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mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 04:13 PM Sep 2019

Suspect identified in Odessa mass shooting - Live continuing coverage on CBS7 and Facebook

Source: CBS

ODESSA, Tx. (KOSA) -- UPDATE: The suspect in Saturday's mass shooting has been identified as 36-year-old Seth Aaron Ator of Odessa.
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Seth Ator, 36. (DPS Photo)

A mass shooting left seven people dead and many more injured in Odessa on Saturday. The suspect in the shooting has been killed.

Officials say the shooting started just after 3 p.m. when DPS Troopers tried to pull over a vehicle along I-20 at mile marker 131.

That's when the driver reportedly pointed a rifle at the rear window of the car and began firing his weapon.

A DPS Trooper and civilians were shot on the interstate.

According to OPD, the suspect shot at civilians on East Loop 338 and I-20 before they stole a U.S. Postal Service vehicle and continued the shooting spree.

The shootings continued along State Highway 191 until the suspect stopped at the Cinergy Movie Theater.

At the theater, the suspect shot an Odessa police officer and a Midland police officer before he was killed.

A total of 19 people were injured in the shooting and seven people were killed. According to the City of Odessa, five victims died in Odessa while three others died in Midland. One passed away at the Midland Memorial Hospital on Sunday morning.

Read more: https://www.cbs7.com/content/news/Authorities-responding-to-reports-of-active-shooter-in-Odessa-558964771.html

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Suspect identified in Odessa mass shooting - Live continuing coverage on CBS7 and Facebook (Original Post) mnhtnbb Sep 2019 OP
Irony is not dead. He went postal in a stolen postal truck. brush Sep 2019 #1
He killed the postal worker driving the truck. mnhtnbb Sep 2019 #3
meh. marble falls Sep 2019 #4
I'm sure her family will find this an amusing anecdote at her funeral. PSPS Sep 2019 #9
Amusing? That's what you call it? brush Sep 2019 #14
It was sarcastic. The post I was replying to (yours) was in horrible taste. PSPS Sep 2019 #15
It was an observation that mass shootings have come full circle as back in the day they were known.. brush Sep 2019 #16
And a very inappropriate "observation" at that. PSPS Sep 2019 #18
Please. We do do social commentary here. We're not talking to the families. It is what it is to you. brush Sep 2019 #22
Please. Making a "joke" about someone's murder is very tasteless "social commentary." PSPS Sep 2019 #23
You call it a joke. I don't. Let's agree to disagree and wait for the next mass shooting... brush Sep 2019 #24
Twitter says his social media presence is being scrubbed mainer Sep 2019 #2
That seems likely to me. mnhtnbb Sep 2019 #5
It won't work. This is the information age. marble falls Sep 2019 #6
thats not true..... getagrip_already Sep 2019 #19
Nothing can be covered up. The information is out there and and it exists ... marble falls Sep 2019 #21
Still not true.... getagrip_already Sep 2019 #25
Cover-up CountAllVotes Sep 2019 #27
Yes, this delay is abnormal and you knew something was up, there it is bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #7
It makes one immediately think he's been identified mnhtnbb Sep 2019 #8
My husband speculates that he may have murielm99 Sep 2019 #12
or bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #20
Twitter also says he was a Democratic Socialist Jewish antifa meth-head. 11cents Sep 2019 #10
Quick internet check: CountAllVotes Sep 2019 #28
Hard not to be suspicious about that for sure. KPN Sep 2019 #29
He apparently failed a background check when he tried to buy a gun at some time. PSPS Sep 2019 #11
If ALL talked about new gun laws were on the books and enforced tomorrow we would Eliot Rosewater Sep 2019 #26
If his name was Mohammed Abdullah he would have been named immediately AKing Sep 2019 #13
Indeed. nt iluvtennis Sep 2019 #17
THIS KPN Sep 2019 #30
According to his neighbor, his home had no running water or electricity Siwsan Sep 2019 #31
Too poor for the bills would be more accurate? Brainfodder Sep 2019 #32

brush

(53,765 posts)
16. It was an observation that mass shootings have come full circle as back in the day they were known..
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 11:34 PM
Sep 2019

as going postal as disgruntled PO employees were often the shooters. Maybe you're too young to remember that?

PSPS

(13,591 posts)
18. And a very inappropriate "observation" at that.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 12:30 AM
Sep 2019


Granados was on the phone with her twin sister, Rosie, when Granados said she heard a gunshot, the surviving twin said. Then, Granados started screaming.

"It was very painful. I just wanted to help her, and I couldn't. I thought she had got bitten by a dog or something," Rosie Granados said sobbing in a phone interview with CNN. "I tried calling her name and she wouldn't answer." The gunman hijacked Granados' mail vehicle, said Silvia Torres, a spokeswoman with the USPS Inspection Service.

Rosie knew her sister's route and went looking for her, she said. Within 15 minutes, she found her sister. The police were already there. "She was laying on the floor when I got there. She was already gone," she told CNN in an interview from her home. "I just wanted to run to her and hug her ... kiss her."

brush

(53,765 posts)
22. Please. We do do social commentary here. We're not talking to the families. It is what it is to you.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:01 AM
Sep 2019

and it is what it is to me. Mass shootings used to be called "going postal", as cynical as that sounds, and they were rare, but unfortunately because the NRA-ruled repug party won't allow any gun safety legislation to even get to the floor of the Senate for a vote, they are no longer rare and there will be another one in a week or two, and more and more and more after that.

brush

(53,765 posts)
24. You call it a joke. I don't. Let's agree to disagree and wait for the next mass shooting...
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:53 AM
Sep 2019

which will come soon enough.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
2. Twitter says his social media presence is being scrubbed
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 04:33 PM
Sep 2019

Apparently, someone's trying to erase any info about his political affiliations. Perhaps this explains the lag in Abbott revealing his name?

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
19. thats not true.....
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 08:51 AM
Sep 2019

Lots of information can be altered, obliterated, or even lost. It's actually easy to do with the tight access, say the access a super power with very sophisticated tools might have.

Consider that today, lots of social media posting is done under pseudonyms, and he was likely posting on sites where the admins don't want scrutiny and actually hold his beliefs. It's been known to happen on redstate and 4chan. It could happen faster if the fbi was doing it by requesting pages be hidden pending investigation.

Could someone find the pages in a reflector site? Maybe, if they were public to begin with. But someone would have to do a lot of digging, and that isn't what the press does any more. Even if someone was looking, it would take weeks to find, verify, and publish. By that time the cretins have won.

In other crimes, we find out everything the person thought or had on their computer. We know almost nothing about the why, or even the who. All the press does is quote abbot or some sheriff.

This is being covered up.

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
21. Nothing can be covered up. The information is out there and and it exists ...
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 09:05 AM
Sep 2019

on servers, hard drive and thumb drives and in paper archives.

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
25. Still not true....
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 03:00 PM
Sep 2019

Thats a pretty old view of how the internet works.

Search indexes can be altered, site admins can make pages invisible, falso links can be inserted.

Its a miracle the net works at all. It is easy to disrupt anyone from getting to a link.

And under the patriot act and cybersecurity legislation, govt agencies can make binding requests on isps and network carriers to do just that if an active investigation requires it.

Is it gone? Not really, but good luck finding it instead of some sanitized version.

Its a very powerful way to disrupt the flow of information. And its all part of the toolkit... it just takes an official entity motivated to do it.

We normally trust investigative entities to not abuse the technology available to them. But this is bill barrs world.....

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
27. Cover-up
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 03:05 PM
Sep 2019

Typical when the offender is a white male.

White males are the priority in the tRump world of chaos!

DUMP tRump!



bucolic_frolic

(43,129 posts)
7. Yes, this delay is abnormal and you knew something was up, there it is
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 04:46 PM
Sep 2019

Nothing is ever erased from the internet they tell us. We'll see.

This sort of coverup is unprecedented and should be illegal. The public has a right to know.

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
8. It makes one immediately think he's been identified
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 04:55 PM
Sep 2019

as a Trumpster or white supremacist. Why else hide it? You know if he had been supporting Bernie it would immediately be out there.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
12. My husband speculates that he may have
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 07:15 PM
Sep 2019

held a recognizable position with the local republican party or the NRA. Maybe he was from a prominent family, or was known to have campaigned for trump.

bucolic_frolic

(43,129 posts)
20. or
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 09:01 AM
Sep 2019

his social media is sprinkled with "Heil Orange!"

They have released his name, misdemeanor record, no outstanding warrants, but haven't said anything about him - occupation, locale, affiliations. They mentioned a Facebook page but provided no details in the AP article I read.

He sure created a lot of mayhem for a novice, if that's where they're headed with it.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
28. Quick internet check:
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 03:08 PM
Sep 2019

Also Known As (AKAs):
Seth Aaron Ator
Seth A Ator

Lived In:
Odessa, TX
Denver, CO
Amarillo, TX
Waco, TX

Family:
Debra Sue Ator
Debra J Ator
Denis K Ator

This prick is dead but his info. is still on the internet.





Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
26. If ALL talked about new gun laws were on the books and enforced tomorrow we would
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 03:04 PM
Sep 2019

still see many, many mass shootings with weapons NO citizen should EVER own.


Answer is simple, think Australia.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
31. According to his neighbor, his home had no running water or electricity
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 03:54 PM
Sep 2019

I'm wondering how much of a 'social media presence' he had.

This is from a Daily Mail article but I'll share it, anyway. Sometimes they do print actual news:

The West Texas shooter's neighbor said he carried a rifle while yelling at her over leaving trash in a nearby dumpster and that he used to shoot animals from his rooftop.

Veronica Alonzo told CNN that Seth Ator, 36, of Ector County, Texas, was her neighbor and that he had gone to her house last month, while carrying a large rifle, to yell at her for leaving garbage in a nearby dumpster.

She also said that Ator often shot animals in his yard while he was up in a structure on top of his home. He would then go and retrieve their corpses later.

Alonzo said that investigators were at Ator's home Sunday, putting small red flags at various locations outside his property, where she said he would shoot at the animals.

She claimed that Ator didn't have running water or electricity in his home and that when it was cold, she saw him sitting in his Toyota Camry with the heater on.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7417953/West-Texas-shooters-neighbor-threatened-rifle-yelled-trash-dumpster.html

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
32. Too poor for the bills would be more accurate?
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 05:05 PM
Sep 2019

No water or electricity in 2019, but working?

That was a disaster waiting to spread... and bingo the trigger was being fired, let me take a wild wild shot in the dark....

NO HEALTHCARE INSURANCE even though working OR that was why he couldn't pay bills?

It's done, folks need to evolve on the subject, clearly too much profit still in dismissing/ignoring it? [Who popped in your head, bingo!]







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