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Coventina

(27,092 posts)
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 02:49 AM Nov 2019

German city declares "Nazi emergency"

Source: CBS News

A city in eastern Germany has declared a "Nazi emergency" to tackle the rise of the far-right. Dresden is the capital of Saxony, which is considered a stronghold of the far-right movement.


"'Nazinotstand' means - similar to the climate emergency - that we have a serious problem. The open democratic society is threatened," local councilor Max Aschenbach, who tabled the motion, told BBC News.

Dresden's city council approved a resolution Wednesday night to 39 votes to 29 to pass the motion that declared "anti-democratic, anti-pluralist, misanthropic and right-wing-extremist attitudes and actions, including violence in Dresden, are occurring with increasing frequency."

The motion was opposed by Germany's governing Christian Democrats (CDU), who said it was "primarily an intended provocation."

"'State of emergency' means the collapse or a serious threat to public order," Jan Donhauser, chairman of the CDU City Council Group, told BBC News. "That is not given rudimentarily. Furthermore, the focus on 'right-wing extremism' does not do justice to what we need. We are the guardians of the liberal-democratic basic order and no violence, no matter from which extremist side it comes, is compatible with it."

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dresden-nazi-emergency-declared-in-city-in-saxony-germany-haven-for-far-right-movement/



Posting, due to the US having to fight Nazis in Germany once before.

Sadly, it's an open question as to whether there are more Nazis in Germany or the US at this point....

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German city declares "Nazi emergency" (Original Post) Coventina Nov 2019 OP
More in the US than Germany at this point. GoneOffShore Nov 2019 #1
Shit. calimary Nov 2019 #2
Serious, growing far rt. extremism. Tx for posting, I saw it too. appalachiablue Nov 2019 #3
they need to consider sex education to reduce the sex on the wrong brain, a certainot Nov 2019 #4
? JudyM Nov 2019 #21
the most dominant characteristic in authoritarians is uncertainty avoidance certainot Nov 2019 #22
That is certainly interesting, wasn't familiar with that theory. JudyM Nov 2019 #23
I've been doing it with the wrong hand? lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #24
yep! and because women are more likely to use 2 hands or naturally be able to use the left hand certainot Nov 2019 #25
Self-explanatory bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #5
This The Nation article delves into Nazism and similar in Germany progree Nov 2019 #6
That's terrifying PatSeg Nov 2019 #10
America needs to do the same. Kid Berwyn Nov 2019 #7
And then what? dware Nov 2019 #9
I think it's just a .... reACTIONary Nov 2019 #11
I think you are right. dware Nov 2019 #14
Then we shame the motherfuckers. Kid Berwyn Nov 2019 #15
I agree, dware Nov 2019 #18
We arrest these un-American pos. Americans died against pos like that rockfordfile Nov 2019 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author dware Nov 2019 #19
Are you saying arrest them because they're nazis? dware Nov 2019 #20
I call them Gaetzis. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #12
That's a great name for them. Kid Berwyn Nov 2019 #16
Russia Is Co-opting Angry Young Men dalton99a Nov 2019 #8
I think Putin's partially behind this. C Moon Nov 2019 #13
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
22. the most dominant characteristic in authoritarians is uncertainty avoidance
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:15 AM
Nov 2019

they have an irrational need to avoid uncertainty. it makes things scarier so it drives to to control and impose order, to simplify and make binary, reduce degrees of value to absolutes, and so on. authoritarianism is sometimes measured with the uncertainty avoidance index, or UAI.

wilhelm reich in his 1933 paper thought the fascism he was seeing in nazi youth was caused by sexual repression, particularly masturbation associated with religion, guilt, violence, punishment, paternalism.

iain mcgilchrist in his book about the divided brain observes that the left hemisphere of the brain, connected to the right hand, wants certainty at the expense of truth.

sex on the wrong brain -book- explains the connection - we've been learning sex with the wrong hand. impatient satisfaction-demanding reproductive impulses are interfering with brain functions like math and logic that need patience and objectivity. such as sex and quuantification/numbers = greed and unregulated capitalism. sex and logic = need for finality, premature conclusion, certainty. and it goes back hundreds of thousands of years and explains it is why most humans are right handed - the extra greed, fear, suspicion, competition etc had survival value in times of conflict.

and the anatomy involved makes it worse in males, contributing to misogyny and sexual violence

JudyM

(29,225 posts)
23. That is certainly interesting, wasn't familiar with that theory.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 09:20 AM
Nov 2019

Seems plausible to the extent I understand what you’re saying. Thanks for the explanation.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
25. yep! and because women are more likely to use 2 hands or naturally be able to use the left hand
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 08:07 PM
Nov 2019

more easily, at least because of the motions involved, they have less sowb in general....

progree

(10,901 posts)
6. This The Nation article delves into Nazism and similar in Germany
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:24 AM
Nov 2019

The Neo-Nazi Murder Haunting Germany
The assassination of a local politician is waking up the country to the threat of the radical right.
https://www.thenation.com/article/neo-nazi-germany/

After discussing the above ...

Whatever we eventually learn as the investigation of Ernst proceeds, experts on right-wing extremism have long suspected that the Office of Constitutional Protection isn’t living up to its name. Most notoriously, the office and the country’s other security services failed to stop a series of murders of immigrants from 2000 to 2007 by a terrorist cell called the National Socialist Underground. “There’s been a tendency to underestimate the potential for right-wing terror for a long time,” said Kai Arzheimer, a professor of politics at the University of Mainz who studies right-wing parties.

There has also been a disturbing wave of violence against local officials. There was Henriette Reker, who was seriously wounded in a knife attack during her successful 2015 campaign for mayor of Cologne. There was a small-town mayor in eastern Germany, Markus Nierth, who resigned in 2015 after a neo-Nazi demonstration outside his house. “Papa, I’m afraid of the Nazis,” his young son told him. There was a Social Democratic leader in the town of Bocholt, Thomas Purwin, who stepped down in December 2016 after threats to his family. There was another small-town mayor, Andreas Hollstein, who was stabbed in November 2017 by a man shouting about refugees.

This list could continue: The Association of German Cities says 40 percent of city council members and 20 percent of mayors in Germany reported having received threats. In 2018 more than 1,200 crimes were recorded against local officials.

...

All of this news is bad, but it gets worse, because for the first time since 1945, there is now a strong right-wing party in German politics, the Alternative für Deutschland (AfD). It has the third-largest caucus in the federal Bundestag and is represented in all 16 state parliaments. And in recent state elections in eastern Germany, it made further inroads. The AfD thus achieved something that its postwar extremist precursors never did: It has brought the far right back into everyday political life.

Kid Berwyn

(14,857 posts)
7. America needs to do the same.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:30 AM
Nov 2019
Nationwide Nazi Emergency



Be on the lookout for these morons and cretins...armed and dangerous...call themselves “good people”...

Response to rockfordfile (Reply #17)

Kid Berwyn

(14,857 posts)
16. That's a great name for them.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 04:12 PM
Nov 2019

Naming people what they are, like in the classification of things, is a necessary step in doing something about them.

Many people have no idea that the NAZIs drew much from the wealthy eugenicists and racists from the USA.

https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1796

dalton99a

(81,426 posts)
8. Russia Is Co-opting Angry Young Men
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:01 AM
Nov 2019
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/08/russia-is-co-opting-angry-young-men/568741/

Neo-Nazis, skinheads, soccer hooligans and similar violence-prone groups on the radical right also have the potential to serve as ready, often unwitting, Kremlin agents of influence who can be manipulated to undermine Western democratic institutions. The Kremlin makes use of far-right groups for a number of reasons. First, these groups can be manipulated and indoctrinated through social media, which makes them ripe targets for organizations like the Internet Research Agency, whose trolls can mobilize their members with carefully crafted messaging. Second, these groups are likely to find the Kremlin’s ideology of “traditional Russian values” appealing, particularly when contrasted with Western liberal values such as individual rights, tolerance, and self-expression. Right-wing groups are more easily drawn into the Russian orbit with anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ, and anti-feminist rhetoric and by a narrative that stresses a collectivist, tribal, and racially exclusive worldview.

Finally, the Western radical right is attractive to the Kremlin not only because it provides a pool of recruits—often angry young white men—for stirring up social protests, but also because it serves as a backdoor for establishing ties with far-right political parties and anti-establishment politicians. The Kremlin views such politicians—like France’s Marine Le Pen, Germany’s Frauke Petry, and Italy’s Matteo Salvini—as battering rams that can be used to demolish democratic institutions and to challenge the political establishment’s support for NATO, the EU, and transatlantic ties. Although the Kremlin’s effort to co-opt Western politicians is beyond the scope of this article, it is a key reason why Russia invests resources in cultivating fringe radicals in the West.

For obvious reasons, however, the Kremlin tries to hide its support for far-right groups, both in Russia and elsewhere. A BBC documentary on Russian neo-Nazi soccer hooligans secretly recorded the leader of Moscow’s Spartak “ultras” explaining that his army of followers served as “Putin’s foot soldiers.” Shortly after the documentary aired, Russian police issued a call for all those who had been interviewed in the film to report immediately to local stations across Russia and sign forms saying they had been coerced into lying by the BBC.

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