Maxine Waters Says Mike Pence And The Attorney General Were Involved In The Ukraine "Conspiracy"

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Source: BuzzFeed



Rep. Maxine Waters, one of the six Democratic committee chairs leading the House’s impeachment investigation, told BuzzFeed News’ AM to DM on Friday that she believes both Attorney General Bill Barr and Vice President Mike Pence were involved in President Donald Trump’s attempts to pressure Ukraine for information on former vice president Joe Biden.
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Both Barr and Pence are named in a whistleblower complaint alleging Trump abused his office in a conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in which Trump repeatedly asked the Ukrainian leader to help investigate Biden ahead of the 2020 election. But the involvement of Barr and Pence is less clear.

Waters was asked about Trump’s statement Wednesday that reporters should also look at Pence’s communications with Ukraine; Trump had said the vice president had “a couple of conversations also.
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I expect that Pence is part of this conspiracy to try to get Ukraine to do something in a fake investigation and come out with some dirt on Biden,” Waters said. “So I’m looking forward to that coming out in the hearings that will be done by the Judiciary Committee as they take up the impeachment resolution.”

Read more: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/sarahmimms/maxine-waters-pence-barr-ukraine-trump-impeachment

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“So I’m looking forward to that coming out in the hearings that will be done by the Judiciary Committee"

Mmmmm. Delicious.

#PresidentPelosi

[jpak]

1. May the ghosts of John Mitchell and Spiro Agnew haunt them

Every night.

[empedocles]

2. Yes!

[DinahMoeHum]

12. +1000s

n/t

[Gelliebeans]

19. Yup

Since I was too young to remember but I love the Maddow podcast Bagman...(they were crooked POS’s) although this cast of crooks currently will surpass them.

[Grins]

3. ...and hello President Pelosi!

They came in a set orchestrated by Paul Manafort. Take them both down.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. Never going to happen. A fantasy based on a lack of understanding of the Constitution.

Both tRump and Pence would have to resign simultaneously or be convicted simultaneously in one Senate vote or be on the same crashing plane.

Never going to happen.

If Pence ascends, he appoints his own VP.

[Woodycall]

16. Unfortunately, I think You're right

I think what they would most likely do is pressure Pence to resign at the earliest possible opportunity and then pressure Trump to appoint either some innocuous figure like a retired Republican Senator or Governor or, whoever there choice might be to replace Trump on the ticket. The later is least likely as it might tend to "taint" that individual by mere association.

[Grins]

23. No. He doesn't.

Fantasy - of course. Lack of understanding, no.

"If Pence ascends, he appoints his own VP."

When a Vice-President assumes the presidency, he nominates his choice for VP. And that nomination is is subject to approval of both the House and the Senate.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

24. He does. He'll never appoint Pelosi. Even if he did, the Republicon Senate would never approve. . nt

[Grins]

28. Who said anything about Pence appointing Pelosi?

The original post was about Maxine Waters saying Pence is up to his ass in the Ukraine conspiracy along with Barr. They are a matched set. Other posts (in particular, Talking Points Memo) have said both Trump and Pence have to go. Should that happen Pelosi automatically becomes president.

And she would not have to nominate anyone as her VP because there is nothing in the Constitution that requires her to do so. And any Senate trial would be close enough to the general election so why bother? The GOP Senate would not confirm anyone, so better wait and let the Democrat presidential candidate make his choice.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. Read through material again. Your scenario only occurs with simultaneous vacancy. Not gonna happen

The Pres & VP offices will not be simultaneously vacant. The GOP will in sure that.

[Bradical79]

30. No appointment needed

Without a VP she would be next in line and automatically become President should Pence also be gone. The fantasy would go like this:

1. Trump removed/resign
2. House fails to approve Pence's VP nomination
3. Pence removed/resign
4. Pelosi sworn in due to the laws of succession

[LanternWaste]

26. "My tea-leaf-reading reading prophecies are better than yours!"

"Never going to happen..."

[Leghorn21]

4. Oh my oh my

JUST GETTIN STARTED muthafuckahs

[ffr]

7. That's a great portrait. American legends.

[warmfeet]

14. Oh my,

that would be so nice. Let's make it happen.

[SCVDem]

15. Why am I hearing

the Law and Order music?

[Bayard]

21. The Posse!

[Judi Lynn]

34. Bless them all. Wonderful photo. n/t

[japple]

5. Uh oh! He's gonna say something bad about Rep. Waters. Thank dog she always

has a good comeback!!! Sic 'em, Maxine!

[Wellstone ruled]

6. President Pelosi's new Cabinet

in that photo.

[DemKittyNC]

8. YAY!!!

This is like Christmas come early!!!!!

[Igel]

13. The subject line elides words and ellipsis.

"I said my wife and brother think Trump is great."

Thsi does not allow for: Igel said, "I think Trump is great."

She believes they were involved.

My wife says she believes that the Methodists follow the Bible. Even if she said, "The Methodists follow the Bible," it's still less veridical fact and more her personal opinion.

[dchill]

9. She's not wrong. The whistleblower agrees.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Subpoena the secret server used for coverups (hide-aways). . . . nt

[Evolve Dammit]

17. Go Maxine! Take 'em all down. Traitorous cabal. Hope the net keeps expanding. Eric Prince?

[TryLogic]

18. Yes. Yes. Yes.

[Blue Owl]

20. Sorry mother, Mikey's going away for a very long time...

[hughee99]

22. I'm I reading this wrong? The title suggests that Waters believes she has proof of this

But the story suggests she’s expecting to find evidence, but doesn’t have it yet.

[lagomorph777]

27. Why the scare quotes on "Conspiracy?" We have ample evidence of a conspiracy.

We're just fleshing out the details and list of conspirators, as they are arrested, one or two at a time

[hughee99]

31. I don't know. I didn't write the OP.

Did you intend to reply to the OP?

[lagomorph777]

32. No, really a rhetorical question because the OP is citing an article.

[hughee99]

33. I'll be honest, I didn't even notice the quotation marks. Nt

[riversedge]

25. Go get them gal.