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swag

(26,486 posts)
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 01:41 PM Nov 2019

Trump admin to allow adoption agencies to refuse placement in LGBT homes

Source: Washington Blade

The Trump administration is moving forward with a proposed regulation that will allow taxpayer-funded adoption agencies to refuse placement into LGBT families over religious objections.

The Department of Health & Human Services went public on Friday with the regulation, which will undo an Obama-era policy prohibiting discrimination discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation among federal grantees.

The proposed regulation, which will have far-reaching implications, was immediately was criticized by LGBT rights supporters.

Julie Kruse, director of federal policy at Family Equality Council, said in a statement the policy was “outrageous,” especially at the start of National Adoption Month.

Read more: https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/11/01/trump-admin-to-allow-adoption-agencies-to-refuse-placement-in-lgbt-homes/

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Trump admin to allow adoption agencies to refuse placement in LGBT homes (Original Post) swag Nov 2019 OP
Theocracy, anyone? TrogL Nov 2019 #1
How about homes of a sexual assaulter who pays off porn stars? IronLionZion Nov 2019 #2
How does he have the authority to do something like this? dbonds Nov 2019 #3
How does he walk into teenage girls' dressing rooms? IronLionZion Nov 2019 #13
Did they ask for this power? Brainfodder Nov 2019 #4
What a bigoted POS! MineralMan Nov 2019 #5
The 'Christians' say that children deserve a mommy and daddy, not two of the same. keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #6
Hi keithbvadu2 - My wife and I are both straight Christians, and we have two adopted children. Pendrench Nov 2019 #8
Glad to hear it! You are one of the few. keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #10
I certainly hope there are more of us...if not, there should be. Pendrench Nov 2019 #11
And then children age out of foster care while they say we're becoming a deviant culture ck4829 Nov 2019 #15
And that ain't all. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 #7
Some of my best students have LGBTQ parents who devote a lot of time to them kimbutgar Nov 2019 #9
This is a tip of the hat to the Christian Right, no doubt. Such antiquated minds YOHABLO Nov 2019 #12
THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT IS NEITHER. Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2019 #18
Let me finish that up for you. Neither Christian nor are they Right! YOHABLO Nov 2019 #19
Next is not allowing adoption by those not of the right religion. keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #14
mega groan on so many levels Lulu KC Nov 2019 #16
And of course, vile tony Perkins is a happy dude!!....... riversedge Nov 2019 #17
So why are 123,000 kids in adoption, Perkins? ck4829 Nov 2019 #25
One more thing to be removed in 15 months when truthisfreedom Nov 2019 #20
And work against it now ck4829 Nov 2019 #24
Trump Admin Rule Change Would Give Federal Funds To Anti-LGBT Adoption Groups riversedge Nov 2019 #21
What a vile change ck4829 Nov 2019 #23
... ck4829 Nov 2019 #22

IronLionZion

(45,411 posts)
2. How about homes of a sexual assaulter who pays off porn stars?
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 01:45 PM
Nov 2019

The most deeply sinful president we've had in a while panders to the dumbest and fakest evangelical voters. These family values types don't actually value families.

IronLionZion

(45,411 posts)
13. How does he walk into teenage girls' dressing rooms?
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:44 PM
Nov 2019

He doesn't need authority. He just does it because he's an arrogant asshole who breaks the rules and no one has stopped him yet.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
4. Did they ask for this power?
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 02:05 PM
Nov 2019

It is ridiculous?

What next, all children must wear bright orange wigs?

Still afraid of gay people in 2019... troglodytes!

Meanwhile, climate change....

keithbvadu2

(36,747 posts)
6. The 'Christians' say that children deserve a mommy and daddy, not two of the same.
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 02:21 PM
Nov 2019

The 'Christians' say that children deserve a mommy and daddy, not two of the same.

If all Christian straight families would adopt, there would be no children for LGBT homes.

How many children are you and your church members willing to adopt?

Pendrench

(1,356 posts)
8. Hi keithbvadu2 - My wife and I are both straight Christians, and we have two adopted children.
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 03:08 PM
Nov 2019

That being said, both of us also fully support LGBT couples/individuals who want to adopt.

Just because someone is straight and/or a Christian does not guarantee that they can provide children with the love, safety and support they deserve. And that should be the only consideration - to provide a loving, caring, safe, and supportive home.

It is my belief that as long as a couple (or individual) is able to pass the required background checks and home visits, they should have the same ability and right to adopt that we have.

Wishing you well and peace.

Tim

keithbvadu2

(36,747 posts)
10. Glad to hear it! You are one of the few.
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:09 PM
Nov 2019

Glad to hear it! You are one of the few.

In action and attitude.

Pendrench

(1,356 posts)
11. I certainly hope there are more of us...if not, there should be.
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:24 PM
Nov 2019

Thank you for taking time to reply to my post

Wishing you well and peace.

Tim

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,379 posts)
7. And that ain't all.
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 03:06 PM
Nov 2019

Here's the story, from HHS:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
November 1, 2019 | Contact: HHS Press Office
202-690-6343
media@hhs.gov

HHS Issues Proposed Rule to Align Grants Regulation with New Legislation, Nondiscrimination Laws, and Supreme Court Decisions

Action follows same-day issuance of a Notice of Nonenforcement of certain regulatory provisions

Today, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) issued a Notice of Nonenforcement to inform the public that certain regulatory provisions in The Uniform Administrative Requirements, Cost Principles, and Audit Requirements for HHS Awards [( "HHS grants regulation" )] will not be enforced because of serious concerns regarding the prior administration's implementation of the Regulatory Flexibility Act, which governs the issuance of certain regulations. HHS is also taking immediate steps to address the issue by publishing a notice of proposed rulemaking to reissue the HHS grants regulation with revisions.

In summary, the proposed rule would:

• Require grantees to comply with applicable nondiscrimination provisions passed by Congress and signed into law.
• Provide that HHS complies with applicable Supreme Court decisions in administering its grant programs.
• Not re-impose the exclusion from allowable costs in grants of penalties due for failing to comply with Individual Mandate of the Affordable Care Act (ACA). The Trump Administration has already eliminated the penalty associated for failing to comply with the ACA's individual mandate.
• Reissue the other provisions of the 2016 regulation.

In the proposed rule, HHS would repromulgate most of the provisions of the 2016 rulemaking verbatim. HHS would revise two provisions of the 2016 rulemaking to require grantees to comply with applicable nondiscrimination provisions passed by Congress and signed into law, including legislation ensuring the protection of religious liberty, and to provide that HHS complies with all applicable Supreme Court decisions in administering its grant programs.

The proposed rule represents the Trump Administration's strong commitment to the rule of law―the Constitution, federal statutes, and Supreme Court decisions. These require that the federal government not infringe on religious freedom in its operation of HHS grant programs and address the impact of regulatory actions on small entities.

HHS is committed to fully enforcing the civil rights laws passed by Congress. The proposed rule would better align its grants regulations with federal statutes, eliminating regulatory burden, including burden on the free exercise of religion. HHS is affirming that it will comply with all applicable Supreme Court decisions in administering its grants programs.

Read the proposed rule. - PDF

Read the Notice of Nonenforcement. - PDF

###

Note: All HHS press releases, fact sheets and other news materials are available at https://www.hhs.gov/news.
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Last revised: November 1, 2019

kimbutgar

(21,111 posts)
9. Some of my best students have LGBTQ parents who devote a lot of time to them
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 03:09 PM
Nov 2019

They always have their homework, clean clothes and nice lunches everyday.

We can reverse this once MF45 is impeached and pence is also caught up in the dragnet.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
12. This is a tip of the hat to the Christian Right, no doubt. Such antiquated minds
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:35 PM
Nov 2019

they have. Unfortunately for them, organized religion is losing members. Wonder why.

keithbvadu2

(36,747 posts)
14. Next is not allowing adoption by those not of the right religion.
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:53 PM
Nov 2019

Next is not allowing adoption by those not of the right religion.

Many Catholics/Protestants consider the other not true Christians.

Franklin (and Billy) Graham say Mormons are not Christians

According to them, Catholics are not Christians either.

https://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/october-2012/can-an-evangelical-christian-vote-for-a-mormon/

"We need something like what Jerry Falwell did in the 1980s. We need a “moral majority”-made up of Christians, Jews, Mormons, Catholics and many others of faith-to come together to take a stand for our religious freedoms and rights."

Lulu KC

(2,565 posts)
16. mega groan on so many levels
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 08:55 PM
Nov 2019

1. orientation is a problem?
2. the foster/adopt system is overloaded with children needing homes--growing due to DT's policies--so cutting the pool is not smart
3. Just plain stupid and mean

riversedge

(70,182 posts)
17. And of course, vile tony Perkins is a happy dude!!.......
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 09:07 AM
Nov 2019




....An HHS spokesperson referred the Blade to a news statement summarizing the proposed rule in response to an inquiry on why it’s necessary and its potential negative impact on LGBT people.

Tony Perkins, president of the anti-LGBT Family Research Council, applauded the Trump administration in a statement for moving forward with the anti-LGBT regulation.

“Thanks to President Trump, charities will be free to care for needy children and operate according to their religious beliefs and the reality that children do best in a home with a married mom and dad,” Perkins said.


An estimated 440,000 children are currently in the foster care system in the United States, and more than 123,000 kids are now available for adoption.

ck4829

(35,042 posts)
25. So why are 123,000 kids in adoption, Perkins?
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 07:36 AM
Nov 2019

Shouldn't him and his ilk be out there adopting those kids instead of trying to stop gay people from adopting them?

riversedge

(70,182 posts)
21. Trump Admin Rule Change Would Give Federal Funds To Anti-LGBT Adoption Groups
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 05:35 AM
Nov 2019

This is so so so wrong.



Trump Admin Rule Change Would Give Federal Funds To Anti-LGBT Adoption Groups

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-admin-rule-change-would-give-federal-funds-to-anti-lgbt-adoption-groups




By Matt Shuham November 2, 2019 5:08 p.m.


A new proposed rule from the Department of Health and Human Services would undo an Obama-era ban on federal funds being given to groups that discriminate against LGBT people.

Under the Obama rule, sexual orientation and gender identity were considered protected classes, and federal funds were not allowed to flow to organizations — such as foster homes, adoption groups, medical providers and others — who discriminated on those grounds.

Under the Trump administration’s proposed erasure of that rule, an adoption agency that refuses to work with same-sex couples could still receive federal funds.


The rule change would eliminate language instituted during the Obama administration that specified that grant recipients could not discriminate “based on non-merit factors such as age, disability, sex, race, color, national origin, religion, gender identity, or sexual orientation.”.................






WASHINGTON, DC - JULY 26: (L-R) Newly-adopted son Cardel, 6 smiles at his two adoptive parents, Kelly Vielmo (C) and Jack Montgomery (R) get married by Rev. __________ in Washington, DC on Thursday, July 26, 2012. The same sex couple legally adopted Cardel and his two sisters Ravyn, 2 and Raine, 3 earlier in the day. The children are all siblings from the same mother and have been living with Jack and Kelly for about a year now. They decided to do both events on the same day out of convenience for family members who came to town. (Photo by Linda Davidson / The Washington Post)

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