best-known and most admired figures in Democratic politics, though he is not a member of the party. He built campaign operations in every primary and caucus state.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/sen-bernie-sanders-will-seek-the-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2020/2019/02/19/be5b0216-002e-11e9-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html

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Official now.

Original article -

Sen. Bernie Sanders, Democrats' 2016 runner-up, to make another presidential bid

By Washington Post Staff
February 19 at 6:34 AM

Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont whose 2016 presidential campaign grew from a left-wing insurgency to a major political force, will seek the Democratic Party’s nomination again in 2020.

After Donald Trump became president, Sanders began to take a bigger role shaping the party, reintroducing ambitious bills, starting with “Medicare-for-all” legislation. Those ideas have gained popularity since his 2016 run, but he now faces a diverse field of candidates, many of whom share his policy positions if not his democratic socialist beliefs.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/02/19/sen-bernie-sanders-democrats-2016-runner-up-to-make-another-presidential-bid/?utm_term=.5e75abb6c15b

[dhol82]

1. Has he adjusted his party affiliation yet?

[George II]

25. He had better - according to the current DNC rules, he had to change his affiliation....

....BEFORE his announcement.

He still shows as an "I" in Vermont, and before anyone tells me Vermont has no party affiliation, Patrick Leahy has been a "D" in Vermont for more than 40 years.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

50. Yes, it's been a whole ten minutes since Bernie declared!! Puhhhleeease!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!

[George II]

90. DNC rules state, among other things, that one must be a Democrat "at the time of declaring".

If it's been a whole ten minutes since he declared, I presume he's been a Democrat for at least 11 minutes?

[Power 2 the People]

147. Woo hoo!!

[samnsara]

2. oh geeeeez

[BostonBlue]

3. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............

[Botany]

4. I wish he would just go away

n/t

[we can do it]

10. Same here

[we can do it]

14. Been thinking that.

And Russia.

[chwaliszewski]

64. Highly doubtful.

Please stop gaslighting.

[SkyDaddy7]

13. Same here

x2

[justie18]

74. Exactly!

Not ready for a rerun

[luvtheGWN]

94. You have to ask yourself: Why is he running again?

A view from the north: Whenever Sanders is interviewed -- whether on a news program, or a late night talk show -- I know exactly (and I mean EXACTLY) what he is going to say. It's the same old song, even sung in the same key. And that song isn't worth being sung by him anymore. There are plenty of great progressive candidates in the race, and the U.S. deserves a more exciting tune.

And practically speaking, think of who you would like to represent you on the world stage. Of the declared candidates, and if I were an American, my #1 choice would be Kamala Harris.

But that's just me!

[Gothmog]

104. His latest poorly reviewed book is not selling

Book sales are down

[obamanut2012]

36. 100% same

[Rebl2]

73. I feel

the same way. I’m in my 60’s and I don’t want someone that age running for president. He should also be a member of the party, which at last check he is not.

[Lonestarblue]

79. Me too.

All he will do is divide the party, to which comments here attest. I appreciate that Bernie brought out the need for more progressive policies, but we now have several good progressive candidates who will appeal to all wings of the Democratic Party, including the significant bloc of minority voters, a constituency that did not warm up to Bernie last time.

[Iggo]

93. I don't. But I wish he wasn't running.

[treestar]

107. Yes, what happened

to "we need new blood" and "we need younger candidates?"

[Iggo]

139. That kinda died when they tried it on Pelosi.

It always comes back, though.

[EarthFirst]

5. :pops corn::

Extra butter; anyone?

[Bengus81]

6. We need you in the Senate Bernie.......

[Martin Eden]

15. Yep

He should not run for president. He was borderline too old in 2016.

He turns 83 in Sep 2024, near the end of his first term.

[vsrazdem]

51. Really, he's only 1 year older than Biden then.

[Perseus]

71. Biden should not run either

As much as I like Biden, he should not run. I believe the Democratic party already has a lot of good candidates, we don't need Bernie or Biden.

Now, why is it that Adam Schiff is not running? I believe he would be a great candidate and a great President.

Adam Schiff/Kamala Harris ---> That is the ticket.

[Rebl2]

128. I love

Biden too, but again, it is the age thing that bothers me. We have so many great, younger people running we should pick one of them. I’m in my 60’s and it’s time for younger people to be running for president like Obama did.

[vsrazdem]

117. I don't get it. This ageism really is offensive. I think Nancy Pelosi is doing a great job and she

is older than Bernie. So by your logic, if for some reason Trump and Pence were gone, then Nancy Pelosi should not be president?

[Martin Eden]

125. How old is too old ...?

90?
100?

The presidency (with the possible exception of a sociopath like tRump) is a highly stressful demanding job with a tremendous set of responsibilities.

Like it or not human beings decline with age, and the older you get the more likely your abilities can be unexpectedly cut short. It's a fact of our mortal existence.

I like Bernie Sanders. I voted for him in the 2016 primary, but now he would be 87 at the end of a 2nd term.

If Nancy Pelosi had to fill in to finish a term I would have no immediate concerns, but she wouldn't get my primary vote in a presidential race.

[LudwigPastorius]

180. I agree.

The loss of abilities with age is a scientific fact, not an opinion.

The onset and speed of the decline, and the order in which certain abilities are effected, is largely dependent on the individual, but it is inevitable.

There is a reason airline pilots have a mandatory retirement age of 65.

[potone]

127. Here's the problem as I see it...

the presidency, if the president actually works–which Trump doesn't–takes a very heavy toll on people. Presidents age fast in office. I like Bernie, but I think he is too old, and the same goes for Biden. It is extremely unlikely that Pelosi would ever become president, so I don't worry about that. We need younger people who have the stamina to govern, and who can inspire young people to vote! Biden is not only too old, but he also will not inspire young people. But whoever emerges as the eventual nominee better have a progressive agenda to repair at least some of the damage that Trump and the Republicans have done.

[Martin Eden]

155. "We need younger people who have the stamina to govern, and who can inspire young people to vote!"

+1

Plus, the nominee needs to have an outstanding set of qualifications with a policy agenda to go with inspiring leadership.

[Maven]

77. No, we need him to resign so a Democrat can run for his Senate seat.

Not an “independent” who rigs the primary in his state to prevent a real Dem from running.

[murielm99]

7. I hope our party has the good sense

to tell him that he cannot divide and criticize us and then turn around and take advantage of our resources. Let him run as an independent. He is not one of us.

He reminds me of the people who go to church on Christmas and Easter, who turn to the church when their daughter is getting married or when grandma dies. The want the church then, but won't support it the rest of the year. They claim church membership quite indignantly if anyone questions their commitment. A lot of their friends agree with that position as well. Do they give money? Do they mow the lawn? Do they teach Sunday School? Oh, but they're Christians. Of course they are.

Go away, Bernie. You had your chance. Not this time, Bernie.

[George II]

20. Not bragging, but we go to church every week. On Christmas and Easter we have to get there...

...almost an hour earlier to avoid the "Holiday" rush. Interesting, the Catholic Church revamped some of the readings about three years ago, but on holidays half the people still mutter the old ones.

[True Blue American]

34. Great post

So true.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

45. You're suggesting it's preferable Bernie run as an Independent?! You can't be serious!!

That would just guaran-damn-tee the tRumpster Fire's re-election.

[safeinOhio]

120. Spot on.

Let the primaries decide, and it won't be Bernie.

[Chemisse]

124. Yeah, that's the problem. If we tell Bernie to go away,

We get him running as an 'I' and pulling off just enough votes to ensure Trump wins.

[murielm99]

154. You know that I am not suggesting any such thing.

Don't put words in my mouth.

Bernie should not be running at all. Any way he runs makes 45's reelection more likely.

[we can do it]

8. NottaDem should team up with coffee guy.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

49. Riiiiight!! And seal victory for the Nazi-in-Chief?!?! No thank you!!

[George II]

9. "enters the race with..the biggest mailing list -- of any candidate for the Democratic nomination.."

He has my email address, but I never gave it to him. I wonder where he got it from?

[BumRushDaShow]

19. I expect he mined the DNC/ActBlue list

and for some reason, I was suddenly on the "progressivepartyusa" list as of 12/23/18, so getting a lot from them (which includes Bernie stuff).

[George II]

21. I started getting emails from him and his surrogates a day or two after the Dec 2015 breach.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. Hmmm...

[obamanut2012]

37. As did I

[ehrnst]

70. Me too.... (nt)

[Mike Nelson]

12. I'm happy that...

… it's official. Also, it's good that he said he's running as a Democrat. Imagine the result if he were to NOT run as a Democrat. That would be a disaster....

[we can do it]

16. He's not a Democrat.

[henbuck]

173. Irrelevant

[we can do it]

175. It is relevant. He's divisive as well.

[PatSeg]

56. I was thinking the same thing

though I really wish he just wouldn't run. He did help start a revolution on the left and I think he should take pride in that, but being president was not meant to be for him. This time he could have taken on a different role and become a kingmaker or preferably a queenmaker.

I don't know what on earth he was thinking, but this was a terrible decision. The Democratic party was so torn in 2016 and it is just now starting to come together for a common purpose. Bernie in the race will not help and I'm afraid history will not remember him fondly because of it.

[Mike Nelson]

61. If he drops out early...

… he could still play a positive role and avoid bitter stuff with the other candidates... and possibly be a force for good in the Senate.

[PatSeg]

105. God I hope so

I always had a high opinion of Bernie, but I didn't support his run for president. Some people just aren't presidential material. It takes more than great ideas and compelling rhetoric to be the most powerful person on the planet.

Sadly, now my opinion of him is less than it used to be, as it feels like he got bitten by the president bug and he is doing this for all the wrong reasons. He should look back at all the failed candidacies in the Democratic party and see how others handled their loss with grace and dignity and went on to serve in other ways - Al Gore, John Kerry, Hillary Clint (twice), John Dean (best DNC chair ever and helped get Obama elected), Joe Biden. And of those, Al Gore and Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and probably had the election stolen from them.

This is starting to feel like one huge ego trip. He could and should do better than that.

[JudyM]

132. He is a strong supporter of Dem principles and has helped give voice to them in concrete terms.

[djg21]

17. Trying his best to fuck up another.

Bernie should go away.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

18. Go away, Bernie. Ugh.

[Phoenix61]

22. I'm not going to post what I really want to

I'm just going to say, no. He's too old. I appreciate the fact that being president is on his bucket list, but no, just no.

[babylonsister]

26. Is Biden too old, and what's with the ageism? nt

[George II]

27. He's younger than Sanders.

[babylonsister]

43. By a year? Yea, that makes a difference. nt

[SammyWinstonJack]

55. That's different you see because Biden had a (D) after his name.

BERNIE'S NOT A DEMOCRAT DAMNNIT!!11!!!111!!!.

[babylonsister]

66. Yep! nt

[BlueStater]

60. Yes, Biden is too old as well.

How old is too to be president? 90? 100?

If it's possible for someone to be too young to be president, then the reverse is also true.

[redstatebluegirl]

112. I love Biden but he needs to step aside and let a younger generation go for it.

This is being said by a 64 year old woman so no ageism here. If Biden were the nominee I would work hard for him. Unlike Bernie, he has been a DEMOCRAT his entire life!

[yaesu]

119. Biden would be 80 when he started his term if he was elected, think he's a year younger than Bernie.

[OldManTarHeel]

23. I Have Zero Interest in Senator Sanders . .

Hopefully, he'll get the message early on and drop out.

[WhoWoodaKnew]

28. Why?????????

And on a different topic, can I be the PR director for every democratic candidate so that I can make them all stop saying stupid crap all the time. Every single freakin one of them is killing us.

[dem4decades]

29. Putin wins another day. He will use Sanders to destroy the party.

Again.

[George II]

30. Hah. I clicked on your post to add "again", it's already there!

[dem4decades]

62. I post on a different site that has Trump fans on it. They were

Celebrating the news Bernie was announcing today.

It's a pretty tough and tumble place and sometimes i get on trouble when i go from there to here.

[2naSalit]

31. Spare us, pleeeeease!

What a lot of money that's going to go down the toilet in this next couple years.

[obamanut2012]

41. Cosign

[Fuzzpope]

33. Not thrilled.

Signal to noise ratio between dem candidates just got cranked to 11.

Fwiw, I was a vigorous supporter (NOT a Bernie bro, thanks) of his in 2016, this is the only person I've ever made a campaign contribution to, but I don't know how I feel about him running now.

[Snellius]

38. Isn't that flight fully booked? nt

[obamanut2012]

40. California is a Super Tuesday state now

Lots of Southern states also early in the mix. Sanders will not have basically just Hillary this time, and I expect the results will drive him even further away from the nom than 2016, and earlier, too. Will he stay in as long this year? Will the "Bros" be as awful as last time? What will happen at the convention?

WILL HE RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS???

[jalan48]

42. This should make 2020's more robust debate format much more interesting.

[ehrnst]

82. How so? (nt)

[jalan48]

83. Bernie pushes the political discussion more to the left. if American's don't agree the results

will show at the ballot box.

[ehrnst]

86. HRC certainly pushed Senator Sanders to the left on Social justice issues.

We'll see how Democrats feel at that ballot box.

Democrats have to be convinced first, and we're to the left of the general population.

[jalan48]

88. We shall see which is why it's good to debate the issues.

[ehrnst]

95. Let me rephrase

What do you mean by "2020's more robust debate format?"

Issues are always debated in primaries, no matter who is debating. Not sure why you think they wouldn't be, or who thinks it wouldn't "be good" to debate the issues.

[jalan48]

97. I believe there will be more debates in 2020.

[ehrnst]

98. So who thinks it would "not" be good to debate the issues?

Issues are always debated in primaries, no matter who is debating or how many debates there are. They aren't debating recipes. Not sure why you think they wouldn't be, or who thinks it wouldn't "be good" to debate the issues.

And why do you think there will be more debates in 2020?

[jalan48]

99. Enjoy the debates!

[ehrnst]

100. Not going to answer?

Not surprised.

[George II]

145. .

[George II]

118. "We shall see"? You say that it's good to debate the issue, when asked why you say "we shall see"?

[jalan48]

123. Six debates planned in 2019 and six more in 2020. Terrific!

[yaesu]

121. yep, we need that push to the left & he does a good job with that

I welcome his input and welcome him to the 2020 race. As for me, I'm going to be sexist & only support a women candidate during the primaries but will vote for the party choice during the GE.

[jalan48]

122. I haven't decided yet. I would love to see a woman as well and we have several good ones running

this time.

[George II]

131. If Democratic candidates in some Districts lost to republicans who were to the right of them....

....what will be accomplished by "pushing to the left" even further. The result will be losses, but by a greater margin.

[birbeus]

137. Surely, by party politics alone, you must see that democrats are, on a whole, to the left of the....

Republicans, and if you fail to see that a general leftward shove of the democratic party could be what America needs right now, a counterbalance to the fairly heavily right-wing Republican party.

[George II]

150. Elections are won by district and state, not nationally. A "leftward" Democrat in many districts...

...or states will have a tough time winning vs. a centrist Democrat.

Do you think any of our current "leftward" Democratic Senators could win election in West Virginia, or Alabama, or Montana, or even Arizona?

[stonecutter357]

46. taxes please !

[still_one]

47. I wonder what the reaction will be among Democrats when they see the likes of Susan Sarandon, Cornel

West, and others who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016?

[amuse bouche]

48. He will be 80 years old and still not a Dem. I'll pass.

[NJCher]

76. So if it is a trump vs Bernie choice

You will pass?

[George II]

89. I predict that neither will be candidates next year.

[amuse bouche]

115. It won't be that choice but thanks for your concern

[NJCher]

163. You'll be voting for Bernie

Thanks to Bernie's success with Our Revolution, you'll be voting for him. His ideas are now mainstream Democratic, so whomever you vote for, you're really voting for Bernie.

Congratulations, and welcome to the fold.

[R B Garr]

167. Actually, ideas are easy to talk about when no reality

was expected of Bernie to answer why Vermont has not implemented his “ideas.” Why should he have all the fun. It looks others have picked up on this strategy.

[amuse bouche]

168. "You'll be voting for Bernie"

I promise I won't be. And I won't be joining 'our revolution' either. But good luck with continuing annoying and off putting tactics

[NJCher]

169. thank you

It was meant to annoy. I don't know if it was as good as your tactic of deflecting an answer with a psychic prediction, however.

[amuse bouche]

170. ' thank you It was meant to annoy. '

So happy you met your goal. Small things and all

[cab67]

52. will he at least have the good sense this time to drop out

when his victory becomes mathematically impossible?

not holding my breath on that.

[Tarc]

53. Well, I won't vote for him in the primary, but he can have his chance like any other

That's all I have to say on ol' Bern specifically...well, publicly...as I rather enjoy serving on juries again.

Speaking of, the click-and-report crowd has been extra-busy last night and this morning, so be measured in your statements, all.

[hurple]

54. I see

He's back with his hand out for money.

He is NOT a Democratic Party member. (except when he wants their money)

Go away already!

[AkFemDem]

57. Hard pass for all the reasons....

“After coming a few hundred delegates short of victory in 2016, Sanders begins a 2020 race with some advantages. He is one of the best-known and most admired figures in Democratic politics, though he is not a member of the party.”

What the author failed to mention in their excessive fawning is he is also the most divisive of the candidates....

His old age and divisiveness aside, the last part of this statement is what matters most. He is not a democrat. Hard pass!

[Squinch]

58. Seek away, BS, but first show us your tax returns.

[katmondoo]

59. Thanks Bernie for helping give us Donald Trump

What were you doing all the years Hillary was working for America and it's people

[TNNurse]

63. It is not that I disagree with him on many issues.

It is that he is a SEASONAL DEMOCRAT AND HE IS TOO DAMN OLD.

[at140]

111. Neither Biden nor Bernie are too old if

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Their mental health is in good shape.
I can't believe how many are discriminating based on age. There is even a law against age related discrimination.

[fleabiscuit]

157. Non sequitur. nt

[at140]

158. "HE IS TOO DAMN OLD." was what I answered to

Proper sequitor!

[EX500rider]

159. Lots of jobs you won't get hired for over 70yo. nt

[at140]

165. Agreed, but depends on the job!

Many of the justices on Supreme Court are older than Bernie, and still on the job.
Surely Bernie is too old to be a fireman for example. But not too old to be a judge or a senator,
or president of the United States.

[mountain grammy]

65. Yay. Go Bernie!

[chwaliszewski]

67. If Bernie wins the Dem nomination, would you vote for him?

Just playing devil's advocate here. Yes or no, would you vote for Bernie in the general election if he wins the Democratic nomination?

[McCamy Taylor]

68. Hell yeah!

[BumRushDaShow]

69. That "devil's advocate" question would probably garner a hide if someone answered it here

[ehrnst]

72. Unlike several past (and a few current) DU members, I will vote for the Democratic POTUS nominee

no matter who it is.

I am confident that the nominee will be chosen by the majority of Democratic voters, in particular women of color, so I doubt I will have problems with the nominee.

[Iggo]

91. Absolutely.

Anyone who wouldn't is a complete fucking moron.

You vote for the Dem candidate in the general election, no matter what.

[treestar]

108. Yes.

Though it would piss me off if he went back to being independent as soon as he gained the WH.

[yaesu]

141. Absolutely. nt

[namahage]

161. If he wins it AND accepts it, yes. n/t

[Iggo]

166. Seriously?

[namahage]

172. Yes, seriously.

It would be nice to have some assurances that our nominee for President would accept the Democratic nomination and not, say, refuse it and run as an Independent.

But we all know Bernie would NEVER do that...

[lunamagica]

78. This

[OhZone]

80. I just hope all the Dems running, pile on Trump -

Let them show who can attack non-democrats like Trump - and Bernie, the best.

ha

[kennetha]

81. Anybody but Bernie

[Squinch]

84. Blech.

[apcalc]

85. So sorry to read this. This will divide us again...say hello to Trump 2020.

[LongtimeAZDem]

136. Or worse, Pence

[BlueStater]

87. Remember when we used to make fun of Reagan, Dole, and McCain for being so old?

Yeah, really coming back to bite us in the ass.

[onetexan]

101. If i'm voting for anyone over 70, it's for Joe Biden

At 76 Joe Biden shows no obvious sign of mental or physical decline and is still going strong. As he's said, no one is more qualified in the field than him. I'm with Joe. Hopefully Beto or Kamala will be on his ticket as VP.

This is what Bernie had to say in response to Barbara Boxer commenting that he's a Democrat ;some days':
"Of course I am a Democrat and running for the Democratic nomination."
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/feb/23/bernie-sanders-democrat/

To say that and then come out and hypocritically pronounce he's not after the 2016 election was just appalling to me.

[Gothmog]

106. Same here

[Iggo]

140. I made fun of McCain...

...because I liked saying McThuselah.

I'll vote for a 110 year old Dem in the general election.

No doubt. No problem.

[bottomofthehill]

92. Good, now Congressman Neal can request 2 sets of taxes

The tRump tax returns and the Sanders tax returns.

[RobertDevereaux]

96. Wonderful news!

[redstatebluegirl]

102. He doesn't have a chance this time.

We have a great field of candidates. Plus we are smarter this time. Most of the Bernie people I know say he had his moment it is time for a young democrat to take over. Bernie is only a Democrat when it is convenient.

[treestar]

109. +1 Imagine if Hillary ran again

This is virtually the same. And he won't have just one person to debate now. He won't get the same amount of attention.

[redstatebluegirl]

113. I love Hillary but I agree with this.

It is time for our party to look to the future, I'm an OLD broad but I like lots of the young candidates we have on deck.

[Chemisse]

126. He got the kid gloves treatment last time around for a reason.

And that was to further demonize Hillary Clinton.

There will be none of that this time and his supporters will be surprised at how fast he will fall under real scrutiny.

[redstatebluegirl]

129. Yep, I said that last time.

I got crucified for saying that he was not being fully scrutinized. Just wait until they get into what his wife did to the College she was President of that had to close. That is a can of worms for sure. Not to mention some of the things former staff have to say about him.

I predict he will be out by June if not before. The money will be more spread out this time too.

[Gothmog]

103. Where are his tax returns?

Senator Harris released ten years of tax returns when she announced

[yaesu]

142. Though its always a good thing for candidates to show it is not required or even expected

until that candidate becomes the presidential nominee, a candidate who is assumed to be their party's nominee, but has not yet been formally nominated or elected by their political party at the party's nominating convention.

[Gothmog]

153. sanders will have to skip Maryland unless he releases his returns

Link to tweet

[yaesu]

164. Yes, I spotted that online and more states may follow though if contested

I don't think any laws of this nature would survive the Supreme court imho. I do know Gov Brown of CA vetoed such a law back in '17.

[solidLxxi]

110. The most vital question for DU folks

is if Bernie Sanders somehow wins the Democratic nomination, will you be voting for him over Donald Trump?

There were mid-West voters who voted for Bernie in the primaries but defected to Trump in the 2016 election, just as there were many Hillary supporters who defected to John McCain in 2008 instead of voting for Obama (despite the fact that she campaigned for Obama after she conceded to him).

[BlueStater]

116. He won't.

There are far more appealing candidates who also aren't nearly 80. Bernie's 15 minutes of fame are up. I predict he bombs on the campaign trail and that'll be the end of his relevancy.

[solidLxxi]

171. After raising $4 million in one day

from over 120,000 people, I'm not sure I can logically agree with your position.

[Snellius]

130. That's before Trump voters opened their Cracker Jacks and got their surprise.

At this point even his supporters know he's a clown. They just hate the opposition more.

[yaesu]

144. Of course I would vote for him or any other Dem running in the GE. nt

[TexasAggieDemocrat12]

114. The hardest of passes.

[George II]

133. It's important to note this:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/391459-dnc-panel-adopts-rule-requiring-candidates-to-run-serve-as-a-democrat

"The Democratic National Committee (DNC) adopted a new rule on Friday....The new rule, adopted by the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee, requires all Democratic presidential candidates to be a member of the Democratic Party"

Link to tweet

/photo/1

[Politicub]

134. Sigh. The harmony on DU was nice while it lasted.

DU turned into an ugly place four years ago. I hope history doesn’t repeat itself.

[David__77]

135. Excellent news!

...

[angrychair]

138. Tulsi Gabbard says....

Whhhhaaaaatttttt!?!

[Blue_Tires]

143. It's funny to see folks pretend he has some kind of advantage

Because unless Hillary jumps in the race again, he's dead in the water.

[henbuck]

174. Wrong

[machoneman]

146. Oh no! No fool like an old fool I say. He'll split our vote like last time. Stuff it Bernie! Pulleez

[kimbutgar]

148. No thank you, please I'll have another.

[apnu]

149. Nope.

Bernie will not have my support. It is unacceptable to be a Democrat when its convenient.

Also, we don't need another old rich white guy. For those who don't know, Bernie is a millionaire. Six figures, so "small" millions, but millions all the same.

Bernie is a step backwards.

[Baclava]

151. Old white guys in the lead so far

[apnu]

152. We are just starting the silly season. Avenatti? Isn't even running!

I hope those numbers change.

I like Biden, I supported Bernie in 2016. But its time we moved on. Right now, Harris has my support.

[Panich52]

156. 3 reasons to ignore him:

1. He's another old white man
2. He's not a Democrat and never will be
3. I'm not sure he has the temperament to be POTUS

[fleabiscuit]

160. I've driven old used clunkers for a long time.

My next model will be a new modern one that will give me many years and miles of trouble free use.

[UniteTheLeft]

162. United we Win ....Divided..well.... you know how that go's already.

Can any of you tell me you'll let go of all fruitless bickering, and counterproductive jealousy this time no matter who wins the DNC 2020 primary ? Did you last time ? Because if you don't then you may as well be voting republican.

Age is not a reason not to vote for someone, gender is not a reason not to vote for someone, race is not a reason not to vote for someone. If we want to lose yet another election then the negativity I see in this post is exactly the losing formula. I understand many of you are worried, and you're right to be worried,but this kind of division can not be afforded this time at all. It's exactly what the Russian/trump trolls are licking their chops to cultivate. Stating the obvious...DU like any other site on the internet is not invulnerable to schill accounts trying to spread discontent and ill will among us.Their schill army sits back and laughs at stuff like this while the comment sections (like this one) do the work for them, and I have the succinct idea that is not what most people here want.

Personally I am not encouraged by the large field of candidates, not that I think any one candidate should not run, but because we have to take more time to narrow the field and unify behind one. You have to consider the fact that republican voters are as decided now as they were in 2016 who they are going to vote for... again... that i guarantee you. That being said I am far less encouraged by, and frustrated by democrat, progressive, and independent voters (whom all share more values with each other than they do these fascists now ruining our nation) still carrying on with all this counterproductive name calling, finger pointing, and generally childish behavior, and feuding with each other.

If as adults we can not all come together and find a consensus on this matter then WE WILL LOSE YET ANOTHER PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN 2020 if this attitude of defeatism, and resentment is not summarily dealt with by first flushing it down the toilet.. where it belongs.

The great majority of Republican/Trump voters in 2016 had no doubt who their vote was for... and look what that got them. We must be as decided as they were last time or we will lose again.

The candidates themselves also have the responsibility to deal with each other fairly if they all want OUR SIDE TO WIN and think that most them already are diplomatic enough to understand they are stronger together, and have a much better chance at winning an election if they know when to concede to each other and adopt each others strengths and combine them .. e.g. Think about it. .. regardless If It's Warren, Harris, Beto, Biden, or Bernie, as the nominee I have always thought the ultimate honor would be to pick one of the other candidates as their VP choice. IDK ...Just Imagine something amazing like Beto/Warren, or Sanders/Beto, Warren/Harris, Biden/Beto, Harris/Beto, frankly I'd take any of those over the nightmare we're all currently being forced to live through now...wouldn't you ?

[SylviaD]

176. Bernie should NOT run. End of story. nt

[SylviaD]

177. Bernine should NOT run. End of story. nt

[Terminally_Chill]

178. bernie please GO AWAY!!!!

this shit is soooo stale.

we need someone else, change is good.

[Gothmog]

179. Senator Warren has released 10 years of taxes

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