Cardinals blame 'homosexual agenda' for abuse crisis

[brooklynite]

Source: Agence France-Presse

Vatican City (AFP) - Two cardinals criticised on Wednesday Pope Francis's approach to the clerical paedophilia crisis, saying "abuse of power" was not to blame but homosexuality.

"We turn to you with deep distress! The Catholic world is adrift," US Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke and German Cardinal Walter Brandmueller said in an open letter to the heads of the bishops' conferences.

"Sexual abuse is blamed on clericalism. But the first and primary fault of the clergy does not rest in the abuse of power but in having gone away from the truth of the Gospel," they said.

They blamed a corruption of the "absolute moral law", referring to homosexuality, which they described as the "denial, by words and by acts, of the divine and natural law".

Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/cardinals-blame-homosexual-agenda-abuse-crisis-142923961.html?soc_src=hl-viewer&soc_trk=tw

[vlyons]

1. I don't understand what the cardinals are saying

Are they saying that gay priests must be purged and defrocked?

[DallasNE]

18. They Purpose No Remedy

Though they insist it is not an abuse of power. They also don't say who is promoting this gay agenda yet those are the ones they are attacking. I, too, am confused on what they are saying, perhaps because it is loaded with code words you have to be an insider to understand. They seem to suggest it would just go away with a stronger message on the sin of homosexuality.


This also ducks the obvious question of why other faiths are not plagued by this gay agenda as they see it. Maybe the power structure is a factor.

[olegramps]

21. The height of the sex abuse took place in a era that was flagrantly anti-homosexual.

The training of priests was perhaps the most important aspect of the cause of the sexual abuse. This is shown by the dramatic change in the manner of the recruitment and training of priests. Sex was essentially at best only tolerated in view of its reproductive capabilities and as a solution for what the church termed as concupiscence or sexual desire that was something that was to suppressed. The more holy state was pure chastity and something to be aspired to. It is ironic that what they aspired to was not based on Jewish tradition but solely on Platonic pagan superstitious ideals. Their gallant but futile struggle lead to what many regarded as a stunted sexual development that manifested itself in unacceptable dangerous behavior. Homosexuals are not normally pedophiles which is a separate classification that many concluded was the result of repressed normal sexual development.

[SharonAnn]

37. What? No mention of the woman and girls? Nor the children they fathered?

Sorry, the cover ups of all their sexual sins leave them with no credibility.

People get upset about the boys because it’s “abnormal”. But the girls? There are lots of them but I guess that’s normal.

[Eugene]

2. The abuse and the cover ups go back a century, long before gay rights were even spoken about.

Try again, guys.

[alwaysinasnit]

16. May I suggest that this shit goes back millenia. The Catholic Church has a very long history

of indulging in every kind of sin they accuse all of us of committing. The hypocrisy of this organization is absolutely mind-boggling.

[RoBear]

3. Yet another SHOWER OF SHIT...

n/t

[Drum]

4. I think the clergy are historically the only homosexuals with any kind of agenda, no? n/t

[BostonBlue]

5. Steve Bannon is a supporter of Burke.

more gaslighting from the right.

[appleannie1943]

6. They sound like husbands that beat their wives. It's her fault.

[johnnyplankton]

7. Talk about doubling down on stupid...

And they wonder why the pews are empty.

[sarcasmo]

8. The Catholic church can piss off

[vlyons]

19. ditto all the other Christian denominations

nt

[BobsYourUncle]

24. My sentiment, exactly.

I've lived 47 years feeling that way but have never expressed it with such eloquence.

[okaawhatever]

9. Except of course that being homosexual does not lead to pedophelia. Additionally, moral law wasn't

just violated by the abusers. Both moral law and actual law were violated for decades by thousands of clerics of the Catholic Church. Not just the abusers, but the industry that popped up to defend and hide their behavior. How many of the non-abusers were in fact aiding and abetting the molestation of a child?

Literally, there is no way in hell that God would justify their statements.


What excuse does he use for the abuse of children at the Catholic Workhouses? Magdalene Laundries?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. +1

[End Of The Road]

10. Biggest bunch of BS I've read today. nt

[CloudWatcher]

11. wait a minute ...

I'm just another angry atheist, but tell me again about papal infallibility?

[cstanleytech]

12. Except that does not explain the molestation of girls that occurred so I call utter

bullshit on them for trying to claim a bogus excuse for bad behavior.

[eggplant]

23. Thank you, I was just about to post about this.

[Lonestarblue]

13. I've always wondered why Catholic priests are forced to be celibate.

I don’t believe there’s a requirement in the Bible, and other Christian groups allow married priests. The urge for sex is a normal part of being a human being, and denying its biological basis seems likei a recipe for failure. Sex with children is not normal, so maybe the church will change its policy when no one wants to become a Catholic priest anymore.

[keithbvadu2]

17. I understood that the Church embraced celibacy so that priests could not hand their churches down to

I understood that the Church embraced celibacy so that priests could not hand their churches down to their heirs.

Mother Church owned the churches as property.

[mrmpa]

14. Here's where the problem began...........

The majority of these heterosexual pedophiles joined the priesthood in the '60's and '70's. The church was seen as refuge from serving in the military & Vietnam. Many Seminarians left, when they saw that they would not be drafted.

The American Church during this time also had a shortage of priests & they stopped giving Seminarians a psychological exam. The psych exam may not have caught all who had issues, but it would have culled the herd.

The church is at fault and no one else.

[47of74]

20. An Lord High Ray opens his trap again.

He of the cappa magna.



Methinks its time for Burke and Brandmueller to be reassigned to parishes somewhere above the Arctic Circle and to confine themselves to the duties of a parish priests.

[EveHammond13]

22. I really really dislike these people. A lot.

[rurallib]

25. Sounds like the Trump school of defense

Is Giuliani working with them too?

[NewEnglandAutumn]

26. There are so many problems with this stance

Let's start with Pedophile priests abused girls as well like this guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_O%27Grady

and it has been going on for a very long time. Long before the claims of a 'homosexual agenda' even existed.

[wysi]

27. Exhibit 1,000,000

... of why I am an ex-Catholic.

[JudyM]

28. The abuse crisis was magnified and perpetuated by the senior clergy relocating abusers

and turning a blind eye. They were supporting the “corrupters” of “absolute moral law.” Were they all gay as well?!
Aiding and abetting is a crime in civil law, but not in the Church?

[AllaN01Bear]

29. ive been hearing about this " homosexual adgenda for over 40 years and i get no explination.

can someone tell me what the " homosexual adgenda is " . i belive that term is a distraction and is full of nonsense.

[Archae]

34. I found it rather quickly.

6:00 am Gym
8:00 am Breakfast (oatmeal and egg whites)
9:00 am Hair appointment
10:00 am Shopping
12:00 PM Brunch

2:00 PM
1) Assume complete control of the U.S. Federal, State and Local
Governments as well as all other national governments,
2) Recruit all straight youngsters to our debauched lifestyle,
3) Destroy all healthy heterosexual marriages,
4) Replace all school counselors in grades K-12 with agents of Colombian
and Jamaican drug cartels,
5) Establish planetary chain of "homo breeding gulags" where over-medicated
imprisoned straight women are turned into artificially impregnated baby
factories to produce prepubescent love slaves for our devotedly
pederastic gay leadership,
6) bulldoze all houses of worship, and
7) Secure total control of the INTERNET and all mass media for the
exclusive use of child pornographers.

2:30 PM Get forty winks of beauty rest to prevent facial wrinkles from
stress of world conquest
4:00 PM Cocktails
6:00 PM Light Dinner (soup, salad, with Chardonnay)
8:00 PM Theater
11:00 PM Bed (du jour)?

[keithbvadu2]

30. Like Trump, avoiding personal responsibility and institutional responsibility as a whole.

Like Trump, avoiding personal responsibility and institutional responsibility as a whole.

[Progressive Jones]

31. These grand poobahs protest too much. Possibly pedophiles themselves. nt

[Canoe52]

32. Me thinks they screwed the pooch with that statement.

[YOHABLO]

33. This is not a ''Catholic Church'' talking point alone. Many protestant churches propose the same.

[gtar100]

35. If they are going to be consistent, they should blame the heterosexual agenda as well.

Both boys and girls were raped by priests.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html

They must live in an utter vacuum, otherwise they'd know how ridiculous they sound.

[Solly Mack]

36. What a crock of self-serving shit.

Ignorance and more ignorance.