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Judi Lynn

(160,508 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:33 AM Aug 2019

Video: Man who died during arrest cries, begs police to stop

Source: Associated Press

July 31, 2019 at 1:45 pm Updated July 31, 2019 at 4:12 pm

By The Associated Press

DALLAS (AP) — Police body camera video footage shows a man who called 911 to request help crying, pleading then going limp as arresting officers restrain him. Soon after, a paramedic says he’s dead.

Dallas police released the footage Tuesday showing the August 2016 death of 32-year-old Tony Timpa. A federal judge ordered the release of the video following requests from The Dallas Morning News and KXAS-TV.

The videos show the officers pinning Timpa to the ground and cracking jokes even as the screaming, handcuffed man suddenly becomes still and silent. Shaking his limp body the officers can be heard comparing Timpa to a child who doesn’t want to wake up for the first day of school.

Medical examiners later ruled Timpa’s death a homicide and said it was caused by cardiac arrest brought on by cocaine and the stress of physical restraint.

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'You're gonna kill me!': Dallas police body cam footage reveals the final minutes of Tony Timpa's life

Written by
Cary Aspinwall Dave Boucher

Tony Timpa wailed and pleaded for help more than 30 times as Dallas police officers pinned his shoulders, knees and neck to the ground.

“You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me!”

After Timpa fell unconscious, the officers who had him in handcuffs assumed he was asleep and didn’t confirm that he was breathing or feel for a pulse.

As precious minutes passed, the officers laughed and joked about waking Timpa up for school and making him waffles for breakfast.

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More:
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/07/30/gonna-kill-dallas-police-body-cam-footage-reveals-final-minutes-tony-timpas-life
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Video: Man who died during arrest cries, begs police to stop (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2019 OP
Laughing and joking while committing homicide DFW Aug 2019 #1
Ok, the cops customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #2
They were laughing at the drugs he had been taking at a private psychiatric hospital. Judi Lynn Aug 2019 #5
If that's how you want to justify it to yourself, by all means... LanternWaste Aug 2019 #8
+1,000 happy feet Aug 2019 #12
Excuse #487. nt zanana1 Aug 2019 #11
Ok, the cops were assholes Jake Stern Aug 2019 #13
There's a difference customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #15
Apparently there wasn't as the result was the same Jake Stern Aug 2019 #16
Did I start out by saying customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #22
Great point Watchfoxheadexplodes Aug 2019 #27
His messed-up head customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #29
You don't think that the cops full weight lavenderdiva Aug 2019 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Jake Stern Aug 2019 #19
I'm not a doctor customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #23
Disgusting... jimmil Aug 2019 #3
this is why larwdem Aug 2019 #4
Did the sedative they injected, also facilitate his death? 3Hotdogs Aug 2019 #6
It had to have. Duppers Aug 2019 #9
The scenery and techniques have changed, but the mentally ill are still regarded as sub-human Cetacea Aug 2019 #7
So friggin' sad. nt zanana1 Aug 2019 #10
Sick and sadistic officers softydog88 Aug 2019 #14
Thank you, George. Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2019 #18
The police killed this man..just as important, nothing was done to the cops that killed him. Stuart G Aug 2019 #20
Some background about another cover -up...1960s Chicago Police Cover Up Stuart G Aug 2019 #21
Kick Demovictory9 Aug 2019 #24
Back the blue!! Back the blue!!!! Back the blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jimmil Aug 2019 #25
Cops like this disgust me. They aren't all like that so we shouldn't make excuses for those who are captain queeg Aug 2019 #26
While on occaision "suicide by cop" happens, the video shows this is not one of those cases. salin Aug 2019 #28
New twist: Dallas officers: Jokes during deadly arrest were 'strategy' Judi Lynn Aug 2019 #30

DFW

(54,326 posts)
1. Laughing and joking while committing homicide
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:47 AM
Aug 2019

This always does wonders for police-community relations.....

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
2. Ok, the cops
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:54 AM
Aug 2019

were assholes, but they weren't the ones that gave him the cocaine that put him in the position of being one stressor away from a fatal heart attack

Judi Lynn

(160,508 posts)
5. They were laughing at the drugs he had been taking at a private psychiatric hospital.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:11 AM
Aug 2019

Clearly they knew he had mental problems, they named the hospital itself.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. If that's how you want to justify it to yourself, by all means...
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:02 AM
Aug 2019

Just realize no one else is going to buy it.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
13. Ok, the cops were assholes
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:41 AM
Aug 2019

But they weren't the ones who made Eric Garner morbidly obese and in the position of being one stressor away from a fatal heart attack.

See how that looks?

That was literally the excuse used in that case.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
15. There's a difference
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:33 PM
Aug 2019

between the restraints used in this case to keep a guy all hopped up on coke from hurting himself and others, and the choke hold used on Garner, which was designed to cut off his air supply.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
16. Apparently there wasn't as the result was the same
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:52 PM
Aug 2019

Can't believe a DUer is actually defending cops in this case.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
22. Did I start out by saying
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:50 PM
Aug 2019

that the cops were assholes?

If a person takes dangerous illegal drugs, then bad things sometimes happen, and they often involve law enforcement.

Would this guy be any more alive if the cops had just spoken respectably to him?

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
27. Great point
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 08:04 PM
Aug 2019

People put themselves into situations by making bad choices. Would he have had a heart attack if the cops were not dicks?

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
29. His messed-up head
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 09:37 PM
Aug 2019

caused him to get noticed by law enforcement, and they determined he needed to be restrained. Don't put yourself in the position of having a cop be a shrink, if you can help it.

lavenderdiva

(10,726 posts)
17. You don't think that the cops full weight
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 06:15 PM
Aug 2019

And his knee digging into the mans chest might have cut off his air supply? At no point until the ambulance arrives and his limp body is lifted onto the gurney, did the cop get off of the mans chest

Response to lavenderdiva (Reply #17)

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
23. I'm not a doctor
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:51 PM
Aug 2019

but a choke hold to the throat is probably going to cut off a person's ability to breathe more than a knee on the chest.

jimmil

(629 posts)
3. Disgusting...
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:59 AM
Aug 2019

I hope every officer there is charged with murder. How much damage did they think Tony could do with his arms and legs in restraints? Is putting your knee in the back of a restrained person reasonable police practice?

larwdem

(758 posts)
4. this is why
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:01 AM
Aug 2019

I hate cops they have a fascist mentality and the black flag with the blue stripe is a hate fucking flag.
In my opinion.

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
7. The scenery and techniques have changed, but the mentally ill are still regarded as sub-human
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 07:35 AM
Aug 2019

Convicted murderers get more respect. And when incarcerated, more rights.

on edit : Thank you, Barack!

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
18. Thank you, George.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:11 PM
Aug 2019

You tried for years to tell us what was going on all across this country which you traversed so many times. People thought you were joking or embellishing. You weren't.

These cops had no empathy what-so-ever for this man, yet they seemed to know that he had mental health issues. Yeah, that's hilarious.

And what I really don't understand is the EMT who administered ANYTHING while the man was face-down and unresponsive. What's THAT all about ? Someone said it was a sedative. Did he LOOK like he needed a sedative ?

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
20. The police killed this man..just as important, nothing was done to the cops that killed him.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 08:22 AM
Aug 2019

..Nothing was done to the cops that killed him. At some point they were charged, but the charges were dropped and nothing was done. A couple of days off the job, and then they were returned to normal duty.
This video would not have been made public unless the judge ordered it to be released. This is one of the most disgusting films ever released and the Dallas police have done nothing to anyone responsible.

It would not have been released if there had not been a law suit forcing this. From what I can tell, no one was fired...NO ONE.
The police force has not admitted to covering this up, which is obvious. The police chief who was in charge, is still in charge Without the court order, this would not have been made public. There is a law suit against the police department in this case, but that is still pending. So the cops that did this are on their jobs, and none of the supervisors have been punished in any way.

..Obviously this is a cover up of major proportions. Now that this has gotten national publicity, something may happen. But then again, nothing may happen. The police chief and the entire cover up crew needs to be fired, and an investigation into the cover-up needs to be initiated. The cops killed this man. It is so obvious.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
21. Some background about another cover -up...1960s Chicago Police Cover Up
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 08:37 AM
Aug 2019

..It seems that the cops were stealing some stuff and covering up. Not a big deal as big deals go, but the scandal became major, and the police chief was fired, and they brought in someone to reform and clean up the police department. The major Richard Daley, and the new police chief (Orlando Wilson?)cleaned up the department, and fired some people and instituted new rules and regulations on arrests..etc..

This story is much worse, it is not about stealing, it is about the cops killing this person, and he pleaded for his life, and said, "I can't breath"
...So will this video result in the chief of police leaving? Will it result in reform in Texas? Without this release, ordered by a judge, there would be complete cover up, with a settlement in the millions of dollars to the family.
The police chief who covered this up, must be fired. It is that simple. The cops who killed this man need to be re charged with another crime. At least this is my opinion, maybe this video will get something going. In a way this scandal is much worse than the scandal in Chicago or even Watergate...The cops killed this man, and he pleaded for his life, and said that he could not breath.
....And, the cops had the nerve to make fun of him after he passed out and died. Think about that one for a while. Also, the cops were sure they would get away with this. What a disgusting series of events. This might become a major scandal, but then again it might not. This is Texas after all.

jimmil

(629 posts)
25. Back the blue!! Back the blue!!!! Back the blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:09 PM
Aug 2019

Remember, cops have the hardest job in the world and they are there to serve and protect. Back the blue!!! Back the blue!!!!!!!! USA USA USA USA!!!!!!!!!!!

captain queeg

(10,131 posts)
26. Cops like this disgust me. They aren't all like that so we shouldn't make excuses for those who are
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:39 PM
Aug 2019

I’ve been in trouble a little as a young man and have dealt with cops occasionally in life. I think they were more mellow in the old days; there’s a lot going on nowadays but cops are too ready with excessive force any more. And there’s always a bunch of them

Absolutely no tie-in to this story but just thought of an incident when I was a teen. Grew up in a small Mayberry kind of town. Literally had the chief and one deputy who everyone compared to Barney Fife. And the chief was a bit like Andy. One day four of us were out duck hunting at he edge of town. Apparently someone in town heard the gun shots so deputy Barney came out and accosted us as we were returning to town. Reading us the riot act and threatening to arrest us. The chief showed up and came over. Checked our licenses and asked where we’d been hunting which we pointed out. He said everything across the road where we’d been hunting was outside town limits and as long as we had our licenses we were legal. We had just returned to the road to walk home, Barney was mad he couldn’t get us for anything. Before we left the chief asked if our guns were loaded and four of us started ejecting 12 gauge shells out onto the ground. Barney’s eyes got huge, I guess he realized he hadn’t really taken the precautions he ought to with such dangerous criminals. But the chief just said if we were walking home on the road we shouldn’t have loaded guns. No point other than some cops are better at diffusing situations rather than making them worse.

salin

(48,955 posts)
28. While on occaision "suicide by cop" happens, the video shows this is not one of those cases.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 08:06 PM
Aug 2019

Horrible. Why did it take so long to release these tapes - given the freedom of information act? Horrible x multiplier.

Judi Lynn

(160,508 posts)
30. New twist: Dallas officers: Jokes during deadly arrest were 'strategy'
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 12:58 AM
Aug 2019

Dallas officers: Jokes during deadly arrest were 'strategy'
Jake Bleiberg, Associated Press Updated 7:12 pm CDT, Friday, August 2, 2019

DALLAS (AP) — Two Dallas police officers involved in the arrest of a 911 caller who died in their custody told commanders they mocked the handcuffed man as part of a "strategy" to get him to respond.

The officers' statements were part of an audio recording released Friday. They're the first the public has heard from officers involved in the 2016 arrest of Tony Timpa, which began with the 32-year-old man calling authorities for help and ended with him dead in the back of an ambulance.

The circumstances of Timpa's death have come under renewed scrutiny this week since legal motions by The Dallas Morning News and KXAS-TV prompted a federal judge to order the Dallas Police Department to release body camera footage of his arrest.

In the videos, officers can be seen forcefully pinning Timpa to the ground for more than 14 minutes and cracking jokes even as the screaming, handcuffed man goes still and silent. Shaking his limp body, the officers can be heard laughing and comparing Timpa to a child who doesn't want to wake up for school. Not long after, a paramedic informs them that he's dead.

More:
https://www.chron.com/news/texas/article/Dallas-officers-Jokes-during-deadly-arrest-were-14276913.php

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