Brazil Says It Will Reject $22 Million in Amazon Aid Pledged at G7

[Dennis Donovan]

Source: NYT

Aug. 27, 2019
Updated 9:41 a.m. ET

RIO DE JANEIRO — Hours after leaders of some of the world’s wealthiest countries pledged more than $22 million to help combat fires raging in the Amazon rainforest, Brazil’s government angrily rejected the offer, in effect telling the other nations to mind their own business.

President Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil expressed his ire in a series of Twitter posts on Monday, and he and his aides specifically criticized and taunted President Emmanuel Macron of France, who had announced the aid package at the Group of 7 summit meeting. Their comments extended a verbal feud between the two leaders.

Mr. Bolsonaro, who has suggested that Mr. Macron’s real motive is to shield France’s agriculture from Brazilian competition, tweeted that the president “disguises his intentions behind the idea of an ‘alliance’ of the G7 countries to ‘save’ the Amazon, as if we were a colony or a no-man’s land.”

His chief of staff, Onyx Lorenzoni, told the Globo broadcast network that the administration would be turning down the offer, and insulted Mr. Macron with a reference to the fire that gutted the Cathedral of Notre-Dame in Paris in April. The Brazilian government later confirmed his comments, Globo reported.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/27/world/americas/brazil-amazon-aid.html

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[dalton99a]

1. Bolsonaro likes fire

[AllyCat]

2. The almighty capital as king strikes again

We are going to suffocate at this rate.

[dlk]

3. Another Madman Who "Fiddles" While His Country Burns

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Bolsonaro is too insane to understand the negative climate impacts of burning the Amazon to the ground will impair the ability to successfully raise crops and cattle there.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

19. ...which will have a devastating effect on the rest of the Earth.

But like Fat Donnie, short term profits are always more important than the long term survival of the planet.

Looks like the voters in Brazil are just as stupid as the MAGAts.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. They're gonna have to

nuke the Amazon in order to save it.

[Newest Reality]

5. Despite Blosonaro's prideful

rejection of the "package", to me, $22-million is a mere pittance and that is insulting and a rather meager, lackluster gesture, to say the least.

[kozar]

7. I agree

but if your house was burned or flooded with no insurance, would you reject ANY help?


Koz

[Newest Reality]

8. Of, course...

That is why I separated my remark from the politics, etc.

One could easily criticize the arrogance and such of the response to the offer.

[kozar]

11. no offense

we are just talking, and as we talk among sane people,, the insane people become more obvious, wink.


Koz

[Newest Reality]

12. None Taken!

Thanks. We are in accord and I don't mind clarifying my point at all.

It is nice to get a response to a comment. It lets you know somebody is there

[kozar]

14. hi back n/t

[Bradical79]

36. He doesn't need help

because burning it down is the goal. This idiot thinks it will work out in his favor economically. And his entire grip on power is based on pushing this ultra-nationalist message and directing hate towards other groups. Taking this offer would undermine his narritive.

Maybe he does have a price, but it's going to be much much higher than $22,000,000.

[Me.]

10. That's What I Think

talk a billion and maybe we'll get somewhere

[mathematic]

15. The fires aren't a natural disaster

They're on purpose. Why should any amount of money be offered and why would any amount of money be accepted?

[Newest Reality]

16. That's a good quesiton.

I was thinking more along the lines of doing something proactive, (which one could ask, could we expect that from the current government) in order to stop the slash and burn activity and promote some form of basic conservation which is in line with the Indigenous People's viewpoint on taking care of the Earth as our home.

I don't take the "lungs of the Earth" metaphor lightly. If the brain starts to think that other parts of the body don't matter, that can be a big problem, so to speak.

When it becomes a collective issue, it is interesting to see "world leaders" not do much leading when we, and all the critters, have to breath and there are so many global implications involved. There is more than the economic factor of what financial aid might or might do to resolve this. There are also the implications of the example and reactions that major countries are having to torching of an important resources--from species to potential cures to oxygen, etc. When that is all gone, it is gone, kaput, the parrot is dead.

So, I wonder what could or would be done, regardless of the fact that they are being set deliberately and in respects to the mindset that is encouraging MORE slash and burn-style politics and economics in a time, for those who are aware, of having very little wiggle room in regards to the survival of life now. This is a critical threshold we are on in many ways, IMHO.

[Duppers]

30. Trump donor, Blackstone CEO Is Driving Force Behind Amazon Deforestation

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212415568

[Duppers]

31. This is about facilitating the cultivation, export of grain and soybeans.

The forest is definitely being burned ON PURPOSE!

In order to make some rich P.O.S. richer.

See article.

[Duppers]

32. This is ALL about MONEY.

If $22 Trillion were being offered instead of $22 million, these ruthless, thieving MFers would probably take it.

[ChiTownDenny]

6. Send in NATO forces.

F*ck that idiot.

[sandensea]

17. Or at the very least, destabilize and topple him

How? The same way many center-left administrations in South America were ousted: Have the local judiciary and media work in tandem to undermine his regime, eventually forcing Brazil's congress to impeach the cretin.

This is exactly how we got Dilma Rousseff removed - and she had done nothing wrong, except be an ideological "annoyance" to the Cuban exiles running U.S. Latin America policy (sadly).

The U.S. Embassy also worked very closely with Brazil's right-wing judiciary to railroad Lula da Silva.

The progressive da Silva would, of course, have beaten Bolso at the polls in a landslide had he been allowed to run. And the Amazon wouldn't be going through this right now.

There are a couple of other similar examples in the region (one of them, Argentina's Macri, now a major financial and int'l standing liability for the U.S.) - but none of these mistakes nearly so consequential as the installation of Bolsonazi in Brazil.

Home to 20%+ of the oxygen we breathe.

[Duppers]

33. I like the way you think.

[DBoon]

9. time to embargo Brazilian beef and soy

nt

[flamingdem]

13. this plus breaking trade deals

and more

[Duppers]

29. Bingo!!!

TY.

[maxsolomon]

34. China will buy it all.

Brazil has said as much.

[W T F]

18. The Russians hacked Brazil's election too, and installed another narcissist dictator.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. It IS the human specie's business and responsibility. Bolsonaro thinks insulting Macron's wife makes

... makes it OK.

[LiberalFighter]

21. Doesn't look like he had any real formal education except in the military.

[BlueMTexpat]

22. This is an environmental

crime that affects the whole world!

[lark]

23. Non-orange other maniac to world - fuck you, I will destroy my country for profit!

He doesn't give a shit about his country or the world, just profits from agribusiness. He is as bad as drumpf.

[Maxheader]

24. handjob admires stumpy...

Says it all right there...

[rickyhall]

25. Trumps are multiplying. Does Raid make a trump spray?

[Coventina]

26. Bolsonaro needs to be charged with crimes against humanity.

Not kidding.

[BigmanPigman]

28. Can they do that?I hope so. This is the beginning of the world having to work together

for our very survival, not a time to fight. The governments and politicians on the planet will destroy it as fast as the greedy, selfish businessmen.

[Blue_Tires]

27. Greenwald was unavailable for comment

[maxsolomon]

35. What does he need 22 million for?

He doesn't want the fires put out. They're burning the Amazon out of Spite. For us.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/26/world/americas/brazil-amazon-rainforest-fire.html