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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 05:15 AM Mar 2019

Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 crashes near Addis Ababa

Source: CNN

(CNN)An Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 heading to the Kenyan capital Nairobi has crashed near Addis Ababa, the airline said on Sunday morning.

The plane, a Boeing 737-800MAX with flight number ET 302, lost contact soon after taking off at 08:38 am local time from Bole International Airport in the Ethiopian capital, the airline said in a press statement. It went down around around Bishoftu, south east of Addis Ababa. The airline believes there were 149 passengers and 8 crew members on board.

"At this time search and rescue operatons are in progress and we have no confirmed information about survivors or any possible causalities."

"Ethiopian Airlines staff will be sent to the accident scene and will do everything possible to assist the emergency services," the airline added.

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Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/10/africa/ethiopia-airline-crash-nairobi-intl/index.html



Hoping for the best...
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Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 crashes near Addis Ababa (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Mar 2019 OP
More links nitpicker Mar 2019 #1
BBC live updates thread nitpicker Mar 2019 #2
No survivors ananda Mar 2019 #5
Horrible news. Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #3
Oh shit... a la izquierda Mar 2019 #4
Africa has a Bad Rep when it comes to Aviation Andy Dzhubois Mar 2019 #6
isn't russia usually becsuse of weather ? JI7 Mar 2019 #7
No. Russia's airlines have a poor record..... machoneman Mar 2019 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #21
Ethiopian has generally been an exception to that rule. brooklynite Mar 2019 #8
Ethiopian has a pretty good aviation record The Truth Is Here Mar 2019 #26
I think the 737 max 8 may gave issues whistler162 Mar 2019 #27
Other countries standards for maintainance.. Maxheader Mar 2019 #9
It's not the first one. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #10
Yep... Dennis Donovan Mar 2019 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #15
The data recorder should survive. Adrahil Mar 2019 #19
Nationalities of passengers dalton99a Mar 2019 #12
18 Canadians? Tour group? Dennis Donovan Mar 2019 #13
Only one we've heard about so far is a professor from Carleton University in Ottawa. n/t OnlinePoker Mar 2019 #22
or canadians of ethiopian or Kenyan descent visiting family JI7 Mar 2019 #23
CNN: Second air disaster involving Boeing 737 MAX 8 crazytown Mar 2019 #16
Like the de Havilland Comet... Dennis Donovan Mar 2019 #17
No good news here. A photo from NYT ... marble falls Mar 2019 #18
That freaks me out gopiscrap Mar 2019 #20
Cayman Airlines suspends Max 8 operations brooklynite Mar 2019 #24
China grounds Boeing 737 MAX planes after Ethiopian air crash Eugene Mar 2019 #25
Ugh I'm flying on one this week. a la izquierda Mar 2019 #28

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
4. Oh shit...
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:18 AM
Mar 2019

I have a friend who was flying to Kenya this weekend. I’m pretty sure he made it to Kenya already but yikes.

Response to JI7 (Reply #7)

 

The Truth Is Here

(354 posts)
26. Ethiopian has a pretty good aviation record
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 11:09 PM
Mar 2019

It's not substandard. I think three or four countries stands out as the standard of African aviation, which is Nairobi, Addis Ababa, Lagos and Johannesburg in my opinion.

Maxheader

(4,371 posts)
9. Other countries standards for maintainance..
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 10:12 AM
Mar 2019

may be a problem..Though if they fly in this country they should
be certified to do so...I believe standard maintenance can be
costly...

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,389 posts)
10. It's not the first one.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 10:14 AM
Mar 2019

CNN, et al.: Ethiopian Airlines crash is second disaster involving Boeing 737-800 MAX in months

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
11. Yep...
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 10:50 AM
Mar 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX#Accidents_and_incidents

Accidents and incidents
On October 29, 2018, Lion Air Flight 610, a Boeing 737 MAX 8, crashed into the Java Sea 13 minutes after take off from Soekarno–Hatta International Airport, Jakarta, Indonesia. The flight was a scheduled domestic flight to Depati Amir Airport, Pangkal Pinang, Indonesia. All 189 onboard died. This was both the first fatal aviation accident and first hull loss of a 737 MAX. The aircraft was delivered to Lion Air just two months prior. Following the Lion Air accident, Boeing issued an operational manual guidance, advising airlines how to address erroneous cockpit readings. The crash is currently under investigation.

On March 10, 2019, Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302, a Boeing 737 MAX 8, registration ET-AVJ, crashed approximately six minutes after takeoff at 0530 UTC from Addis Ababa. The flight was a scheduled flight from Addis Ababa, Ethiopia to Nairobi, Kenya. All 149 passengers and 8 crew members on board died. At the time of the accident, the aircraft was only 4 months old. The cause of the accident is unclear as of 10th March 2019, however The Guardian reported “The flight had unstable vertical speed after takeoff", based on a tweet from flight tracking service Flightradar24.


Both right after departure. Hope there was enough left to pinpoint the cause.

Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #11)

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
19. The data recorder should survive.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 12:31 PM
Mar 2019

They’ll want to determine if there is a common cause ASAP. I have a buddy on the incident investigation team ar Boeing... they have a team on site now.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
16. CNN: Second air disaster involving Boeing 737 MAX 8
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 11:51 AM
Mar 2019
Ethiopian Airlines crash is second disaster involving Boeing 737 MAX 8 in months

(CNN) — For the second time in less than six months, a brand-new Boeing aircraft has crashed just minutes into a flight.

All 157 people on board the Ethiopian Airlines flight from Addis Ababa that crashed on Sunday morning have died, the airline has confirmed.

The tragedy follows the Lion Air flight that went down over the Java Sea in late October, killing all 189 people on board. ...

"It's highly suspicious," said Mary Schiavo, a CNN aviation analyst and the former Inspector General of the U.S. Transportation Department. "Here we have a brand-new aircraft that's gone down twice in a year. That rings alarm bells in the aviation industry, because that just doesn't happen."


https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/10/africa/ethiopian-airlines-crash-boeing-max-8-intl/index.html




Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
17. Like the de Havilland Comet...
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 11:57 AM
Mar 2019

...new design, multiple crashes within a short period of time. I hope they get to the bottom of it.

gopiscrap

(23,747 posts)
20. That freaks me out
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 12:47 PM
Mar 2019

My wife and I were on board an Ethiopian Airline from Asmara Eritrea to Addis Ababa enroute to Newark New Jersey. Our flight out of Addis was cancelled with no explanation and we had a 25 hour ground stop. Then leaving Addis we flew to Abidjon the Ivory Coast and were held on the plane at the gate for 3 and half hours because of a mechanical problem. After the passangers (about 250) nearly revolted, they let us into the terminal and we waited another 2 hours. Finally we left and then spent 17 hours flying to Newark.

brooklynite

(94,493 posts)
24. Cayman Airlines suspends Max 8 operations
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 08:31 PM
Mar 2019
In the wake of the tragic loss of Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 on March 10, 2019, which was being operated by a Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft, Cayman Airways extends its condolences to the families and loved ones of the passengers and crew on board that flight.

"While the cause of this sad loss is undetermined at this time, we stand by our commitment to putting the safety of our passengers and crew first by maintaining complete and undoubtable safe operations, and as such, we have taken the decision to suspend operations of both our new Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft, effective from Monday March 11, 2019, until more information is received," said Cayman Airways President and CEO, Fabian Whorms.

Mr. Whorms said Cayman Airways is currently working in coordination with both the Boeing Corporation and the Civil Aviation Authority of the Cayman Islands (CAACI) to monitor the investigation into Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302.

"We offer our valued customers our continued assurance that all prudent and necessary actions required for the safe operation of our Max 8's will be accomplished before the aircraft are returned to service," he said, adding that some relatively minor, but necessary schedule and capacity changes will be needed over the next few days to manage the flight schedule in instances where the national airline may be short on available aircraft.

"We appreciate the understanding and support of our customers as we implement these changes, and apologize in advance for any inconveniences that may be caused," he said.


https://www.caymanairways.com/CALsuspendsMax8Operations

Eugene

(61,862 posts)
25. China grounds Boeing 737 MAX planes after Ethiopian air crash
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 10:50 PM
Mar 2019

Source: CNN

China grounds Boeing 737 MAX planes after Ethiopian air crash

By Ben Westcott and Serenitie Wang, CNN
Updated 0245 GMT (1045 HKT) March 11, 2019

(CNN) — The Chinese government has grounded all Boeing 737 MAX 8 jets, after an Ethiopian Airlines plane of the same model crashed shortly after take-off killing everyone onboard.

The Civil Aviation Administration of China said in a statement on Monday morning that all domestic Boeing 737 MAX 8 jets would be out of action until 6 p.m. local time, due to its principle of "zero tolerance for safety hazards."

The Ethiopian Airlines incident was second time in less than six months that a brand-new Boeing aircraft has crashed just minutes into a flight. A Lion Air Boeing 737 MAX 8 flight went down over the Java Sea in late October, killing all 189 people on board.

"Given in both air crashes, the aircrafts were newly delivered Boeing 737 MAX 8, and both accidents occur during the take-off, they share certain similarities," the administration said in a statement.

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Read more: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/10/africa/china-boeing-ethiopian-air-crash-intl/index.html

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
28. Ugh I'm flying on one this week.
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:03 AM
Mar 2019

They should all be grounded for the time being. But people over profits, right?

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