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BumRushDaShow

(128,892 posts)
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 08:42 AM Jul 2019

U.S. Economy Grew by 2.1% in Second Quarter

Source: New York Times

Economic growth slowed last spring, but don’t panic — the decade-long expansion has lost some momentum, but there’s little reason to think it is about to stall out.

Gross domestic product, the broadest measure of goods and services produced in the economy, rose at a 2.1 percent annual rate in the second quarter, the Commerce Department said Friday. That represents a significant deceleration from the 3.1 percent growth rate in the first quarter.

But the big swings in the quarterly data are almost certainly exaggerated. The larger trend shows that the economy has cooled since last year, when tax cuts and government spending gave growth a temporary jolt. But the strong job market and robust consumer spending are keeping the recovery on track, even as trade tensions and a slowing global economy are threatening to knock it off course.

In addition to its estimate of second-quarter growth, the Commerce Department also revised G.D.P. data back to 2014. Such updates, which take place every summer, incorporate new data from the Internal Revenue Service, the Census Bureau and other sources that weren’t available when initial estimates were released.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/26/business/economy/gdp-economy.html



Under Obama, this type of figure was considered by the right as "anemic".
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U.S. Economy Grew by 2.1% in Second Quarter (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 OP
What happened to the 1.8% watoos Jul 2019 #1
Don't worry, it will be revised downward next month OnlinePoker Jul 2019 #6
Do headline writers deliberately obfuscate? Lonestarblue Jul 2019 #19
BEA release. And job growth deceleration (from the BLS report 3 weeks ago) progree Jul 2019 #2
Thanks for your usual great analysis!!! BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #3
Thanks :-) And we have the July jobs report to look forward to, just one week from today n/t progree Jul 2019 #4
Yup. Although sometimes when the 1st falls too close to or on a Friday they wait a week. BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #5
Not this time -- it's August 2 progree Jul 2019 #7
Okay cool (so I'll know to get ready to make a LBN thread then if I can beat folks to the punch) BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #8
I will definitely be looking forward to that (frantically refreshing the home page around 830 AM ET) progree Jul 2019 #12
LOL BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #14
Focusing on the economy when temperatures worldwide are at all-time highs Ponietz Jul 2019 #9
This is a regular reporting from a government agency that my taxpayer dollars pay for. BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #10
Good morning. From the WaPo and the Bureau of Economic Analysis: mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2019 #11
Good morning and TGIF! BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #13
"Revisions showed that GDP grew just 2.5% in 2018 over the year prior" progree Jul 2019 #15
"Wasn't 2018 the first full year of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) ?" BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #16
Reuters - "may well irk a commander-in-chief" progree Jul 2019 #17
Council of Economic Advisers: Boeing Ate My Homework mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2019 #18
To me, the economy has not really improved since the 2nd term of Bill Clinton Yavin4 Jul 2019 #20

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
6. Don't worry, it will be revised downward next month
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 09:24 AM
Jul 2019

Last quarter it was 3.2% then revised down to 3.1%. Of course, the revision will be off-cycle so nobody will pay attention to it then.

Lonestarblue

(9,978 posts)
19. Do headline writers deliberately obfuscate?
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 01:12 PM
Jul 2019

Growth in the 1st quarter was 3.1% (though announced as 3.2% at the time), so growth this quarter slowed. Why can’t they just say it slowed? Still trying to court favor with Trump?

progree

(10,901 posts)
2. BEA release. And job growth deceleration (from the BLS report 3 weeks ago)
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 08:53 AM
Jul 2019

The Bureau of Economic Analysis link (also shows a bar graph of GDP increases from Q3 2015 onward. Wish it went back further
https://www.bea.gov/news/2019/gross-domestic-product-2nd-quarter-2019-advance-estimate-and-annual-update


To me, it's not surprising that there has been a deceleration in GDP, for example:

Job growth has already slowed down in 2019 so far.
Summary: Average monthly net new jobs created
221,000    Obama's last 29 months
194,000    Trump's 29 months (February 2017 through June 2019)
172,000    2019 so far (January through June)
144,000    February through June 2019
More: https://www.democraticunderground.com/111685907


And yes yes, the unemployment rate is at about 50 year lows, but note that the prime age (25-54) labor force participation rate is below the pre-Great Recession average, going back to about 1987.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12256909

Stock market (S&P 500): As of Thursday's close, is only up 4.6% over the past year and a half (since the Jan 26, 2018 close of 2873).

progree

(10,901 posts)
12. I will definitely be looking forward to that (frantically refreshing the home page around 830 AM ET)
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:09 AM
Jul 2019

next Friday

Ponietz

(2,963 posts)
9. Focusing on the economy when temperatures worldwide are at all-time highs
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 09:44 AM
Jul 2019

Seems like palliative care for a humanity that has consigned itself to hospice.

BumRushDaShow

(128,892 posts)
10. This is a regular reporting from a government agency that my taxpayer dollars pay for.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 09:46 AM
Jul 2019

I.e., it is independent from what is happening with the climate (although certainly the figures can, have, and will continue to be impacted by the climate).

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,413 posts)
11. Good morning. From the WaPo and the Bureau of Economic Analysis:
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:00 AM
Jul 2019
Economy

U.S. economy slowed in the spring but remains healthy, expanding at a 2.1% annual rate

By Heather Long
Economics correspondent
July 26 at 9:03 AM

The U.S. economy slowed in the spring but continues to grow at a healthy pace that shows little sign of a recession. ... The economy expanded at a 2.1 percent annual rate from April through June, the U.S. Commerce Department said, a downgrade from the first quarter’s surprisingly strong 3.1 percent pace.

Consumer spending accounted for the bulk of U.S. growth as Americans bought heavily again in the spring. Business spending dried up, however, turning negative for the first time since early 2016. Many executives blame uncertainty around President Trump’s trade war for their hesitancy to spend as much as they did a year ago.

“Last year was a fiscal sugar rush. This year it’s starting to fade,” said Michael Feroli, chief U.S. economist at J.P. Morgan.
....

The Commerce Department also released revisions to growth statistics for the past five years, a common practice that government statisticians and economists undertake from time to time to incorporate additional data from the Internal Revenue Service and other agencies. ... The revisions showed that growth was unchanged at 2.9 percent last year, but it was slightly higher in 2017, coming in at 2.4 percent after the revisions, up from the originally reported 2.2 percent.

Heather Long is an economics correspondent. Before joining The Washington Post, she was a senior economics reporter at CNN and a columnist and deputy editor at the Patriot-News in Harrisburg, Pa. She also worked at an investment firm in London. Follow https://twitter.com/byHeatherLong

Bureau of Economic Analysis | U.S. Department of Commerce

EMBARGOED UNTIL RELEASE AT 8:30 A.M. EDT, Friday, July 26, 2019 BEA 19-36

Gross Domestic Product, Second Quarter 2019 (Advance Estimate) and Annual Update

Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased at an annual rate of 2.1 percent in the second quarter of 2019 (table 1), according to the "advance" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the first quarter, real GDP increased 3.1 percent.

The Bureau's second-quarter advance estimate released today is based on source data that are incomplete or subject to further revision by the source agency (see "Source Data for the Advance Estimate" on page 2). The "second" estimate for the second quarter, based on more complete data, will be released on August 29, 2019.



The increase in real GDP in the second quarter reflected positive contributions from personal consumption expenditures (PCE), federal government spending, and state and local government spending that were partly offset by negative contributions from private inventory investment, exports, nonresidential fixed investment and residential fixed investment. Imports, which are a subtraction in the calculation of GDP, increased (table 2).

The deceleration in real GDP in the second quarter reflected downturns in inventory investment, exports, and nonresidential fixed investment. These downturns were partly offset by accelerations in PCE and federal government spending.

Current-dollar GDP increased 4.6 percent, or $239.1 billion, in the second quarter to a level of $21.34 trillion. In the first quarter, current-dollar GDP increased 3.9 percent, or $201.0 billion (table 1 and table 3).

The price index for gross domestic purchases increased 2.2 percent in the second quarter, compared with an increase of 0.8 percent in the first quarter (table 4). The PCE price index increased 2.3 percent, compared with an increase of 0.4 percent. Excluding food and energy prices, the PCE price index increased 1.8 percent, compared with an increase of 1.1 percent.

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BumRushDaShow

(128,892 posts)
13. Good morning and TGIF!
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:10 AM
Jul 2019


This might help determine what the Fed will do with interest rates (where some keep demanding 0.5% drop but I doubt that will happen).

progree

(10,901 posts)
15. "Revisions showed that GDP grew just 2.5% in 2018 over the year prior"
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:13 AM
Jul 2019
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/what-to-expect-in-fridays-gdp-report-222140281.html
The BEA’s report Friday also included revision to GDP reports spanning back to 2014. Revisions showed that GDP grew just 2.5% in 2018 over the year prior, down from the 3% growth shown in a latest estimate.


Wasn't 2018 the first full year of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) ? The one that was going to propel us to 4% or 5% GDP growth rates as promised in the campaign?

BumRushDaShow

(128,892 posts)
16. "Wasn't 2018 the first full year of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) ?"
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:16 AM
Jul 2019

"The one that was going to propel us to 4% or 5% GDP growth rates as promised in the campaign? "

Yup. Supposed to be 4% growth and an "overheated economy" that would "pay for" the 1.5 trillion tax cuts. Yup.

progree

(10,901 posts)
17. Reuters - "may well irk a commander-in-chief"
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:45 AM
Jul 2019
U.S. economy misses Trump's 3% target in 2018, Reuters, 7/26/19

.... The department’s annual revisions to GDP data also showed the economy growing 2.5% in the 12 months through the fourth quarter of 2018, down from the previously reported 3.0%.

President Donald Trump had highlighted the year-on-year growth figure as proof that the tax cuts and a government spending blitz, which have helped to swell the federal government deficit, had put the economy on a sustainable path of strong growth.

The White House and Republicans have argued that the massive tax cuts ... would pay for themselves ...

... The downgrade to the 2018 year-on-year measure to below 3% may well irk a commander-in-chief who has been quick to blame the U.S. Federal Reserve in particular for actions he sees as stymieing his growth agenda. The Fed meets on interest rates next week, and Trump has already been jawboning policymakers to cut borrowing costs, which he says would allow the economy to take off “like a rocket ship.”


Lots more at the link https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-growth/u-s-economy-misses-trumps-3-target-in-2018-idUSKCN1UL1KP

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,413 posts)
18. Council of Economic Advisers: Boeing Ate My Homework
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 11:00 AM
Jul 2019
ECONOMY & JOBS

Strong Consumer Spending Supports Steady Growth in the Second Quarter of 2019

July 26, 2019 2 minute read

Council of Economic Advisers

Real GDP grew above market expectations in the second quarter of 2019, according to the advance estimate released this morning from the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA). Growth was particularly strong in real consumer spending, which rose 4.3 percent at an annual rate in the second quarter of 2019. This increase is notably higher than the 2.5 percent pace set in the preceding four quarters.

Though growth in the second quarter of 2019 is lower than in the first quarter, we estimate that the problems at Boeing subtracted 0.4 percentage point from second quarter annualized real growth. The sharp slowdown in aircraft shipments reduced equipment investment and exports, but were partially offset by an increase in aircraft inventory investment. Considering this issue, the strong growth set in the first quarter of 2019 of 3.1 percent and the 2.5 percent pace set in the second quarter—adjusting for Boeing’s safety problems—result in growth so far in 2019 of 2.8 percent at an annual rate. Not adjusting for Boeing’s safety problems, growth so far in 2019 of 2.6 percent at an annual rate far exceeds the growth projected by the final pre-2016 election forecasts of both the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) for 2019 (see figure). The CBO projected growth of just 1.6 percent in 2019, while the FOMC projected real growth of just 1.8 percent on a fourth-quarter-over-fourth-quarter basis.



Evaluating the most persistent and well-measured components of real GDP, real private domestic final purchases (PDFP) typically provide a better signal for next quarter’s growth. In the second quarter of 2019, PDFP grew 3.2 percent at an annual rate, above the overall GDP growth. PDFP is the sum of consumer spending and fixed investment.

In addition to the advance estimate of GDP growth in the second quarter of 2019, BEA released revisions to growth in the first quarter of 2019. Real gross domestic income growth, which measures the income-side of output, was revised up in the first quarter of 2019, more than tripling from 1 percent to 3.2 percent. Most of the upward revision was accounted for by upwardly revised figures for wages and salaries as reported from the unemployment insurance tax system.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
20. To me, the economy has not really improved since the 2nd term of Bill Clinton
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 04:36 PM
Jul 2019

It's either been in one of three stages:

1) Recession in 2000 and 2001
2) Mild recovery from 2002 to 2007
3) Deep recession from 2008 to 2012
4) Mild recovery again from 2012 to now

In sum, it's been Recession, Deep Recession, and Mild Recoveries, and most of the Recoveries have been with very sluggish wage to little wage growth, and the job growth has largely been in low-end service sectors.

I don't have the data to support my hypothesis. It's just a feeling.

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