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Judi Lynn

(160,448 posts)
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 01:29 AM Mar 2019

Denver high school changes policy allowing Black History event opt-out

Source: ABC News


George Washington faced fierce backlash over its assembly opt-out policy.

By Karma Allen 54m ago

A Denver high school reversed a controversial policy on Thursday that allowed students to opt out of attending a Black History Month assembly.

Officials at George Washington High School told ABC News parents no longer will be allowed to prevent their children from attending individual assemblies amid backlash over its decision to let students opt out of an upcoming black history celebration in March.

"Effective immediately we are eliminating the assembly opt-out policy and all students will attend educational assemblies at GW," Kristin Waters, the school's principal, said in a statement. "As we continue the important work of dismantling systemic racism, segregation, and inequity in education, and specifically at George Washington High School, we appreciate our community holding us accountable.

"To expand the perspectives and learning opportunities for all of our students, it is counter-productive to promote the opportunity to opt-out of an assembly examining any part of history, culture, or current events."

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/denver-high-school-policy-allowing-black-history-event/story?id=61397885

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Denver high school changes policy allowing Black History event opt-out (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2019 OP
Good. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #1
Yes i have a few friends who graduated from the IB program The Truth Is Here Mar 2019 #14
I disagree. JohnnyRingo Mar 2019 #2
How are these things you're (I assume) making up remotely parallel to this assembly? caraher Mar 2019 #3
I'm sure it's an edifying program. JohnnyRingo Mar 2019 #6
There should be credit. It should be considered US History, because it is. Marcuse Mar 2019 #17
Also, if the school held MAGA/creationist events... caraher Mar 2019 #4
Exactly... hlthe2b Mar 2019 #11
I think I see your point. ananda Mar 2019 #7
Teaching tolerance starts at home. JohnnyRingo Mar 2019 #8
Do you also "opt out" of vaccinations? PSPS Mar 2019 #9
I wouldn't let my kids opt out of vaccinations JohnnyRingo Mar 2019 #18
You are correct. "Mandatory" can be misused easily. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #12
Then YOU are part of the problem obamanut2012 Mar 2019 #15
Which problem am I a part of? JohnnyRingo Mar 2019 #19
Personally I wish they had an opt out ability for any assembly back when I was in school as cstanleytech Mar 2019 #5
It's disgraceful that they allowed an opt-out in the first place. jcmaine72 Mar 2019 #10
This is my HS!!!! The Truth Is Here Mar 2019 #13
Schools are for learning, so opting out rather defeats the purpose. Panich52 Mar 2019 #16
In Looking At RobinA Mar 2019 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Mar 2019 #21

PatrickforO

(14,558 posts)
1. Good.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 01:56 AM
Mar 2019

George has no business allowing students to opt out black history assemblies. It's a really good school with a regionally known International Baccalaureate Diploma Program, strong arts and athletics and solid academics. Not only that, but Denver Public Schools is known for good special needs programming, particularly for the deaf.

 

The Truth Is Here

(354 posts)
14. Yes i have a few friends who graduated from the IB program
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:23 AM
Mar 2019

It is definitely a standard of excellence there.

JohnnyRingo

(18,614 posts)
2. I disagree.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:10 AM
Mar 2019

Not because it's a Black History assembly on this most significant month, but because I'm a little more libertarian when it comes to my kids (grand kids) in public school. My wife & I often resorted to the mantra "they're my kids, not the school's" back in the day. Having said that, I'd advise my kid to attend in this case. Otherwise, I'd like final decision on extracurricular activities.

Next could be mandatory "Creator Awareness Assemblies" and MAGA rally viewing.

no.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
3. How are these things you're (I assume) making up remotely parallel to this assembly?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:22 AM
Mar 2019

The key point in the school's reversal is in this quote:

"... it is counter-productive to promote the opportunity to opt-out of an assembly examining any part of history, culture, or current events."


The school planned an assembly whose purpose is to highlight a facet of US history. Sounds like a sufficiently academic goal (examining history, culture or current events) to me.

You seem to be suggesting that examining race and its role in US history is somehow parallel with pushing religion or a political point of view. It's certainly possible to co-opt a Black history event for a partisan or improper purpose, but there is nothing in the article to suggest that had happened.

This is a chance for kids to become informed about facets of their nation's history that they might otherwise be unaware of (particularly if they have the sorts of parents who would be eager to sign an opt-out form).

JohnnyRingo

(18,614 posts)
6. I'm sure it's an edifying program.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:34 AM
Mar 2019

I just oppose the word mandatory for non curricular activities, including football games and pep rallies. Unless there's a credit involved I think it should be voluntary. Perhaps you prefer to take such choices away from your child and defer to the administration to decide what's best, but you could require that as a parent without school intervention.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
4. Also, if the school held MAGA/creationist events...
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:27 AM
Mar 2019

an event "opt-out" would be the last thing on my mind. I'd focus more on getting those responsible fired.

ananda

(28,833 posts)
7. I think I see your point.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:44 AM
Mar 2019

I’m thinking of the necessity of upholding an individual’s
right not to salute the flag, and protesters’ right to
occupy a space or workers’ rights to strike and bargain .
And voters’ rights ....

It’s a slippery slope when you force an attendance when
your cause is righteous although we must also have laws
and enforcement in place to uphold civil and voting rights
and to allow women safe access to healthcare.

Institutional racism is a real problem and children do need
access to good information and discussion on it. There’s no
easy answer here.. But fascists would be able to project
fascism on the “good guys” for mandatory attendance and
use it to justify even worse policies from their end, which
they have been doing anyway for awhile... and I really
hate fascism.

JohnnyRingo

(18,614 posts)
8. Teaching tolerance starts at home.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:55 AM
Mar 2019

I don't imagine forcing a child into an auditorium does anything to counter what's burned into the heart. I also believe attendance would be higher than school officials seem to fear. Social pressure is more powerful than overbearing rules that would cause resentment.

This requirement could be one step forward and two steps back.

PSPS

(13,577 posts)
9. Do you also "opt out" of vaccinations?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:17 AM
Mar 2019

"Black History Month" is an important part of an education. Sure, they're your kids and all, but the rest of society will have to live with them for, I hope, many years after you shed your mortal coil. The mere act of "opting out" of such a thing would leave a lasting and horrible impression on the child.

JohnnyRingo

(18,614 posts)
18. I wouldn't let my kids opt out of vaccinations
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:16 AM
Mar 2019

I wouldn't let them opt out of this assembly either. I stressed that in my post, but I don't think it should be mandatory.

Vaccinations are a health issue. That should be required to avoid a deadly epidemic.

oldsoftie

(12,486 posts)
12. You are correct. "Mandatory" can be misused easily.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:20 AM
Mar 2019

And depending on WHO is doing the assembly, who knows how a presentation is done? There are dozens of different ways to present the same topic. Some are going to be more biased in one way than others.

cstanleytech

(26,224 posts)
5. Personally I wish they had an opt out ability for any assembly back when I was in school as
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:29 AM
Mar 2019

I really, really hate large crowds and every time they had any major events it would trigger a major vomit (think the green pea soup scene from the exorcist) inducing migraine.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
10. It's disgraceful that they allowed an opt-out in the first place.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:24 AM
Mar 2019

Attendance for such things should be made mandatory.

 

The Truth Is Here

(354 posts)
13. This is my HS!!!!
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:21 AM
Mar 2019

I graduated there in 1993. Chauncey Billups two years later. Fine school. Loved my time there, very diverse.

RobinA

(9,884 posts)
20. In Looking At
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 01:53 PM
Mar 2019

the article it seems like they were allowed to opt out of any assembly. I would say that this is not what education is about. If you don't like the assembly you sit there with a glazed look in your eye thinking about what you will do on the upcoming weekend. Don't people learn anything in school these days? Part of the hysteria in the current era is that people seem to think they should be protected from viewpoints with which they do not agree. It's almost like people imagine that anything they don't agree with will infect them somehow and a foreign viewpoint has become like a cloud of secondhand smoke. Suck it up, snowflakes. You can't argue with a position if you don't know what its proponents are saying.

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