KKK group heavily outnumbered by counterprotesters at their own rally in Dayton

[Norbert]

Source: The Hill

A Klu Klux Klan (KKK) rally held in Dayton, Ohio, on Saturday drew only nine members to the event and hundreds of counterprotesters.

The rally was held in the center of downtown Dayton at Courthouse Square and was hosted by the Honorable Sacred Knights of Indiana, which has been identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a KKK hate group.

Though the rally, which received a permit from Montgomery County earlier this year, was slated to have 10 to 20 or more members of the group in attendance, police say only nine members showed up.

Footage captured from the rally showed the small group of memberbs stationed behind police escorts and several fences while waving KKK flags and the U.S. flag at times.

Read more: https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/445560-kkk-group-heavily-outnumbered-by-counter-protesters-at-their33

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I was hoping for a huge rain storm this afternoon but this outcome was much better.

[TygrBright]

1. Silly Indiana Kaaa-niggets!

I fart in your general direction!

amusedly,
Bright

[SergeStorms]

47. "Their mothers were hamsters...

and their fathers smelled of elderberries." Now you've done it, TygrBright. I'm going to have to watch the entire movie tonight. It's been at least 2 years or so, and that's far too long to have been without that amazing comedy. It never gets old.

[Dennis Donovan]

2. I've had to face these fuckwads too many times now...

I'm sick to death of them!

[FarPoint]

4. It was money well spent!

We protect our community here in Dayton...The threat was real....

[The Mouth]

13. A price I'm willing to pay

to make sure that *EVERYBODY* has an opportunity to speak to anyone who cares to listen. I don't have to like it, but the right of even the loathsome to free speech is sacred, always and in every circumstance, no matter who is offended. the ONLY exceptions should ever be defamation of character and incitement to riot.

[Chin music]

14. You paid it? Ok.

I hear what you're saying. But, once you allow white supremacists to be on the same level as other protests, then I suppose you reap what you sow. Some other platform was denied a permit, so 7 people could stand around w their faces covered, w pistols etc. There has to be a limit. Time place and other restrictions...like...keep your damn guns at home, and if you're leading the protest, uncover your faces. Pretty sure the police on the rooftops got good clear shots of the normal people below. How's it fair to the masses doing the right thing?
PS...I THOUGHT THERE WERE NO "DO OVERS" In trump world? I hope that includes the Civil War. Yo Confederates...you lost.

[The Mouth]

17. Yes. EVERYBODY on the same level

no matter the cost, no matter the message, no matter the offense someone else takes in the message or the inconvenience to anyone. Ever. In any circumstances. No exceptions except those of defamation and incitement. YMMV, but I'll fight to the death for the right of even those who hate me to speak, I consider it that sacred.

[The Mouth]

23. Police protection for every protest

Now I do quite agree with you that NO ONE should be allowed to protest, or do such things anonymously. I am not cool with face coverings, not hoods, nor any such. Doxx 'em, hell put your local Klansman on the front page of the paper so no one hires them. The concomitant to societal protection of even highly repugnant positions should be that those protected have to own up to society's opinion of their views. Hell the originators of Democracy, the Greeks, did ALL their voting in public. Everybody (well, OK, all free males, but you have to start somewhere) voted on nearly everything, and you had to do it in front of everyone else!

I don't like what these bastards say and stand for. I DO want the right to speak and stand for something even if 999 out of 1000 people find it fucking repulsive.

[treestar]

48. How could this be done

Without violating the First Amendment? It is worth the bill. Why let them play the victim!

[DBoon]

19. because even stupid mean people deserve their constitutional rights

Free speech isn't just for intelligent compassionate people.

[The Mouth]

21. Not unless I, and I alone

get to determine what intelligent and compassionate mean

[FarPoint]

24. Blah, blah blah

"You know nothing Jon Snow"

[pazzyanne]

10. I applaud you for standing up for your community.

Every community needs to do this.

[George II]

5. The Hill has deleted that article, here's one from the Cincinnati Enquirer:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/05/25/dayton-kkk-rally-police-keep-kkk-members-and-counterprotesters-apart/1234769001/

[zentrum]

11. The video

....still exists on the right side of the The Hill despite the "error" message at the top of the page. Which is where I watched the video.

[mobeau69]

30. Who are these people and are their weapons real? If so, loaded?

You'd think that would have gotten the cops attention.

Link to tweet

[sheshe2]

26. Links up.

It was copied wrong.

Here:

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/445560-kkk-group-heavily-outnumbered-by-counter-protesters-at-their

[Maxheader]

6. Tiger woods...take note...

Racism is epidemic..and the idiot you shook hands with promotes it...

[Skittles]

9. yes

I was happy to see Tiger make a comeback - it was very impressive - but he utterly spoiled it by sucking up to Trump - disgusting

[Skittles]

8. bad link?

thank you Ohioans

[sheshe2]

27. Here is the correct one.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/445560-kkk-group-heavily-outnumbered-by-counter-protesters-at-their

[Billy Ray Joe Bob.]

12. Nazis

My father was proud to kill Nazis in WW2 and It was our government policy and should be again. Some say love is the answer. Show a Nazi love and they will show you a gas chamber. If my father was alive today and saw some asshole parading around with a swastika flag he would put a bullet in that punks brain. You don't bargain with Nazis. Nazis are for killing.

[Jedi Guy]

22. I'm not sure how to tell you this, but...

A lot of the fellows your father served with probably held racist views not too dissimilar from the jackwagons who were protesting today. Racist views back then were not uncommon. Your father might not have held them, but I guaran-damn-tee you a fair chunk of his fellow soldiers did.

And in your hypothetical scenario, your father shooting one of these jackwagons in the head would be murder. You don't get to kill people just because you find their views or politics abhorrent. They have the same rights to free speech that you and I do.

[Billy Ray Joe Bob.]

25. Ok

Well thought out response. My father was a racist as a young man but was lucky to have experienced a transition where he became not racist. He hated facists and watched his friends die fighting them. For sure I can't speak for him as he is dead and you are right it would be murder to kill a Nazi under today's terms. But sometimes you must STAND against evil. In my opinion Nazis or those that support them are evil. Thanks for your opinion.

[argyl]

29. Welcome to DU.

[Jedi Guy]

37. I'm very sorry to hear that your father is no longer with us.

I'm also glad that he grew and changed as a person later in his life. I think sometimes we forget that people can grow and change and shed hateful views. Just because someone was a racist once doesn't mean they will always and forever be a racist. We are all capable of evolving.

Regarding standing against evil, let's just say that my signature line makes my thoughts on the matter clear. If we just start attacking and/or killing people because we dislike how they think, I don't think that's a good thing. Quite apart from the chaos and bloodshed, it'd set an awful precedent.

Welcome to DU, by the way! Thank you for your thoughtful and respectful response.

[Billy Ray Joe Bob.]

39. Sure thing

My father lived in a differant time. But facism still exists. Sometimes violence is a reality to stop evil. Without violence we would not of defeated the facist Japenese and Germans. I'm for peace and wish we could have very large sit downs with a million people surrounding the Senate and white house. Just sit down and shut it down. As to my father if he was at a Nazi ralley all bets would be off as that was his reality. Thanks for the discussion.

[Dawson Leery]

15. Trump supporters were never the majority of Americans.

This proves it.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

16. Good to hear

[James48]

20. Nine showed up

And what they weren’t telling you is that four of the nine that showed up were actually F.B.I. Agents, or State Troopers, infiltrating the March.

So really there were only five actual KKK guys.

[Tribalceltic]

36. Well Actually

3 of those five are independent journalists writing a story on the KKK. One of the others only went because he got paid $50.

(ok maybe I do live in another world but hey I like it here)

[mcar]

28. Nine? Nine?

[Hoyt]

31. It's not the KKK we have to worry about, it's those who vote for the trumps, mcconnells, white wing

governors, and other ignorant white wingers.

[Billy Ray Joe Bob.]

40. Yes but

30 years of fox news and right wing hate radio have done their job. The hate is instilled and the brainwash is complete. They will always vote R BECAUSE they cannot do otherwise. I wish I had an answer but the big money controls the media which controls the masses.

[Hoyt]

41. Don't think it's the media. One has to be susceptible to FOX, etc., hatred to buy it.

[guillaumeb]

33. 9 members is 9 too many.

I would guess that all 9 also wear MAGA hats when they are not wearing white hoods.

[shenmue]

34. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaa, lonely fucking assholes

[radical noodle]

35. I have a family member in Dayton

who has posted photos of signs protesting the KKK rally. Even the city buses had signs that said United Against Hate and there was also the photo of a building with a sign saying Hate is Not Welcome Here. I think the city rose to the occasion.

[47of74]

42. Fuck these Kluxers

[orleans]

43. i'm getting a "page not found/404" message

so here's a link to the article in time

http://time.com/5596103/kkk-rally-dayton-ohio/

[Mc Mike]

46. Get your hatin' out of Dayton.

Good article, thanks orleans.

[truthisfreedom]

44. The hill doesn't have a klu

It’s ku klux klan for fux sakes.

And the page moved.

And it’s still misspelled.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/445560-kkk-group-heavily-outnumbered-by-counter-protesters-at-their

[Hekate]

45. I know a guy who was there! Bumped into his lady friend tonight out here in California...

...and she told us what she knew up to that point, which was that NAACP was there, Black Lives Matter, and the Wobblies (IWW). He's a Wobblie. She did not know how tiny the KKK turnout was, so I'm sure she'll be as tickled as I am when she finds out.

[yardwork]

49. That's a conservative region, too.

[calimary]

50. Wow - nine whole people.