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(26,486 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 02:39 PM Nov 2019

Sondland Updates Impeachment Testimony, Describing Ukraine Quid Pro Quo

Source: New York Times

Michael S. Schmidt
By Michael S. Schmidt
Nov. 5, 2019
Updated 1:33 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON — A critical witness in the impeachment inquiry offered Congress substantial new testimony this week, revealing that he told a top Ukrainian official that the country likely would not receive American military aid unless it publicly committed to investigations President Trump wanted.

The disclosure from Gordon D. Sondland, the United States ambassador to the European Union, in four new pages of sworn testimony released on Tuesday, confirmed his involvement in essentially laying out a quid pro quo to Ukraine that he had previously not acknowledged.

The testimony offered several major new details beyond the account he gave the inquiry in a 10-hour interview last month. Mr. Sondland provided a more robust description of his own role in alerting the Ukrainians that they needed to go along with investigative requests being demanded by the president’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani. By early September, Mr. Sondland said, he had become convinced that military aid and a White House meeting were conditioned on Ukraine committing to those investigations.

Mr. Sondland had said in a text message exchange in early September with William B. Taylor Jr., the top American diplomat in Ukraine, that the president had been clear there was no quid pro quo between the aid and investigations of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., his son and other Democrats. But Mr. Sondland testified last month that he was only repeating what Mr. Trump had told him, leaving open the question of whether he believed the president. The new account suggested that Mr. Sondland may have not been completely forthcoming with Mr. Taylor, and that he was, in fact, aware that the aid was contingent upon the investigations.

In his updated testimony, Mr. Sondland recounted how he had discussed the linkage with Andriy Yermak, a top adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, on the sidelines of a Sept. 1 meeting between Vice President Mike Pence and Mr. Zelensky in Warsaw. Mr. Zelensky had discussed the suspension of aid with Mr. Pence, Mr. Sondland said.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/us/politics/impeachment-trump.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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Sondland Updates Impeachment Testimony, Describing Ukraine Quid Pro Quo (Original Post) swag Nov 2019 OP
He's getting nervous, he figures he'd be better off if he corrected the "truth". George II Nov 2019 #1
Yup. Sounds like it. Hoping to avoid jail. KPN Nov 2019 #3
I bet there will be many. Remember Jared had multiple updates to his SC applications. NurseJackie Nov 2019 #5
Hope so. KPN Nov 2019 #19
lol yeah.... phandancer917 Nov 2019 #7
His wife probably told him their hotel business is tanking from his lying Submariner Nov 2019 #15
In light of subsequent witness testimony, it was only a matter of time before Sondland patphil Nov 2019 #2
not Quid Pro Quo, extortion. nt yaesu Nov 2019 #4
EXTORTION EXTORTION EXTORTION EXTORTION EXTORTION groundloop Nov 2019 #9
and BRIBERY! ffr Nov 2019 #17
+1 Hassler Nov 2019 #10
Upon further reflection. gibraltar72 Nov 2019 #6
I'm reading the Delphinus Nov 2019 #8
Mr. Zelensky had discussed the suspension of aid with Mr. Pence groundloop Nov 2019 #11
Yup - next chapter. NBachers Nov 2019 #13
This is why the Rethugs have begun the he did it, but it's not impeachable line. kairos12 Nov 2019 #12
In other words Fritz Walter Nov 2019 #14
Mr. Vice President. You knew about the extortion and bribery too? ffr Nov 2019 #16
The word "perjury" is very good for refreshing the memory. DavidDvorkin Nov 2019 #18
Pence said he didn't know anything about it!! Duppers Nov 2019 #20
Linking Pence directly to explicit talk of the conditions Bradical79 Nov 2019 #21
No no no Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2019 #22

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
5. I bet there will be many. Remember Jared had multiple updates to his SC applications.
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:25 PM
Nov 2019

They're all dishonest crooks.

patphil

(6,158 posts)
2. In light of subsequent witness testimony, it was only a matter of time before Sondland
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 02:47 PM
Nov 2019

engaged in a little butt covering.
I think his original testimony was deliberately designed to muddy the waters and defuse the whole QPQ problem.
Now we shall see how Trump feels about his man Sondland's new position.
He'll probably say he doesn't know him, and has his picture taken with a lot of people.

Patrick Phillips

groundloop

(11,517 posts)
9. EXTORTION EXTORTION EXTORTION EXTORTION EXTORTION
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:49 PM
Nov 2019

I've said this for a long time..... IT'S EXTORTION!

SAY IT AGAIN - EXTORTION.

quid pro quo implies two parties doing favors for each other, that's not the case here. tRump was withholding aid (which had been approved by Congress) and rightfully belonged to Ukraine, in exchange for Ukraine doing dirty work for dirty donnie's campaign. THAT'S EXTORTION.

Hassler

(3,370 posts)
10. +1
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:51 PM
Nov 2019

Forget the Latin. It's Extortion, it's Bribery. Spelled out in the Constitution as an impeachable offense.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
14. In other words
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 04:35 PM
Nov 2019

The rat-fuckery just went into overdrive.

And what perfect timing: with elections going on today across the country!

ffr

(22,665 posts)
16. Mr. Vice President. You knew about the extortion and bribery too?
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 04:36 PM
Nov 2019

Oh my word!

We'll need to speak to you too now.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
20. Pence said he didn't know anything about it!!
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 05:36 PM
Nov 2019

Liar.

...meeting between Vice President Mike Pence and Mr. Zelensky in Warsaw. Mr. Zelensky had discussed the suspension of aid with Mr. Pence, Mr. Sondland said.


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