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brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:01 PM Nov 2019

Nasa's Voyager 2 sends back its first signal from interstellar space

Source: The Guardian

Twelve billion miles from Earth, there is an elusive boundary that marks the edge of the sun’s realm and the start of interstellar space. Voyager 2, the longest-running space mission, has finally beamed back a faint signal from the other side of that frontier, 42 years after its launch.

The Nasa craft is the second ever to travel beyond the heliosphere, the bubble of supersonic charged particles streaming outwards from the sun. Despite setting off a month ahead of its twin, Voyager 1, it crossed the threshold into interstellar space more than six years behind, after taking the scenic route across the solar system and providing what remain the only close-up images of Uranus and Neptune.

Now Voyager 2 has sent back the most detailed look yet at the edge of our solar system – despite Nasa scientists having no idea at the outset that it would survive to see this landmark.

“We didn’t know how large the bubble was and we certainly didn’t know that the spacecraft could live long enough to reach the edge of the bubble and enter interstellar space,” said Prof Ed Stone, of the California Institute of Technology, who has been working on the mission since before its launch in 1977.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/nov/04/nasa-voyager-2-sends-back-first-signal-from-interstellar-space

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Nasa's Voyager 2 sends back its first signal from interstellar space (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2019 OP
Just curious: Why are we reading this from an overseas paper? getagrip_already Nov 2019 #1
...because I have a subscription to the Guardian. brooklynite Nov 2019 #4
I have a subscription to the NYT, WaPo, Guardian and others. The Guardian is my first check-in erronis Nov 2019 #12
NYT did finally tweet about their article on this BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #7
peep. AllaN01Bear Nov 2019 #2
Big K&R! nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #3
"I ... M ... P ...." NT mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 #5
I guess they were surprised to actually hear back from it! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #6
Yeah! IMPEACH THE BASTARD or...the Earth gets it! machoneman Nov 2019 #8
A good companion of my adulthood. Harker Nov 2019 #9
Yep. NASA actually stands for 'tax dollars,.. spent right!' Volaris Nov 2019 #13
In all the dark places where you walk, may the gods be with you. Ancient Egyptian prayer. n/t sarge43 Nov 2019 #10
Oh, Delphinus Nov 2019 #23
Thank you. sarge43 Nov 2019 #24
I appreciate Delphinus Nov 2019 #25
I understand sarge43 Nov 2019 #28
Wonderful stuff. I'm glad to hear Voyager 2 is still sailing on. Hekate Nov 2019 #11
11.3 billion miles away, and counting... LudwigPastorius Nov 2019 #14
Pretty amazing! lunatica Nov 2019 #15
They designed them tough. Igel Nov 2019 #18
It's one tick away from small interstellar drones lunatica Nov 2019 #19
Incredible. Simply incredible. Pepsidog Nov 2019 #16
k&r n/t lordsummerisle Nov 2019 #17
It would be awesome to know of it's fate, such as ... Auggie Nov 2019 #20
Here's three sources a little closer to the horse's mouth.... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Nov 2019 #29
Yeah science..... Hotler Nov 2019 #22
Utterly... Anon-C Nov 2019 #26
Thank you. Fantastic story. N/t. okieinpain Nov 2019 #27

getagrip_already

(14,697 posts)
1. Just curious: Why are we reading this from an overseas paper?
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:08 PM
Nov 2019

And not a domestic one?

Have the news outlets fallen that far?

Great news btw, just wish our press covered science.

erronis

(15,222 posts)
12. I have a subscription to the NYT, WaPo, Guardian and others. The Guardian is my first check-in
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 04:10 PM
Nov 2019

during the day. Perhaps because it and Reuters (another great source) are up earlier than the US outlets generally are.

Somehow I've lost my subscription cards to WSJ, Breitbart, StormyThingy, etc.

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
7. NYT did finally tweet about their article on this
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 03:01 PM
Nov 2019

(you have to dig through their science sections)



TEXT
Kenneth Chang @kchangnyt

Forty-two years ago, Jimmy Carter was president, and NASA's two Voyager spacecraft launched. Today, Jimmy Carter is still going, and so are the Voyagers! https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/science/voyager-2-interstellar-solar-wind.html
A view of Neptune and its moon Triton from a distance of about 3 million miles, taken by Voyager 2 during its flyby of the blue giant in 1989.
Voyager 2’s Discoveries From Interstellar Space

In its journey beyond the boundary of the solar wind’s bubble, the probe observed some notable differences from its twin, Voyager 1.
nytimes.com
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12:21 PM - Nov 4, 2019


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/science/voyager-2-interstellar-solar-wind.html

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
6. I guess they were surprised to actually hear back from it!
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:55 PM
Nov 2019


Wonder if it will suffer the same fate as its later iterations -



Harker

(14,010 posts)
9. A good companion of my adulthood.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 03:53 PM
Nov 2019

Launched shortly after I graduated high school. I sat in a planetarium as live images from Saturn came in line by line.

By any measure, a tremendously successful project.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
24. Thank you.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:09 PM
Nov 2019

I came across it in Harlan Ellison's essay about the Voyager 2 passage around Jupiter.

Fascinating that words first spoken at least 4 thousand years ago are still appropriate today.

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
25. I appreciate
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:40 PM
Nov 2019

you expounding on this. It is amazing how some things that seem so disparate and far reaching actually tie back into each other. Reading the story about VGER 2 put me into a magical place ... what you wrote deepens it greatly.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
28. I understand
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 11:12 PM
Nov 2019

These explorers aren't just machines. There's something alive about them; they're courageous and hopeful.
They explore and discover; it's a very human passion. They send us treasure.

LudwigPastorius

(9,130 posts)
14. 11.3 billion miles away, and counting...
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 04:27 PM
Nov 2019

It takes a signal, traveling at the speed of light from this spacecraft, almost 17 hours to get to us.

And yet, (to really get a sense of how vast space is) to travel the distance to the star closest to the Solar System, it would still take Voyager 2 over 70,000 years.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
15. Pretty amazing!
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 04:30 PM
Nov 2019

So many of our space faring vehicles have lasted longer than they were expected to. It’s great!

Igel

(35,296 posts)
18. They designed them tough.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 06:02 PM
Nov 2019

From the first idea in the '60s under Johnson, to the green light and all the real planning/design/budgeting under Nixon (and then Ford), till final testing under Carter.

These things take years to plan and build. Voyager I was launched in 9/77, when they were still under Ford's last budget and Carter not in office for 9 months. Voyager 2 was launched earlier by a couple of weeks.

Now we have cubesats.

Auggie

(31,156 posts)
20. It would be awesome to know of it's fate, such as ...
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 06:46 PM
Nov 2019

will it ever cross paths with another life form?

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
21. Here's three sources a little closer to the horse's mouth....
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 08:21 PM
Nov 2019
NASA/Voyager WEB Site

Link: https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/voyager/index.html

NASA Article:
Nov. 1, 2019
Voyager 2 Illuminates Boundary of Interstellar Space

Link: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/voyager-2-illuminates-boundary-of-interstellar-space

(snip)
The Voyager probes launched in 1977, and both flew by Jupiter and Saturn. Voyager 2 changed course at Saturn in order to fly by Uranus and Neptune, performing the only close flybys of those planets in history. The Voyager probes completed their Grand Tour of the planets and began their Interstellar Mission to reach the heliopause in 1989. Voyager 1, the faster of the two probes, is currently over 13.6 billion miles (22 billion kilometers) from the Sun, while Voyager 2 is 11.3 billion miles (18.2 billion kilometers) from the Sun. It takes light about 16.5 hours to travel from Voyager 2 to Earth. By comparison, light traveling from the Sun takes about eight minutes to reach Earth.


JPL WEB Site:

Link: https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/

--------------

Space.com

Voyager 2's Trip to Interstellar Space Deepens Some Mysteries Beyond Our Solar System


Link: https://www.space.com/nasa-voyager-2-interstellar-space-mysteries.html

(snips)
"We didn't know how large the bubble was," Stone said. "And we certainly didn't know that the spacecraft could live long enough to reach the edge of the bubble and leave the bubble and enter interstellar space."

(A quick note here: Entering interstellar space is not the same thing as leaving the solar system, because the sun's gravitational influence extends far beyond the heliosphere. Indeed, trillions of comets orbit in the Oort Cloud, thousands of AU from the sun, and they're still considered part of the solar system.)

But the Voyagers are nearing the end of the line. Each spacecraft is powered by three radioisotope thermoelectric generators (RTGs), which convert to electricity the heat generated by the radioactive decay of plutonium-238. The RTGs' power output decreases over time as more and more of the plutonium decays.


KY........ ......to NASA

Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #21)

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