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UpInArms

(51,279 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 03:43 PM Mar 2019

DOJ not sending 'principal conclusions' of Mueller report to Hill today

Source: CNN

Attorney General William Barr is not sending the "principal conclusions" of special counsel Robert Mueller's report to lawmakers Saturday, multiple congressional sources and a DOJ official tell CNN.

Barr's submission to Congress and the public is being eagerly anticipated on both sides of Pennsylvania Avenue, with lawmakers and the White House waiting to learn more about Mueller's findings.

But the waiting game will continue for at least one more day now, after Mueller submitted his report to Barr on Friday.

... snip ...

"Even if DOJ chooses not to prosecute additional individuals, the underlying findings must be provided to Congress and the American people," Pelosi wrote in a letter to House Democrats released Saturday. "The Attorney General's offer to provide the Committees with a summary of the report's conclusions is insufficient. Congress requires the full report and the underlying documents so that the Committees can proceed with their independent work, including oversight and legislating to address any issues the Mueller report may raise."

Read more: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/03/23/politics/doj-barr-mueller-report-saturday/index.html

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DOJ not sending 'principal conclusions' of Mueller report to Hill today (Original Post) UpInArms Mar 2019 OP
Seems early for anyone to be especially hubristic... RHMerriman Mar 2019 #1
I'm shocked, deeply shocked! BamaRefugee Mar 2019 #2
Why can't they just call Mueller up and tell him to stop by... cureautismnow Mar 2019 #3
It is best to have many of the answers as possible to questions first. LiberalFighter Mar 2019 #10
Because law. Igel Mar 2019 #17
And so the coverup of the coverup covering up the covered up..... Augiedog Mar 2019 #4
Barr's just waiting on tRump's approval to shine it on. Texin Mar 2019 #5
Translation: this report does not exonerate Trump. Downtown Hound Mar 2019 #6
+1 Botany Mar 2019 #8
That's my guess, too. Hugin Mar 2019 #25
We all know what is going to happen and its started already INdemo Mar 2019 #7
My guess is that they will go for that you can't indict a sitting President defense Botany Mar 2019 #9
I find it hard to believe that the Mueller team didn't write a list of the significant points toddwv Mar 2019 #11
I dont trust any Republican and that includes Mueller INdemo Mar 2019 #13
The Republicans released the entire Ken Starr report re Bill Clinton. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #12
No. Igel Mar 2019 #18
For all your fancy words, you missed the point entirely. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #22
What the hell does that mean in plain English. wasupaloopa Mar 2019 #27
That is not what happened. former9thward Mar 2019 #19
A distinction without a difference, as I said. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #23
The report is one day old. former9thward Mar 2019 #24
As has been said..if the DOJ or the WH stall or stonewall congress will subpoena mueller to testify Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #14
This makes me very happy. WhoWoodaKnew Mar 2019 #15
My first impression: kentuck Mar 2019 #16
The principal conclusions must be really bad BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #20
Barr has to first 'correct' the report? keithbvadu2 Mar 2019 #21
I think they are looking for a way to seal the report until some time in the future. It is not wasupaloopa Mar 2019 #26
"It'll take us some time to explain how it completely clears Trump and why you can't see it" struggle4progress Mar 2019 #28
Release the Full Report... What are you Worried about Reich Wing? fascisthunter Mar 2019 #29
IDK it's still strange durablend Mar 2019 #30

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
1. Seems early for anyone to be especially hubristic...
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 03:47 PM
Mar 2019

Seems early for anyone to be especially hubristic...

cureautismnow

(1,676 posts)
3. Why can't they just call Mueller up and tell him to stop by...
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 03:58 PM
Mar 2019

and tell the House what his findings were in person? Does he have an unlisted number?

Igel

(35,270 posts)
17. Because law.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 06:08 PM
Mar 2019

"At the conclusion of the Special Counsel's work, he or she shall provide the Attorney General with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions reached by the Special Counsel."

See the word "confidential"? Mueller's required to keep his report confidential. The only person that he, under the law, provides his report to is the US Attorney General.

After that, it's up to the AG in accordance with, well, law: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.9

Depending what the contents are and how they're governed by relevant law, he can decide what he wants to do with them.

Mueller is otherwise still constrained by laws concerning ethics and security, esp. since this is a "counterintelligence" investigation. https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.7

Hugin

(33,036 posts)
25. That's my guess, too.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 12:18 AM
Mar 2019

It takes awhile to chop up a report and paste all of the words together in the order President McGovernment Cheese wants them... Like an old fashioned ransom note.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
7. We all know what is going to happen and its started already
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 04:08 PM
Mar 2019

with the Corporate media..(not just Faux)
talking points scripts will be "Will/ or Are the Democrats overreaching"

and the probably Lindsey Graham will be the first to probably say "We have had two years of this and its time to move on" and then pass that Talking Point on to the White House.

Am I pretty close?

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
11. I find it hard to believe that the Mueller team didn't write a list of the significant points
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 04:45 PM
Mar 2019

I don't trust Barr even a little bit.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
13. I dont trust any Republican and that includes Mueller
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 05:37 PM
Mar 2019

Think about it even though Trump supposedly cant be indicted. If Mueller would have facts that yes Trump did commit obstruction of Justice that could be the final nail for the demise of the Republican (Trump) Party

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. The Republicans released the entire Ken Starr report re Bill Clinton.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 05:15 PM
Mar 2019

Sure, it was an independent counsel, rather than special counsel, but isn't that a distinction w/o a difference?

Igel

(35,270 posts)
18. No.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 06:17 PM
Mar 2019

The laws were rewritten to avoid some of the abuses in the '90s.

The old order was trashed. What resulted was a different set of laws.

I'm tired of arguing that a kind of reverse tu quoque is utter moral gibberish. "How can you say it's wrong if I did it when you did it, too?" at zero rationality is arguably a more rational thing to say than "you did it, too, so while I thought it was wrong before now I'm fully justified in doing it."

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
22. For all your fancy words, you missed the point entirely.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 08:29 PM
Mar 2019

I did not say or imply that releasing the Ken Starr report was wrong. I think just the opposite, in fact. (Except maybe for some redaction of the more vulgar parts, since minors could read the report or hear those parts discussed.)

The implication was that the concept of Congress's right to know the entirety of the findings, as well as the public's, was followed previously, when it was an independent counsel for a Democratic President, but not this time.

Tu quoque, indeed.

former9thward

(31,930 posts)
19. That is not what happened.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 06:21 PM
Mar 2019

The Starr report was delivered to Congress on September 9, 1998. Two days later a majority of both Democrats and Republicans voted to release the report on September 11, 1998.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starr_Report

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
23. A distinction without a difference, as I said.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 08:33 PM
Mar 2019

The point being...the report in full was delivered to Congress and released to the public.

Ironic that it was done so before, when it was to the detriment of the Democrats, but not so now. I get that different laws apply for a Special Counsel. I just mentioned that the concept (the Congress and the public's right to know) is not being adhered to this time.

former9thward

(31,930 posts)
24. The report is one day old.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 10:51 PM
Mar 2019

If you believe that a report that took two years to produce should be released instantly without checking for issues with contacts and other investigations then you are not in the real world. But you have company...

 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
20. The principal conclusions must be really bad
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 06:22 PM
Mar 2019

If they were benign, Barr would have sent them immediately.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
26. I think they are looking for a way to seal the report until some time in the future. It is not
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 12:24 AM
Mar 2019

good news for trump or the right. They do not want us to ever know what is in it until it doesn't really matter.

durablend

(7,455 posts)
30. IDK it's still strange
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:08 AM
Mar 2019

Others have said this same thing...if the report did exonerate Individual 1, why isn't he on Twitter gloating about it?

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