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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 03:12 PM Nov 2019

Testimony: White House lawyer told Vindman not to discuss Ukraine call

Source: Politico

The senior White House lawyer who placed a record of President Donald Trump’s July 25 call with Ukraine’s president in a top-secret system also instructed at least one official who heard the call not to tell anyone about it, according to testimony heard by House impeachment investigators this week.

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a decorated Army officer who served as the National Security Council’s director for Ukraine, told lawmakers that he went to the lawyer, John Eisenberg, to register his concerns about the call, in which Trump asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate the Bidens, according to a person in the room for Vindman’s deposition on Tuesday.

Eisenberg recorded Vindman’s complaints in notes on a yellow legal pad, then conferred with his deputy Michael Ellis about how to handle the conversation because it was clearly “sensitive,” Vindman testified. The lawyers then decided to move the record of the call into the NSC’s top-secret codeword system—a server normally used to store highly classified material that only a small group of officials can access.

Vindman did not consider the move itself as evidence of a cover-up, according to a person familiar with his testimony. But he said he became disturbed when, a few days later, Eisenberg instructed him not to tell anyone about the call—especially because it was Vindman’s job to coordinate the interagency process with regard to Ukraine policy.


Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/01/white-house-vindman-ukraine-call-063892

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Testimony: White House lawyer told Vindman not to discuss Ukraine call (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Nov 2019 OP
but... but.... but.... MissMillie Nov 2019 #1
This is the thing that shows unusual behavior around placing secrecy around the call Dennis Donovan Nov 2019 #2
Since WHEN are WH lawyers in the Army's Chain of Command ?? Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2019 #7
Coverup. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #3
K&R real Cannabis calm Nov 2019 #4
Look over there ... emails!!! The_jackalope Nov 2019 #5
Subpoena the "other server" where all 45's calls should be stored?? Selectively stored? Evolve Dammit Nov 2019 #6

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
2. This is the thing that shows unusual behavior around placing secrecy around the call
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 03:24 PM
Nov 2019

Apparently, just moving the call transcript to the codeword server wasn't an unusual thing, as the Trump admin had started doing it in 2017 due to leaking. The fact that Eisenberg told Vindman to forget what he saw shows intent to obfuscate the nature of the call.

It's not the crime, it's the cover-up.

Evolve Dammit

(16,697 posts)
6. Subpoena the "other server" where all 45's calls should be stored?? Selectively stored?
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 08:29 PM
Nov 2019

If a server is un-subpoena-able, Brad Parscale will do for now. He's the Drumpf head IT guy for a few years and lead on the 2020 campaign. Surely he knows what recordings, emails, etc. are kept and what is selectively altered or deleted, as he is "in charge" of that group within the WH.

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