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BumRushDaShow

(128,449 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:57 PM Mar 2019

Trump issues first veto in targeting congressional rejection of his emergency declaration

Source: Washington Post



President Trump issued the first veto of his presidency Friday to secure federal money for a border wall he promised as a candidate and considers a crucial priority for reelection, capping a week of confrontation with both political parties.

“Today I am vetoing this resolution. Congress has the freedom to pass this resolution and I have the duty to veto it,” Trump said in the Oval Office.

Twelve Republicans had joined Democrats to challenge Trump over his declaration of a national emergency at the U.S.-Mexico border, which would allow the president to circumvent Congress and spend billions on wall construction. The rare rebuke from members of his own party was symbolically important, but Congress does not have the votes to overturn Trump’s veto.

“I’d like to thank all of the Great Republican Senators who bravely voted for Strong Border Security and the WALL,” Trump tweeted ahead of his veto action. “This will help stop Crime, Human Trafficking, and Drugs entering our Country. Watch, when you get back to your State, they will LOVE you more than ever before!”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-poised-to-issue-first-veto-of-his-presidency-over-emergency-declaration/2019/03/15/a8fe3a86-474c-11e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439_story.html

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Trump issues first veto in targeting congressional rejection of his emergency declaration (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 OP
Why does have broccoli in his pocket? Or is that parsley? The Genealogist Mar 2019 #1
I think they're shamrocks jmowreader Mar 2019 #2
Thanks The Genealogist Mar 2019 #5
Pot??? RKP5637 Mar 2019 #6
Damn BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #9
I doubt it jmowreader Mar 2019 #12
Yeah, he would, wouldn't he. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2019 #15
Or maybe it would calm his ass down a little The Genealogist Mar 2019 #32
is he wearing it like this? 0rganism Mar 2019 #22
Broccoli Brothers Circus littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #33
It's boogers. n/t Still In Wisconsin Mar 2019 #28
"He promised as candidate" that Mexico was going to pay for it. ZZenith Mar 2019 #3
Exactly. So fucking frustrating. SunSeeker Mar 2019 #8
Where Is The Slant? lefty2000 Mar 2019 #21
Seriously? ZZenith Mar 2019 #23
By now, I think it's assumed pretty much everyone knows he said Mexico would pay for it. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #24
I am getting very poor mileage out of every single major media outlet in this country ZZenith Mar 2019 #25
HEAR F***ING HEAR MY FRIEND ZZ! mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #27
From now on they need to lead every sentence concerning Trump with: ZZenith Mar 2019 #29
It really is UNbelievable ... media is failing hard on this one ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #31
Now what? Fight it out in the courts? NRaleighLiberal Mar 2019 #4
And the more insane he gets the more his damn cult tries to normalize it. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2019 #7
+1000 nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #34
Yes, declaring the emergency is one thing William Seger Mar 2019 #11
What are the next steps? Does this go to court and be held up while in litigation or does it mean iluvtennis Mar 2019 #10
Depends. A Court can of course put a hold on it but ultimately it will be up to SCOTUS cstanleytech Mar 2019 #13
Thanks for the reply back. And love your idea of the Nat'l Emergency for the upcoming Dem POTUS iluvtennis Mar 2019 #14
Only six? jmowreader Mar 2019 #19
I certainly would not object to that either. cstanleytech Mar 2019 #20
Tracking the legal challenges to Trump's emergency declaration billh58 Mar 2019 #16
Fingers crossed one of the lawsuits put a hold on him using any funds over what congress approved. iluvtennis Mar 2019 #17
He just vetoed the Constitution. world wide wally Mar 2019 #18
Overriding the veto is completely up to the republicans. They have the power. keithbvadu2 Mar 2019 #26
Trump: "... they will LOVE you more than ever before." area51 Mar 2019 #30
The president of stoopid. Jazz hands deluxe. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #35

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
5. Thanks
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:07 PM
Mar 2019

If he was carrying broccoli around, I'd know hed finally and totally flipped his lid. Hed never eat that.

BumRushDaShow

(128,449 posts)
9. Damn
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:22 PM
Mar 2019

Was gonna say the same thing but then had to go do something and came back to the 'puter and saw your post!

ZZenith

(4,115 posts)
3. "He promised as candidate" that Mexico was going to pay for it.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:06 PM
Mar 2019

Why the f is the Washington Post trying to make his demand sound noble?

lefty2000

(177 posts)
21. Where Is The Slant?
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:07 PM
Mar 2019

I read the online version of the report in the Wash. Post and I didn't pick up on the effort to make Trump's action seem noble. What do you base that on?

ZZenith

(4,115 posts)
23. Seriously?
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:20 PM
Mar 2019

It’s right there in the first sentence:

President Trump issued the first veto of his presidency Friday to secure federal money for a border wall he promised as a candidate and considers a crucial priority for reelection, capping a week of confrontation with both political parties.”

Leaving out the part about how he promised that some other country would pay for his stupid promise is a rather glaring omission, donchaknow? To suggest that he’s doing it to make good on a promise he made to the American people is mendacious and leaves out some critical detail, donchathink?

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
24. By now, I think it's assumed pretty much everyone knows he said Mexico would pay for it.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:29 PM
Mar 2019

The rest of it is factually correct and I don't see it as editorializing. Your mileage may vary.

ZZenith

(4,115 posts)
25. I am getting very poor mileage out of every single major media outlet in this country
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:41 PM
Mar 2019

who have done everything in their powers to normalize this monster. The urine that has been trickling down on our heads is not rainwater, and they have been SO reluctant to inform us that it is, indeed, urine. Asparagus style urine, even.

Words mean things - they are the oxygen of the body politic and just so long as they continue to frame events in the language of normalcy we shall remain sopping wet.

Let any moderately literate adult with their finger on the pulse of events in this country -anyone who isn’t concerned with their next quarterly earnings report - rewrite this article and a different picture will emerge of exactly what this cornered rat is attempting to accomplish. You do realize he just threatened to use our military and police against his political opponents, don’t you?

I am out of patience with these media outlets who STILL, after all that’s transpired in the last several decades, try to soft pedal the situation in which we find ourselves.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
27. HEAR F***ING HEAR MY FRIEND ZZ!
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:05 PM
Mar 2019

Agree, 1000%.

Media is a friggin' joke, even the WaPo and NYT are half-way down the toilet at best.

ZZenith

(4,115 posts)
29. From now on they need to lead every sentence concerning Trump with:
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:28 PM
Mar 2019

“After threatening his political opponents with the use of the U.S. military and local police forces, President Trump today blah, blah, blah...”

I saw no mention of it in the last few issues of The Washington Post. How is this not huge fucking news?!!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
31. It really is UNbelievable ... media is failing hard on this one ...
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:12 PM
Mar 2019

I would hope at least the late-night people picked up on it but I didn't watch anything last night.

Freaking depressing.

William Seger

(10,775 posts)
11. Yes, declaring the emergency is one thing
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:27 PM
Mar 2019

... getting his tiny hands on the money to pay for his Magic Wall is another. The National Emergencies Act doesn't enable him to misappropriate money budgeted for other purposes.

iluvtennis

(19,833 posts)
10. What are the next steps? Does this go to court and be held up while in litigation or does it mean
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:24 PM
Mar 2019

that the $8 Billion he wants for the wall goes into affect immediately.

Thanks for clarifying.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
13. Depends. A Court can of course put a hold on it but ultimately it will be up to SCOTUS
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:38 PM
Mar 2019

which is currently packed with Trump leaning supporters though that might not long after the next Democratic president with a Democratic Senate majority declares a National Supreme Court Emergency and increases the number of SCOTUS from 9 to 15.
Followed of course by the Senate ramming through 6 liberal justices with a majority vote of 51 thanks to the Repugnants giving there consent to do that.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
19. Only six?
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:04 PM
Mar 2019

Young person, you are not thinking clearly enough. The next Democratic president needs to expand the Supreme Court to 19 seats. This will enable us to seat two panels - one in DC where it's always been, the other in San Francisco. The Chief Justice and his or her staff will supervise the certiorari board.

By expanding the Court so much, we can place two of the five current conservative justices on the Western Division court, and backfill both benches with good solid legal thinkers...who make Stephen Reinhardt look like Antonin Scalia.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
16. Tracking the legal challenges to Trump's emergency declaration
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:57 PM
Mar 2019
(CNN)As President Donald Trump moves forward with plans to build additional physical barriers along the southern border, his administration will have to contend with a slew of lawsuits challenging the national emergency declaration allowing him, in part, to do so.

So far, at least seven lawsuits have been filed challenging the declaration. The argument at the core of each lawsuit is similar: Trump exceeded his authority and circumvented Congress in an attempt to achieve his signature campaign promise for an emergency that, plaintiffs argue, doesn't exist.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/20/politics/national-emergency-declaration-lawsuit-tracker/index.html


Hopefully, one or more of the lawsuits will gain traction.

iluvtennis

(19,833 posts)
17. Fingers crossed one of the lawsuits put a hold on him using any funds over what congress approved.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:03 PM
Mar 2019

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
26. Overriding the veto is completely up to the republicans. They have the power.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:55 PM
Mar 2019

Overriding the veto is completely up to the republicans.

They have the power here.

A few republicans can look tough on the first vote but the override vote will tell.

They want their cake and eat it too.

area51

(11,896 posts)
30. Trump: "... they will LOVE you more than ever before."
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:39 PM
Mar 2019


How about doing something about one of the real emergencies, with 45k people dying per year due to lack of healthcare (see sig line), and tell his nazi party members to support Rep. Jayapal's bill.

littlemissmartypants

(22,569 posts)
35. The president of stoopid. Jazz hands deluxe.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:28 PM
Mar 2019

“This will help stop Crime, Human Trafficking, and Drugs entering our Country. Watch, when you get back to your State, they will LOVE you more than ever before!”

NO, IT WON'T YOU IDIOT.

Why would you want to interfere with all your side hustles, anyway?

Pres-tidigitation sit down and shut up.

Nobody cares about you.





Please forgive me, BumRushDaShow. I just needed to vent. I feel better now. Thanks.


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