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diva77

(7,630 posts)
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 02:12 PM Aug 2019

Trump and GOP sue California over law requiring tax returns to run in state's primary

Source: AP

The Trump campaign and the Republican Party sued California on Tuesday over a new law requiring presidential candidates to release their tax returns to run in the state's primary.

One of the suits contends California's law is "a naked political attack against the sitting President of the United States."

The law signed last week by Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom is aimed at prying loose President Trump's tax returns, which he has refused to release, saying they are under audit. California's law requires candidates for president and governor to release five years of tax returns to appear on the state's primary ballot.

It does not include a similar requirement for the general election.

Read more: https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-08-06/trump-california-tax-returns-law-suit



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Trump and GOP sue California over law requiring tax returns to run in state's primary (Original Post) diva77 Aug 2019 OP
Trump's default position PJMcK Aug 2019 #1
I get so po'd that he can sue but cannot be sued!! nt in2herbs Aug 2019 #12
He can be sued & is currently facing dozens of suits. displacedtexan Aug 2019 #17
The Rs can't win this. CA pays for the primaries and they get to set their own rules. stopbush Aug 2019 #2
I tend to agree ScratchCat Aug 2019 #4
Oh... interesting good to know. I do believe Illinois is going to pass a similar law soon... yeah!! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #16
Donald can run as a write-in candidate. keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #3
I'm sorry- did you just suggest that he run as a white-in candidate ??? CincyDem Aug 2019 #6
OUCH! keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #21
Not if the state-funded primary does not provide such an option. stopbush Aug 2019 #8
So much for States Rights BlueIdaho Aug 2019 #5
This was decided by California v Jones. The SCOTUS ruled that political stopbush Aug 2019 #7
Don't expect the rightwing majority to rule based on principle: struggle4progress Aug 2019 #23
Like I said, already decided. stopbush Aug 2019 #38
Courts should make Trump answer bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #9
Didn't the SCOTUS just rule that States need to run their own elections Scalded Nun Aug 2019 #10
Take it to the SCOTUS! Fight to tell people you have something to hide! Please and thank you! TeamPooka Aug 2019 #11
I find the thing a sign of desperation tirebiter Aug 2019 #13
Does anyone know the actual number of lawsuits filed by Trump since he has been President? Marie Marie Aug 2019 #14
This will be fun to watch Gothmog Aug 2019 #15
Now we need to make sure that Weld or somebody else NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #18
I still dont understand why it only applies to president and governor? MichMan Aug 2019 #19
I agree! There are lots of local elected officials on the loose who are compromised. diva77 Aug 2019 #20
How does he have standing to sue? cojoel Aug 2019 #22
There are many stages to all lawsuits PJMcK Aug 2019 #35
Hopefully this will make it through the courts quickly ripcord Aug 2019 #24
States can do pretty much what they want with election laws: gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc. jpak Aug 2019 #25
this isn't going to pass muster. Eventually it will be overturned. Kurt V. Aug 2019 #26
Is there anybody that fucker isn't suing ??? SamKnause Aug 2019 #27
This is a 15 page poorly drafted petition Gothmog Aug 2019 #28
1A? Surely the new law is violating his 5A rights? mwooldri Aug 2019 #29
He doesn't have to release his tax returns. Alpeduez21 Aug 2019 #32
Self-incrimination only counts VMA131Marine Aug 2019 #34
Do not give these idiots any new ideas but you may be correct Gothmog Aug 2019 #39
Thanks for digging up the document. diva77 Aug 2019 #36
Remember when the Rs were all about states rights? captain queeg Aug 2019 #30
With the exception of Deadbeat Don everyone since Nixon has released theirs. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2019 #31
Trust but verify? Brainfodder Aug 2019 #33
5..4..3..2..1... right on time. Hotler Aug 2019 #37
As much as I hate to type this, I think Trump eventually wins. WhoWoodaKnew Aug 2019 #40

PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
1. Trump's default position
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 02:19 PM
Aug 2019

File a lawsuit.

Delay.

Obfuscate.

Lie.

Trump is a fucker.

He's also an idiot.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
17. He can be sued & is currently facing dozens of suits.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 05:13 PM
Aug 2019

Clinton was sued, & Republicans are now stuck with that precedence. State election laws are pretty much sacrosanct; otherwise, red states wouldn't be able to suppress the vote so successfully.

ScratchCat

(1,977 posts)
4. I tend to agree
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 02:44 PM
Aug 2019

Because the Federal government has no mechanism to force California or any other State to place a particular candidate on the ballot. Seriously, what are they going to do? And California isn't a Voting Rights Act state, so they are out of luck "taking over" the election.

stopbush

(24,393 posts)
7. This was decided by California v Jones. The SCOTUS ruled that political
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 03:16 PM
Aug 2019

parties are allowed to control their primary contests however they see fit, whether that means primary v caucus, how to qualify as a candidate, etc.

When it comes to state-funded primaries, political parties are invited to participate at low or no cost, but they must follow the state rules. Political parties can always hold their own state primaries - and sometime do - but they are paying for those, not the state. There are a few states where the state sponsors a primary while a political party sponsors a separate primary on a different date.

struggle4progress

(118,236 posts)
23. Don't expect the rightwing majority to rule based on principle:
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 05:58 PM
Aug 2019

expedience and their political allegiances are likely to determine their stance

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
9. Courts should make Trump answer
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 03:21 PM
Aug 2019

why it's ok to leak information favorable to Trump, but not ok by law to require release of information that might be unfavorable to him (is this lawsuit confession?), and that all other candidates and incumbents release. This one-way Trump two-sided street has got to end.

If Trump is so successful, and so rich, he sure isn't proud enough of his money and power to tell the public how he did it. I suspect it's either that he actually didn't, or the methods used have no bragging rights.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
10. Didn't the SCOTUS just rule that States need to run their own elections
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 03:25 PM
Aug 2019

without any Fed interference. Of course, this was to allow for Gerrymandering and other voter-suppression efforts. The knife can cut both ways.

tirebiter

(2,533 posts)
13. I find the thing a sign of desperation
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 03:44 PM
Aug 2019

Jerry Brown vetoed A similar measure when it came before him. This is Judicial Watch.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
14. Does anyone know the actual number of lawsuits filed by Trump since he has been President?
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 04:05 PM
Aug 2019

Seems like there is another one very day. And how many have been filed by other Presidents?

MichMan

(11,870 posts)
19. I still dont understand why it only applies to president and governor?
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 05:40 PM
Aug 2019

Tax returns should be required for every single candidate for all state and local offices as well.

cojoel

(953 posts)
22. How does he have standing to sue?
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 05:50 PM
Aug 2019

Normally you have to demonstrate actual injury. He has not been precluded from the primary ballot, and that wouldn't happen until next year sometime, maybe.

PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
35. There are many stages to all lawsuits
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 08:33 PM
Aug 2019

This filing is just an early step.

It would be hilarious if the judge threw out the suit because Trump lacked standing! It could happen.

ripcord

(5,284 posts)
24. Hopefully this will make it through the courts quickly
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 06:45 PM
Aug 2019

If this case misses the next round of SCOTUS there is a very good chance a stay will allow trump on the ballot.

jpak

(41,757 posts)
25. States can do pretty much what they want with election laws: gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 06:50 PM
Aug 2019

when the GOP does it.

Trump and the GOP can go fuck themselves.

Yup

Gothmog

(144,945 posts)
28. This is a 15 page poorly drafted petition
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:08 PM
Aug 2019

This petition is poorly drafted and is only 15 pages http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/08/06/1.-.complaint.pdf Somehow California is violating trump's first amendment rights by making him file his tax returns. This is a poorly drafted piece of shit petition

mwooldri

(10,301 posts)
29. 1A? Surely the new law is violating his 5A rights?
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:25 PM
Aug 2019

Filing tax returns does not abridge DJT's right to free speech, but releasing his tax returns might incriminate him in some evil ploy that we don't yet know about.

Alpeduez21

(1,750 posts)
32. He doesn't have to release his tax returns.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:38 PM
Aug 2019

He can choose not to run for president. Seems it's hard to argue that he undergoes a hardship b/c he can't run for president. It's not like he is being forced to run. He can choose not to run.

VMA131Marine

(4,136 posts)
34. Self-incrimination only counts
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:55 PM
Aug 2019

If you're charged with a crime.

And if Trump is worried about what his returns might reveal, he can keep his name off the ballot.

Trump isn't going to win in California, but if he's not on the ballot, it will depress Republican voter turnout and the party will lose even more Congressional seats. That's the only reason the GOP is fighting this. Remember it hasn't been an issue in previous elections because every Presidential candidate has released at least some returns (I believe Romney took his time though).

diva77

(7,630 posts)
36. Thanks for digging up the document.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 09:36 PM
Aug 2019

whatta mess!

If the filing is on behalf of Dump, private citizen, that means $$ should be coming out of his pocket, correct?

captain queeg

(10,103 posts)
30. Remember when the Rs were all about states rights?
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:28 PM
Aug 2019

Their hypocrisy is so transparent. Everything is used in one direction-theirs

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,766 posts)
31. With the exception of Deadbeat Don everyone since Nixon has released theirs.
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:28 PM
Aug 2019

Dumbshit thinks he's special.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
33. Trust but verify?
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:40 PM
Aug 2019

muhaha!

This tax return dodge is amazing in scope and no leak!?!

This too can't last?



WhoWoodaKnew

(847 posts)
40. As much as I hate to type this, I think Trump eventually wins.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:33 PM
Aug 2019

The constitution is pretty clear on what it takes to run for president. I think that will override the states.

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