GOP senators are 'stunned' at the transcript -- and think Trump is putting himself in more jeopardy
Source: Raw Story
The White House has tried to get ahead of the exploding scandal about President Donald Trump pressuring the president of Ukraine to dig up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden by releasing a batch of notes taken from the call. But the notes in fact confirm Trump demanded an investigation of Biden, implicate Attorney General William Barr in the scheme, and even show the Ukrainian President tried to flatter him by bringing up his stays in Trump Tower.
The transcript was, in fact, so legally and politically damaging for the president that according to Washington Post reporter Robert Costa pro-Trump Senate Republicans were completely blindsided, and have no idea where to go from here:
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Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/gop-senators-are-stunned-at-the-transcript-and-think-trump-is-putting-himself-in-more-jeopardy-report/
Zorro
(15,740 posts)but I don't see that happening.
They're all traitors.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)they can be counted on to look out after their own interests. If Trump is seen as a major liability for 2020, they can decide to send a committee to the White House to ask him to resign, and failing that, they can publicly call for his resignation and cheer on impeachment efforts in the House.
The downside is not that bad for them, they end up with Pence as president for another year, and after Trump, he's going to seem almost normal to the swing voters.
We'll know more when we know the identity of the whistleblower.
JudyM
(29,233 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)dealing with Trump has not been easy. He'd have a way easier time dealing with Pence.
But, if Trump's out, then a primary battle is underway, and I have no doubts that Romney would throw his hat in the ring the day after Trump's pardon. Then it becomes a battle for the money people over the fundies in the GOP.
It would also change the fundamentals of our nomination contest, too.
JudyM
(29,233 posts)MarcA
(2,195 posts)ffr
(22,669 posts)Pence hasn't tweeted in almost a day.
He's the one who met and spoke repeatedly with Zelensky from April through September 18th, 2019.
Transcript mentions Barr to meet with Zelensky on behalf of 45. Barr acts blindsided today about those revelations.
Yet, and yet, no mention of Pence's interactions on behalf of 45 with Zelensky in the "official" transcript.
Hmmm. Strange coincidences don't you agree?
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)there are no coincidences.
dchill
(38,472 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)"he's going to seem almost normal to the swing voters.
.."
EGGSACTLY !!!!
PENCE MUST MUST be brought down as well and at the same time so he cannot appoint a VP !!
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)that Pence is involved in Ukrainian things up to his eyeballs. Two birds with one stone would be delightful!
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)The tRumphumpers will primary them out. This is Teaparty 2.0.
If they do anything that displeases the fuhrer they know they will loose that chunk of their constituency that has gone full on brown shirt. The count on those who don't support Trump, but don't want anyone from the Democratic Party either to keep them in. Without the Trumphumpers they know they're out. They stay loyal, and even if he goes down, they may still keep their seat..
It's all about holding onto power for the vast majority of them.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)before they try it, that's for sure.
If enough Trumphumpers see this Ukrainian thing as a dealbreaker, then their support of Trump will drop, and that's when the GOP'ers in the Senate will make their move. However, I have doubts that the deplorables will see it that way. Ukraine is far away (most couldn't find it on a globe) and if it was about dishing up dirt on Biden, then it was justified. They didn't mind Wikileaks helping Trump beat Hillary, even though they despised Edward Snowden.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)I made post #44, perhaps you didn't see it.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)where 30 repub Senators would vote to find trump guilty if who they are would be kept secret. Figures.
33taw
(2,439 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,755 posts)Althou, Im sure they will
A. Act surprised about the content
B. Act as if the content is false
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)their recent complacency has made them lax and stupid.
RAB910
(3,497 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)happybird
(4,605 posts)brooklynite
(94,502 posts)amywalk
(254 posts)Now would be the time to leak it. 😂😂😂
underpants
(182,772 posts)Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)The transcript was, in fact, so legally and politically damaging for the president that according to Washington Post reporter Robert Costa pro-Trump Senate Republicans were completely blindsided, and have no idea where to go from here:
Yeah, RIGHT, GOP-ers...you know EXACTLY where to go from here. (No, not hell...not YET, anyway... ) Your problem is you just don't want to go there.
I actually understand their sentiment...
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)and every fucking republican congressional person........cabinet crony and whovere else just sat there with there hands up their ass ..............gave this asshole carte blanche....................they fucking did nothing and "now" they are shocked....................and running around like" what do we do".............they the republicans are full of treasonous shit.....................they put "party" over country lock, stock and barrel.............they did not give one iota to the Constitution when they swore to protect and defend this country....................NEVER........they lied............and now they will have to vote....................for what their principles are ............end of story...............................
November 3, 2020 cannot get here fast enough.....................
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)ArizonaLib
(1,242 posts)They have not had to lie about this before. The best they can probably do at first take is to 'Oliver North' Attorney General Barr. Maybe Oliver North is at the White House already.
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)It's what they do best. It would be telling the truth that would baffle them.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)impeding the whistleblower complaint going to committees. Trumps unchecked hubris might finally cross a big enough line where the complete destruction of the GOP is becoming very possible if they remain blind and silent to treasonous acts. Colluding with a foreign govt can be called treason in my book.
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Being replicated by every media outlet.
No damn transcript been released.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)And yet he still looks terrible in them!
RockRaven
(14,959 posts)the last 4 years or so. That phone call, what little we know about it, is totally unsurprising, as is the maneuver by Trump where he makes the problem worse for himself whilst thinking he is solving it.
LudwigPastorius
(9,137 posts)If they didn't, they're dumber than he is.
Stew in it, you GOPigs.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)It won't be long now. Stay strong, my friends!
Vinca
(50,267 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)What is their solution? More obstruction?
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Lets just get that straight first off. Its so awful that that part is just glossed over these days. That these stories do now even have to be prefaced with how corrupt and anti-Constitutional the R Party has become. It is just presumed. And the fact that most of them most likely would endorse those actions, if kept secret, if it meant getting a leg up on Biden, and increasing Republican chances in 2020.
Linda Ed
(493 posts)Barr is the new focus of this mega scandal....Barr would gladly obstruct justice on drumpfs behalf
drumpf used to scream; "NO COLLUSION !!" -- now he's like; "Yeah, I did it - so what ?" -- as if to underscore how completely above the law he believes he is after Barr and the whole GOP let him off the hook for the Mueller report.
And now Trump's actions absolutely confirm the worst conclusions that Mueller came to about his conduct since before the 2016 election.
Trump thinks he can get away with ANYTHING.
Impeachment hangs the ugly title of impeached president on Trump. It also forces McConnell to take the vote to the senate floor. Which will identify every GOP cult follower.
Maxheader
(4,372 posts)Business as usual tomorrow...The gop has been bullied by stumpy since the campaign...
Will their opinions change enough to pursue impeachment?....
Captain Zero
(6,803 posts)'even show(s) the Ukrainian President tried to flatter him by bringing up his stays in Trump Tower.'
Game, set, match on the EMOLUMENTS Article of Impeachment.
Womp Womp.
Thoughts and Prayers.
Qutzupalotl
(14,302 posts)If they cant condone this behavior, maybe there is a way out of this nightmare.
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)dlk
(11,552 posts)Heres an even more radical suggestion for them-try putting country before country for a change. Republicans are only stunned at being held accountable.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Last edited Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)
Maybe some patriotic staffer will leak the email.
On edit: huzzah! some of the talking points were leaked! See https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212500112
sandensea
(21,624 posts)How about, to hell.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)bunch of stupid, ignorant treasonous lying fucks....
Beartracks
(12,809 posts)Last edited Wed Sep 25, 2019, 05:26 PM - Edit history (1)
... when Mnuchin said following the law (e.g. providing the whistleblower complaint to Congress) would set a dangerous precedent.
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Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)So even if gross espionage is alleged and proven, these turds won't raise a finger to seek justice, and their constituents won't care.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)not a word about Republicans..
duforsure
(11,885 posts)To oust him the more republicans will be voted out of office because of him. It's just a matter of time before they do it, or they'll be destroyed for all their corruption, and treasonous acts .
dchill
(38,472 posts)Just a memo purporting to be a description of some recollections...
Definitely not as promised.
Beartracks
(12,809 posts)FFS, the GOP doesn't deserve to a political party in a democratic nation anymore. They're useless.
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Marthe48
(16,935 posts)because it is so bad? Or that individuals gop politicians didn't think of doing this kind of crooked treasonous crap to benefit themselves?
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Linda Ed
(493 posts)Trump, Barr, Giuliani, Pompeo et al - pretty ominous when you have people so dishonest that their clocks aren't even correct twice/day..
What evidence actually shows is the Ukrainians actually looked into this, terminated the investigation and found nothing there.
The notes of the call between Trump and the Ukrainian president reveal that beyond asking for dirt on Joe Biden, Trump also pressed for information about a conspiracy theory designed to exonerate Russia's role in hacking the DNC.