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Judi Lynn

(160,525 posts)
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 05:43 AM Jul 2019

Police fist bump MAGA fan Proud Boys member and escort far-right group through DC streets after 4th

Source: Independent

Group which supports Donald Trump chanted ‘blue lives matter’ and scuffled with communist group outside White House

Harry Cockburn
8 minutes ago

US Independence Day celebrations were marked by violent clashes in Washington DC on Thursday where far-left and far-right groups scuffled with each other and several people were arrested.

The Proud Boys, a men’s-only far-right group with ties to white supremacy organisations and which supports Donald Trump, fought with far-left group the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA, outside the White House after the communist group burnt American flags.

The far-right group was seen being escorted through the streets of the capital by police officers, and at one point were filmed chanting “blue lives matter”, in support of the police. Blue Lives Matter is a counter-movement to the Black Lives Matter movement, which campaigns against systemic violence and racism against black people.

A member of the Proud Boys was filmed walking down a police-lined road, apparently fist-bumping several officers.

According to journalist Ford Fischer, who witnessed and filmed the clashes and the police fist-bumping the member of the far-right group, three communists were arrested, with one let go immediately.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/4th-of-july-proud-boys-police-fourth-washington-dc-clashes-communist-a8989331.html

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Police fist bump MAGA fan Proud Boys member and escort far-right group through DC streets after 4th (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2019 OP
as much as I dislike the Proud babies Maine-i-acs Jul 2019 #1
I agree. It is likely to diffuse a situation. 3Hotdogs Jul 2019 #2
and leaving a fist bump 'hanging' (unanswered) Maine-i-acs Jul 2019 #3
Police should stay neutral. NEOBuckeye Jul 2019 #5
It IS an endorsement, no question about it. Merlot Jul 2019 #9
yes, disgraceful behavior by police in this instance onetexan Jul 2019 #33
if they would have done it with any other citizen on their beat Maine-i-acs Jul 2019 #17
In this particular instance, did the police fist-bump "both good and bad eggs alike?" LanternWaste Jul 2019 #36
And this is precisely why many fear the police and why they're requested to leave establishments.. jcmaine72 Jul 2019 #27
NO it is NOT OK for police to play patty cake with neo-Nazis Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #12
there's no limit to that? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2019 #18
No it isn't. If you work in government, it is in your job description to remain politically neutral meadowlander Jul 2019 #19
No, it's not. There's also a difference between working a beat and working an event. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #30
The FBI reported The Wizard Jul 2019 #4
+1 dalton99a Jul 2019 #8
Amazing. Your post is #2 after Wikipedia on Google for "Grand Kliegle", greyl Jul 2019 #20
Grand Kliegle is a The Wizard Jul 2019 #22
My theory is HootieMcBoob Jul 2019 #6
Your theory does not match up with reality. Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #13
Hope you're being facetious. Duppers Jul 2019 #21
I thought the woman with the pink mega hat INdemo Jul 2019 #7
Communists! Bayard Jul 2019 #10
make no mistake about it, tRump has the backing of at least 2/3rds police & military if he yaesu Jul 2019 #11
Where do those statistics come from? nt fleabiscuit Jul 2019 #32
99% of statistics on the Internet are made up. Jedi Guy Jul 2019 #34
... fleabiscuit Jul 2019 #35
I knew there would be Russians at the Traitor Trump parade Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #14
Called it!!!! Initech Jul 2019 #15
If it weren't so monstrous to have such an evil President it would be easier to say it's amazing Judi Lynn Jul 2019 #16
These groups may have been around b.s... Maxheader Jul 2019 #23
2 dozen Dallas officers disciplined over offensive posts Scurrilous Jul 2019 #24
And the #DumpStarbucks people are dumbfounded why we're uncomfortable around police... Initech Jul 2019 #25
Yep. Scurrilous Jul 2019 #26
Holy shit!!! Initech Jul 2019 #28
Insane In The Membrane Bonzo Beat Jul 2019 #29
ACAB. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #31

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
2. I agree. It is likely to diffuse a situation.
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 07:13 AM
Jul 2019

As long as it doesn't escalate to favored protection of one group.

NEOBuckeye

(2,781 posts)
5. Police should stay neutral.
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 07:58 AM
Jul 2019

This makes it seem like the Police were endorsing the Proud Boys. I don't see how this is acceptable under any circumstances.

Maine-i-acs

(1,499 posts)
17. if they would have done it with any other citizen on their beat
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 04:13 PM
Jul 2019

then it's OK.
I see police in parades high fiving all along the route, they inevitably high-fived both good and bad eggs alike.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
36. In this particular instance, did the police fist-bump "both good and bad eggs alike?"
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 02:25 PM
Jul 2019

It seems a rather more relevant data point from which to draw a conclusion than mere anecdotal experiences.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
27. And this is precisely why many fear the police and why they're requested to leave establishments..
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 09:46 PM
Jul 2019

Last edited Sun Jul 7, 2019, 12:14 AM - Edit history (1)

...like Starbucks at the request of customers. No, it's not every police officer or police department, but enough are far right in their thinking and culture to instill fear. That's the polar opposite of what their purported duties are, yes?

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
12. NO it is NOT OK for police to play patty cake with neo-Nazis
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 12:25 PM
Jul 2019

It is not the job of the police to support neo-Nazis. The same type of ideology my father and my uncles fought against in WWII.

"Another photojournalist, Zach Roberts, said police directed the Proud Boys (Nazi boys) to a conservative bar and joined them in their chant: “I like beer”

Yup the fist bumps and patty cake led to a drinking game with Nazis. How special. Notice the only people arrested were on the liberal side. Not because the Nazis didn't start any fights, but because the police are fed Nazi propaganda. I'm sure the Russians are real happy with our police siding with Nazi boys.

It's never OK for the police to take sides.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
18. there's no limit to that?
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 08:02 PM
Jul 2019

Proud boys is okay for a publicly funded officer to fist bump? What about a hood wearing KKK? Nazi armband wearing torch holding cowards marching in their jack boots?

Sorry but while I agree with the premise of being friendly with a protest crowd, there's a limit to who a peace officer should be endorsing with a fist bump.

meadowlander

(4,394 posts)
19. No it isn't. If you work in government, it is in your job description to remain politically neutral
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 11:22 PM
Jul 2019

at least in any situation where your actions could reflect on the attitude of your employer and give any member of the public reason to think that you aren't going to treat them fairly.

When I worked in government, I would have been written up at my job for driving a car with a Clinton 2016 bumper sticker on site visits where any member of the public could tell that I was "at work" at the time... let alone fist bumping fucking Nazis while I was in uniform.

Absolutely shameful misconduct which shows that the dumbass doing it does not understand fundamental parts of his job responsibilities.

The Wizard

(12,542 posts)
4. The FBI reported
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 07:55 AM
Jul 2019

right wing extremists joining law enforcement a few years back. To this day, in many slave states, the Sheriff is also the Grand Kliegle.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
20. Amazing. Your post is #2 after Wikipedia on Google for "Grand Kliegle",
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 11:25 PM
Jul 2019

and Google knows Grand Wizard of the KKK is related.

About 170,000 results (0.46 seconds)

Did you mean: Grand Kleagle

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HootieMcBoob

(3,823 posts)
6. My theory is
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 08:51 AM
Jul 2019

The Revolutionary Communist Party exists primarily to increase the ratings of the Fox News Channel.

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
13. Your theory does not match up with reality.
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jul 2019

"The Revolutionary Communist Party, USA (or Revcom) is a communist party in the United States founded in 1975 and led by its chairman Bob Avakian. The party organizes for a revolution in the United States, to overthrow the system of capitalism and replace it with a new socialist republic, with the final aim of world communism.

Since the 2000s, Bob Avakian's new synthesis of communism is the RCP's ideological framework, which it considers a scientific advancement of Marxism–Leninism–Maoism. Prior to this, the party was a founding member of the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement. The RCP has drafted a Constitution for the New Socialist Republic, to replace the U.S. after a revolution.

The RCP is notable for its various coalition groups, such as the World Can't Wait, Stop Patriarchy, October 22 Coalition to Stop Police Brutality, Stop Mass Incarceration Network, and Refuse Fascism."

Not that I think Maoist are all that great. If anything, I suspect China might have a hand in this group. As Russia has a hand in the Nazi boys.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
7. I thought the woman with the pink mega hat
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 09:58 AM
Jul 2019

Last edited Fri Jul 5, 2019, 03:16 PM - Edit history (1)

with Donald Trumps name on the back, right above her pony tail, says it all
"Donald Trump is a horses ass" check it out"

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
11. make no mistake about it, tRump has the backing of at least 2/3rds police & military if he
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 12:11 PM
Jul 2019

decides to overstay his welcome.

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
14. I knew there would be Russians at the Traitor Trump parade
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 12:51 PM
Jul 2019

"The recent rise of the white nationalists of the alt-right. Again, the movement has deep ties with Russia and the 2014-2015 time frame is key.

Putin has promoted an image of himself as the leader of a global white ethnonationalist movement since at least 2012. This coincides with his campaign for his third term as president, when he wanted to project an image of Russia not only as a military power, but also a civilizational model and defender of traditional values that was deserving of international respect.63

According to a profile in The Atlantic of Andrew Anglin—the founder of The Daily Stormer who espouses views sympathetic to the Kremlin—spent 2014 and 2015 in Europe and Russia."

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/security/reports/2018/10/03/458841/origins-russias-broad-political-assault-united-states/

Folks should read the entire report about Russian involvement in US politics.......Did you know Putin has reached out to the evangelical community: " In this period, Putin began building and strengthening existing ties with leaders from another group that is highly influential in American conservative politics: the evangelical movement."

Judi Lynn

(160,525 posts)
16. If it weren't so monstrous to have such an evil President it would be easier to say it's amazing
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 02:17 PM
Jul 2019

a Russian President could engineer could arrange the seduction of the very same element in this country which used to be the ones who shrieked and pointed at everyone they hated, and branded him/her as a "commie" or a "commie sympathizer" or at least a "pinko," hoping to damn him/her in the eyes of the world.

It would seem like the ultimate payback. He has made profound fools of them all. In the meantime, they are so twisted they finally couldn't care less, or are too stupid to understand, and the sane U.S. citizens are the ones who are paying the price for their treachery.

Thank you for this information.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
23. These groups may have been around b.s...
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 06:39 PM
Jul 2019

'before stumpy'....but I blame the yellow haired idiot for stirring the pot and liking it too...

"See what I did?"...The p.o.s. lurves to play with power...

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
24. 2 dozen Dallas officers disciplined over offensive posts
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 07:58 PM
Jul 2019

<snip>

"Dallas police officials say more than two-dozen officers face disciplinary measures after they were found to have posted bigoted or other offensive material to social media in violation of the department's code of conduct, including mocking protesters who were pepper-sprayed..

Officials announced Friday an internal review determined that 25 officers posted or shared objectionable material.

Four of those officers have been placed on administrative leave because of the extreme nature of their posts.

The findings come after The Plain View Project last month released a database cataloging thousands of bigoted or violent posts by police officers in several states."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dozen-dallas-officers-disciplined-offensive-posts-64167463

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