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George II

(67,782 posts)
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 07:44 PM Nov 2019

Cenk Uygur Files to Run For Congress in Katie Hill's District

Source: Mediaite.com

BREAKING: "The Young Turks" talk show host @cenkuygur filed today to run for Congress to replace resigned former Congresswoman Katie Hill. #CA25

Progressive pundit Cenk Uygur, founder and host at the digital news outlet The Young Turks, filed to run for Congress in California's 25 Congressional District, which is the seat that former Democratic Rep. Katie Hill resigned from last month after nude photos of her were published by a conservative blog and the Daily Mail.

The Cenk for Congress filing popped up on Wednesday on the FEC website, a day after Uygur endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders for president; he also teased some "dramatic news on Thursday" and told viewers to "stay tuned." But he is not commenting publicly on the matter, taking to Twitter shortly after news began circulating about his filed to state, "To all reporters: No comment."

The district, which covers parts of Los Angeles County and Ventura County, Uygur is eying was vacated on October 28 after her estranged husband leaked and wrote on Facebook about Hill's open marriage, her affair with a campaign staffer and an alleged affair with a congressional staffer, and her nude photos. The RedState.com blogger behind most of the Hill exposs was revealed by Mediaite to be a Republican campaign consultant who worked for two politicians who attempted runs against Hill, even serving as a campaign manager for a GOP candidate running for Hill's seat as recently as September.



Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/cenk-uygur-files-to-run-for-congress-in-katie-hills-district/






I wonder if he was involved in outing those pictures in preparation for this?
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Cenk Uygur Files to Run For Congress in Katie Hill's District (Original Post) George II Nov 2019 OP
I didn't even know he lived in this district. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #1
According to mediaite, his current zip code isn't in that district. George II Nov 2019 #5
I guess his plan is to move here after Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #8
I wonder why he's using a San Francisco bank? George II Nov 2019 #10
Google the bank Mona Nov 2019 #62
Thanks, Mona, for the link. I knew nothing about them; it warmed my heart. stuffmatters Nov 2019 #91
Christy Smith agrees.. Cha Nov 2019 #84
What party...Justice Democrats? brush Nov 2019 #22
He will probably run as a democrat Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #25
He was kicked out of the Justice Democrats. TwilightZone Nov 2019 #33
We're all Democrats whether someone is progressive or moderate JonLP24 Nov 2019 #41
See post #47. brush Nov 2019 #48
I am a Justice Democrat RandiFan1290 Nov 2019 #46
Just stop trying to remove proven winner Dem incumbents. Go after repug incumbents. brush Nov 2019 #47
The Establishment just were pushing someone to primary Tulsi Gabbard pretty much forcing her to JonLP24 Nov 2019 #51
Gabbard? She's not running for re-election. Is she even a Dem? brush Nov 2019 #52
She is Democrat JonLP24 Nov 2019 #54
She's not running for re-election. Funny how someone allegedly being so liberal appears on FOX... brush Nov 2019 #56
I don't believe Hillary Clinton was correct & I prefer to focus on what is real with Russia & the JonLP24 Nov 2019 #58
We disagree. brush Nov 2019 #59
That was over Mueller JonLP24 Nov 2019 #60
Oh Bull.. poor Gabbard.. goes on tucker's fox and Whines Cha Nov 2019 #97
The 9/11 families are suing Saudi Arabia and she is standing with them JonLP24 Nov 2019 #103
Hillary was there first helping 9/11 Families! .. long before Cha Nov 2019 #104
She has some unfortunate quotes JonLP24 Nov 2019 #105
"quotes"? Those are gabbard's thoughts.. how Cha Nov 2019 #106
I"m in gabbard's District and I'm Grateful we're having Kai Kahele Cha Nov 2019 #78
Yeah.. Progressive Group Ousts Cenk Uygur Over Past Sexist Writing Cha Nov 2019 #79
Not a requirement, IIRC Retrograde Nov 2019 #65
Just investigated this: George II Nov 2019 #102
Mediaite Link IronLionZion Nov 2019 #2
Thanks. I found that one a couple of minutes ago and edited the OP George II Nov 2019 #4
pass IADEMO2004 Nov 2019 #3
I will vote for him for you, then :) Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #11
I'm cool with that. IADEMO2004 Nov 2019 #18
Why would you even imply he had anything to do with those pictures. So anyone running for her vsrazdem Nov 2019 #6
same reaction to that statement Mona Nov 2019 #63
I doubt it JonLP24 Nov 2019 #7
This on twitter: George II Nov 2019 #9
Cenk reminds me of Alan Grayson bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #12
Will have to give up his TV gig ? ritapria Nov 2019 #13
No thanks!!! LeftInTX Nov 2019 #14
I hope you are right, and I agree with you on the Aremenian genocide, and the "positions" he has still_one Nov 2019 #24
Thanks for answering the question I was going to raise. TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #28
That's unconscionable. jcmaine72 Nov 2019 #55
Yes, he's still a republican, kinda an ass Demonaut Nov 2019 #95
One Tulsi in Congress isn't enough? Itchinjim Nov 2019 #15
She's leaving Polybius Nov 2019 #27
He likely won't be getting in anywhere. TwilightZone Nov 2019 #34
I just read that this is the district in which Pappadopoulos is running. George II Nov 2019 #16
and possibly......alt right uber scum Mike Cernovich Celerity Nov 2019 #21
Gag! nt TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #30
From Katie Hill Gothmog Nov 2019 #17
Uygur doesn't even live in that district.....yet. George II Nov 2019 #20
Now that's a tweet!! onenote Nov 2019 #23
Ugh. ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #19
I like him Polybius Nov 2019 #26
I like Cenk and Kyle TheFarseer Nov 2019 #29
I enjoy watching them both Polybius Nov 2019 #31
I saw that TheFarseer Nov 2019 #32
I like Kyle, but he voted Green in 2016 and even 2012 Polybius Nov 2019 #35
I always vote Democrat in the end but I think in order for Democrats to win JonLP24 Nov 2019 #43
I don't like Kyle at all. StevieM Nov 2019 #66
Kyle? Is that Kyle Kulinski? George II Nov 2019 #70
I like Cenk and would vote for him Raine Nov 2019 #40
Progressive Group Ousts Cenk Uygur Over Past Sexist Writing Cha Nov 2019 #81
Well he's not an option for me IF he was Raine Nov 2019 #92
lulz he is not left obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #68
Progressive Group Ousts Cenk Uygur Over Past Sexist Writing Cha Nov 2019 #80
Fuck no. RandySF Nov 2019 #36
Sharice Davids: BREAKING: The House just passed my bill, the SERV Act! Cha Nov 2019 #85
The one good thing is that WhiteTara Nov 2019 #37
If it's going to cost him money he won't do it.... comradebillyboy Nov 2019 #38
Ana Kasparian will do fine -- she is promoted to executive producer JonLP24 Nov 2019 #42
He filed. Let's see what happens. WhiteTara Nov 2019 #57
Why would he have to give up his show? Jose Garcia Nov 2019 #67
LOL DarthDem Nov 2019 #39
This guy is always pissing someone off...misogynist or genocide denier or third party splitter pecosbob Nov 2019 #44
Uhhhhh, no William Weehours Nov 2019 #45
Right now it's a crowded field on both sides... brooklynite Nov 2019 #49
They ALL run in the same primary, the top two go to the general election. George II Nov 2019 #50
Nyet underpants Nov 2019 #53
Voters in that district: "Who?" MineralMan Nov 2019 #61
If people back a misogynist who is also a genocide denier... EllieBC Nov 2019 #64
Yep. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #71
An extreme, rank misogynist and genocide denier AT BEST obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Nov 2019 #72
One of the strongest, bravest, progressive American voices.! Good Luck to him! LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #73
Reminder: Uygur's "TYT" is funded by right winger Buddy Roehmer and Russia Today.... George II Nov 2019 #74
Selective forgiveness is an epidemic. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #75
I doubt it's coincidental that someone who denied the genocide happened to name his group... George II Nov 2019 #76
I'm sure it was a combination of a few things LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #77
His position on the Armenian genocide is just one of the more obvious strikes against him.. George II Nov 2019 #87
... LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #89
Whatever....on a lighter note.... George II Nov 2019 #90
I remember that so well. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #96
Bull-Progressive Group Ousts Cenk Uygur Over Past Sexist Writing Cha Nov 2019 #82
Whooosh 2.0 LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #86
"We do not feel that Mr. Uygur is fit to lead or participate in an organization.." Cha Nov 2019 #93
Brawaaa! UPdate Tweet from Christy Smith! Cha Nov 2019 #83
This isn't be the first time someone associated (currently or in the past) with Justice Democrats... George II Nov 2019 #88
No, it is not.. and thankfully they LOST. Cha Nov 2019 #94
That's where the school shooting was today. Kablooie Nov 2019 #98
Tweet about Uygur's TYT website: George II Nov 2019 #99
Yuck. Owl Nov 2019 #100
cenk Whines about getting FIRED from msnbc bc President Obama!.. Cha Nov 2019 #101

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
41. We're all Democrats whether someone is progressive or moderate
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 02:59 AM
Nov 2019

Deedra Abboud was a Justice Democrat but lost to Krysten Sinema who voted for Barr and is voting with Trump most of the time.

AOC, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, Pramila Jayapal, Raul Grivajla are great Democrats & great for our party.
They are all voting against Trump the vast majority of the time.

Policies

Creating a new infrastructure program called the "Green New Deal"[26]
Ending arms sales to countries that violate human rights such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt
Enacting a federal jobs guarantee, which would promise all Americans a job paying $15 per hour plus benefits
Ending the death penalty
Ending the practice of unilaterally waging war, except as a last resort to defend U.S. territory
Ending the War on Drugs in favor of legalization, regulation, and taxation of drugs, and pardoning all non-violent drug offenders and treating all drug addicts
Ensuring free speech on college campuses and supporting net neutrality
Ensuring universal education as a right, including free four-year public college and university education
Ensuring universal healthcare as a right
Establishing paid maternity leave, paid vacation leave, and free childcare
Expanding anti-discrimination laws to apply to LGBT people - see Equality Act
Expanding background checks on firearms and banning high capacity magazines and assault weapons
Funding Planned Parenthood and other contraceptive and abortion services, and recognizing reproductive rights
Implementing electoral reform and publicly financed elections nationwide to make irrelevant and obsolete fundraising from large corporations and the wealthy
Implementing instant-runoff voting nationwide in an effort to make third-party and independent candidates more viable
Implementing the Buffett Rule, ending offshore financial centers, "chain[ing]" the capital gains and income taxes, and increasing the estate tax
Making the minimum wage a living wage and tying it to inflation
Pardoning Edward Snowden, prosecuting CIA torturers and DoD war criminals, shutting down the Guantanamo Bay detention camp and all other extrajudicial prisons, and ending warrantless spying and bulk data collection by the National Security Agency
Passing the Paycheck Fairness Act
Abolishing the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency (ICE)
Reforming police by mandating body cameras, establishing community oversight boards, eliminating broken windows policing, ending stop and frisk, and appointing special prosecutors to hold police accountable in courts
Renegotiating other free trade deals CAFTA-DR, and NAFTA and opposing the Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China and the World Trade Organization
Stopping any reductions to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, and establishing single-payer universal healthcare
Stopping anthropogenic climate change through an ecological revolution and upholding the United States' participation in the Paris Climate Agreement
Uncompromisingly rejecting President Trump's immigration proposals and policies, particularly Executive Order 13769 and deportation of illegal immigrants, and implementing comprehensive immigration reform which will include giving non-criminal illegal immigrants a path to citizenship

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Democrats#Ideology_and_political_issues

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
51. The Establishment just were pushing someone to primary Tulsi Gabbard pretty much forcing her to
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:59 AM
Nov 2019

drop out of her House race. DCCC are blacklisting progressives that work on Progressive campaigns.

Progressives clash with DCCC leader in closed-door meeting

Leaders of the Congressional Progressive Caucus clashed Wednesday with the head of Democratic campaign arm over a new policy that they say hurts primary challengers nationwide — but which campaign officials have no plans to drop.

A meeting between Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chair Cheri Bustos and progressive members became heated as Bustos' liberal colleagues pressed her to reverse course on a just-announced rule barring Democratic consultants from working with primary challengers if they want to have business with the national campaign arm.

Progressive Caucus co-chairs Mark Pocan (D-Wis.) and Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash), and caucus member Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), requested the meeting with Bustos to explain why the new policy issued to consultants last week created a "monopoly" of DCCC-sanctioned vendors, and would "blackball" too many talented vendors and consultants.

But Bustos made clear that she would not change the policy, which she argues is crucial to protecting Democratic incumbents after last fall’s huge gains in the House.

Progressives erupted this week after DCCC announced the policy cha

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/27/dccc-cheri-bustos-progressives-1241010

Let progressives & moderates run in primaries and let the best one win but they shouldn't rig (meaning money & pressure to drop out) it for one side.

Progressives riled by secret tape of Steny Hoyer asking candidate to drop out of race

House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer is in hot water with progressives after he was secretly recorded asking one of their preferred candidates to drop out of Colorado’s 6th congressional district primary.

The candidate, Levi Tillemann, taped the Maryland Democrat saying that he’s supporting the other candidate in the race, Jason Crow, “because a judgement was made very early on.”

Crow, a corporate lawyer and Army veteran, is on the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee’s “Red to Blue” list, a program that gives “top-tier” candidates organizational and fundraising support. Tillemann is an author, inventor and formerly an appointed adviser to the Energy Department during the Obama administration.

“So your position is, a decision was made very early on before voters had a say," Tillemann said. "That’s fine, because the DCCC knows better than the voters of the 6th Congressional District and we should line up that candidate.”

Hoyer said, “That’s certainly a consequence of our decision.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/04/26/progressives-riled-secret-tape-steny-hoyer-asking-candidate-drop-out-race/555404002/

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
54. She is Democrat
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:07 AM
Nov 2019

Last year she was 121st most liberal member of the House with a .34 which puts her between moderate & progressive territory.

#307 0.34 Rep. Tulsi Gabbard [D-HI2]

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2018/house/ideology

brush

(53,764 posts)
56. She's not running for re-election. Funny how someone allegedly being so liberal appears on FOX...
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:14 AM
Nov 2019

so regularly to bash Dems and spew repug talking points. Again, is she really a Dem? Hillary didn't warn us for nothing.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
58. I don't believe Hillary Clinton was correct & I prefer to focus on what is real with Russia & the
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:27 AM
Nov 2019

Republicans.

Her policy positions are to end regime change wars like Libya, Iraq, etc. Focus our war on Terror on the ideology that attacked the US on 9/11 wahabbism-salafi which includes ending military aid & standing up to Saudi Arabia. Slash the defense budget and use that money for health care, education, $15 minimum wage. As a low polling primary candidate she has to advertise on Youtube and take interviews with who she can. She is good at finding common ground which is what party leaders praised her for.

https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/tulsi-gabbard/

She only bashes the party establishment who treated her like a rising star but turned on her after she endorsed Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primary and the media treats her with more smears & disrespect (all the candidates have flaws that media could hammer on) so I don't blame her with being upset with the establishment.

She also voted in favor of the impeachment inquiry. She mostly votes along party lines.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
60. That was over Mueller
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:54 AM
Nov 2019

I disagreed I would have impeached Trump over Russia but Tulsi Gabbard supports the impeachment inquiry regarding Trump-Ukraine.

How Democrats and Republicans
Voted on Trump Impeachment Rules

Tulsi Gabbard Hawaii 2 Y

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/31/us/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry-house-vote.html

Cha

(297,146 posts)
97. Oh Bull.. poor Gabbard.. goes on tucker's fox and Whines
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 03:21 AM
Nov 2019

about Dems.

Tulsi Gabbard tells Fox News host Tucker Carlson that DNC debate criteria isn't transparent

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287260728

Gabbard was just on FOX/Tucker Carlson again trying to position herself as champion of the 9/11 Families..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287330643

"Senator Clinton secured $12 million in federal funding to help establish the World Trade Center..

https://www.ufanyc.org/pdf/hillaryendorsement1106.pdf

Hillary Clinton Has Always Stood with the 9/11 First Responders and Their Families

https://aflcio.org/2016/9/9/hillary-clinton-has-always-stood-911-first-responders-and-their-families

"Thank you, Hillary Clinton! After our country was attacked on September 11th, 2001 you fought for the first responder's."


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211119644

Tulsi Gabbard goes on Tucker Carlson to bash the DNC. WTF?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=259042



https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211119644


BIG ******* NEWS FLASH for Gabbard! It was President Obama's Foreign Policy. Not Hillary's!

Could gabbard at least get that right?!


This is who we want in Hawaiil.. not gabbard who whines on fox news about Hard Working DEMS..


gabbard not a "peace" candidate"






Like I said.. always whining about Dems..










JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
103. The 9/11 families are suing Saudi Arabia and she is standing with them
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 09:44 PM
Nov 2019

Demanding more release on documents regarding Saudi Arabia. She was with a 9/11 victim family member when she filed in New Hampshire. Did you know Obama vetoed a bill that would have allowed 9-11 victims families to sue Saudi Arabia but Schumer overturned his veto?

She has she said she is Dove when it comes to regime change wars you know like Iraq when Saddam who didn't attack us on 9-11 but she is a hawk on the war on terror. Assad, Gaddafi, Saddam didn't attack us on 9-11 but wahabbi group like.al-Qaeda did it with Saudi Arabia's help.

She isn't perfect but her foreign policy is better than most of the candidates in the race.

Cha

(297,146 posts)
104. Hillary was there first helping 9/11 Families! .. long before
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 09:49 PM
Nov 2019

gabbard.

Hillary.. the one gabbard is smearing all over the place..

gabbard lost any credibility with me a long time ago when she used to go on fox and whine about.. President Obama and praise putin..




JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
105. She has some unfortunate quotes
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 09:53 PM
Nov 2019

But so do a lot of the other candidates. Keep in mind those statements were made before Russia hacked the election so the context is a little different.

Cha

(297,146 posts)
106. "quotes"? Those are gabbard's thoughts.. how
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 10:04 PM
Nov 2019

she thinks.. I consider us fortunate in Hawaii that we will have Kai Kahele representing us after 2021..


Cha

(297,146 posts)
78. I"m in gabbard's District and I'm Grateful we're having Kai Kahele
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:30 PM
Nov 2019

as our next Dem Rep.

He'll be working for the People Not on fox "news" whining about Dems like gabbard always does.



Oh wait.. here she is on MSNBC, too.


This is who Hawaii wants.. State Senator Kai Kahele..



I just googled and there's this..

House seat challenger beating Tulsi Gabbard with Hawaii donors

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/10/tulsi-gabbard-with-hawaii-donors-house-challenge/

Tulsi Gabbard Raised Negative $20 for Her House

snip// Ah Ha!

The absence of any fundraising or spending on her House race has left political observers with the impression that Gabbard may not return to Congress at all if her White House bid falls short. By contrast, during this quarter in the 2018 election cycle, Gabbard brought in more than $225,000 in net contributions, per federal filings.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tulsi-gabbard-raised-negative-dollar20-for-her-house-campaign

Cha

(297,146 posts)
79. Yeah.. Progressive Group Ousts Cenk Uygur Over Past Sexist Writing
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:34 PM
Nov 2019

The Justice Democrats ousted Cenk Uygur, one of its founding board members and a creator of progressive online network The Young Turks, following the Thursday revelation that Uygur had authored sexist blogposts in the early 2000s.

The left-leaning political organization, which Uygur and others established this year to support progressive primary challenges against Democratic incumbents in Congress, made the announcement Friday. The group also severed ties with David Koller, who co-founded The Young Turks with Uygur and served as Justice Democrats’ treasurer. A 2004 blogpost in which Koller used degrading language about women he and Uygur met on a road-trip surfaced this week as well.

“The words and conduct in Mr. Uygur and Mr. Koller’s posts degrade what it means to be a Justice Democrat,” Justice Democrats executive director Saikat Chakrabarti said in a Friday evening statement announcing the board’s decision to demand Uygur and Koller’s resignations. “We do not feel that Mr. Uygur is fit to lead or participate in an organization that truly believes women’s issues and the issues of black and brown people are all of our issues.”

The Justice Democrats board reached its decision to call for their departures after hearing Uygur’s “side of the story” and consulting with the political candidates the group has endorsed, Chakrabarti said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/justice-democrats-ousts-cenk-uygur_us_5a3eb4d1e4b025f99e178181

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210020159

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
65. Not a requirement, IIRC
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 02:07 PM
Nov 2019

Congressional districts get redrawn after every census: requiring representatives t move when their district changes would be a burden. There's precedent for running in a nearby district: when Garamendi won Tauscher's old seat he didn't live in the district either.

George II

(67,782 posts)
102. Just investigated this:
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 08:56 PM
Nov 2019

University of Washington political science professor George Lovell says when it comes to residency for congressional candidates, there is just one requirement.

“The U.S. Constitution just requires that the person be a resident of the state,” Lovell said.

Which makes this even more curious:

STATEMENT OF CANDIDACY
FILING FEC-1172479
1. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
714 South Gay Street
Knoxville, TN 37902


https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/H8NY15148/1172479/

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
6. Why would you even imply he had anything to do with those pictures. So anyone running for her
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 07:50 PM
Nov 2019

seat has something to do with outing her pictures. Please read your own post and stop with the conspiracy theories.

The RedState.com blogger behind most of the Hill exposs was revealed by Mediaite to be a Republican campaign consultant who worked for two politicians who attempted runs against Hill, even serving as a campaign manager for a GOP candidate running for Hill's seat as recently as September.

Mona

(135 posts)
63. same reaction to that statement
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 01:25 PM
Nov 2019

...to suggest that he had something to do with releasing the pictures is really wacky.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
12. Cenk reminds me of Alan Grayson
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 08:33 PM
Nov 2019

and i think he would make just about as much impact as Grayson, which is to say he would make headlines but few would pay much attention and no impact at all in the end

LeftInTX

(25,254 posts)
14. No thanks!!!
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 08:47 PM
Nov 2019

I'm Armenian....He's an genocide denier.

He has snowball's chance in hell of winning. I believe they already have a democratic candidate lined up.

Vote for Christy Smith!


still_one

(92,136 posts)
24. I hope you are right, and I agree with you on the Aremenian genocide, and the "positions" he has
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 10:57 PM
Nov 2019

taken. He has played both sides of the field on that one


TexasTowelie

(112,118 posts)
28. Thanks for answering the question I was going to raise.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 11:34 PM
Nov 2019

It looks like there is a Democrat in the race that will make a fine representative.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
55. That's unconscionable.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:08 AM
Nov 2019

I could never support, let alone vote for, anyone who denies the Armenian genocide. I'm stunned that so many here don't seem to have a problem with this. The question is why? I can think of few things more despicable and anti-progressive than embracing someone who denies a documented act of genocide.

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
34. He likely won't be getting in anywhere.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 11:49 PM
Nov 2019

His misogynistic past probably won't go over well in the current political climate.

His Armenian Genocide denial past probably won't help much, either.

Polybius

(15,385 posts)
26. I like him
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 11:24 PM
Nov 2019

He's a little too far to the left for me, but he's not nearly as bad as some of the other Justice Democrats like Jimmy Dore and Kyle Kulinski. Cenk voted for Clinton in 2016.

Polybius

(15,385 posts)
31. I enjoy watching them both
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 11:36 PM
Nov 2019

But Kyle barely warms up to even Warren. Him and Cenk recently had a debate over that.

TheFarseer

(9,322 posts)
32. I saw that
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 11:43 PM
Nov 2019

I get strongly arguing in the primary for who you want and they were mostly playing devils advocate in that debate. I hope they don’t say anything they can’t walk back if necessary - I don’t think they have. Jimmy Dore definitely has crossed that line.

Polybius

(15,385 posts)
35. I like Kyle, but he voted Green in 2016 and even 2012
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 11:50 PM
Nov 2019

His last vote for a Democrat in the General Election was Obama in 2008. He's young enough where he can change, but so far he's given no indication. Cenk gets a bad rap here. He always votes Democrat in the end.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
43. I always vote Democrat in the end but I think in order for Democrats to win
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 03:17 AM
Nov 2019

they have to beat the Green Party on policies. If the Democrats triangulate too much they risk third party votes.

Cha

(297,146 posts)
81. Progressive Group Ousts Cenk Uygur Over Past Sexist Writing
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:38 PM
Nov 2019

The Justice Democrats ousted Cenk Uygur, one of its founding board members and a creator of progressive online network The Young Turks, following the Thursday revelation that Uygur had authored sexist blogposts in the early 2000s.

The left-leaning political organization, which Uygur and others established this year to support progressive primary challenges against Democratic incumbents in Congress, made the announcement Friday. The group also severed ties with David Koller, who co-founded The Young Turks with Uygur and served as Justice Democrats’ treasurer. A 2004 blogpost in which Koller used degrading language about women he and Uygur met on a road-trip surfaced this week as well.

“The words and conduct in Mr. Uygur and Mr. Koller’s posts degrade what it means to be a Justice Democrat,” Justice Democrats executive director Saikat Chakrabarti said in a Friday evening statement announcing the board’s decision to demand Uygur and Koller’s resignations. “We do not feel that Mr. Uygur is fit to lead or participate in an organization that truly believes women’s issues and the issues of black and brown people are all of our issues.”

The Justice Democrats board reached its decision to call for their departures after hearing Uygur’s “side of the story” and consulting with the political candidates the group has endorsed, Chakrabarti said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/justice-democrats-ousts-cenk-uygur_us_5a3eb4d1e4b025f99e178181

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210020159

trump is in the wh because of racist fucks, Russian interference, and the LIES of jill fucking stein.. to name a few..

Raine

(30,540 posts)
92. Well he's not an option for me IF he was
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 07:35 PM
Nov 2019

I would certainly do research on him. I liked his show on MSNBC but that's been off now for sometime and I haven't kept up with him. Thanks for info.

Cha

(297,146 posts)
80. Progressive Group Ousts Cenk Uygur Over Past Sexist Writing
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:37 PM
Nov 2019

The Justice Democrats ousted Cenk Uygur, one of its founding board members and a creator of progressive online network The Young Turks, following the Thursday revelation that Uygur had authored sexist blogposts in the early 2000s.

The left-leaning political organization, which Uygur and others established this year to support progressive primary challenges against Democratic incumbents in Congress, made the announcement Friday. The group also severed ties with David Koller, who co-founded The Young Turks with Uygur and served as Justice Democrats’ treasurer. A 2004 blogpost in which Koller used degrading language about women he and Uygur met on a road-trip surfaced this week as well.

“The words and conduct in Mr. Uygur and Mr. Koller’s posts degrade what it means to be a Justice Democrat,” Justice Democrats executive director Saikat Chakrabarti said in a Friday evening statement announcing the board’s decision to demand Uygur and Koller’s resignations. “We do not feel that Mr. Uygur is fit to lead or participate in an organization that truly believes women’s issues and the issues of black and brown people are all of our issues.”

The Justice Democrats board reached its decision to call for their departures after hearing Uygur’s “side of the story” and consulting with the political candidates the group has endorsed, Chakrabarti said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/justice-democrats-ousts-cenk-uygur_us_5a3eb4d1e4b025f99e178181

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210020159

trump is in the wh because of racist fucks, Russian interference, and the LIES of jill fucking stein.. to name a few..

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
42. Ana Kasparian will do fine -- she is promoted to executive producer
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 03:05 AM
Nov 2019

I think she is actually better as an anchor than Cenk.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
39. LOL
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 01:39 AM
Nov 2019

This isn't going anywhere. Christy Smith has a stranglehold on the Democratic nomination and is the odds-on favorite to win the special.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
49. Right now it's a crowded field on both sides...
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:48 AM
Nov 2019

David Rudnick (D) - Business Developer, Real Estate Investor & USMC Veteran
Christy Smith (D) - State Assemblywoman, Ex-Newhall School Board Member & Ex-Policy Analyst
Cenk Ugyur (D) - YouTube Talk Show Host, Attorney & Businessman
Angela Underwood-Jacobs (R) - Lancaster City Councilor & Bank Executive

George II

(67,782 posts)
50. They ALL run in the same primary, the top two go to the general election.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:54 AM
Nov 2019

Here's an interesting observation from Hill's primary and election last year. Her ultimate general election opponent, Stephen Knight, got 51.8% of the vote, Hill only 20.7. He was the only republican, Hill and three Democrats split the remaining 48.2%, less than Knight alone.

In the General election Hill got 54.4% vs. 45.6% for Knight.

Primary vote:

Stephen Knight (R) 51.8% 61,411
Katie Hill (D) 20.7% 24,507
Bryan Caforio (D) 18.4% 21,821
Jess Phoenix (D) 6.4% 7,549
Mary Pallant (D) 2.7% 3,157

General Election:

Katie Hill (D) 54.45 133,209
Stephen Knight (R) 45.65 111,813

EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
64. If people back a misogynist who is also a genocide denier...
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 01:43 PM
Nov 2019

That makes them garbage. Garbage like Cenk.

Response to George II (Original post)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
73. One of the strongest, bravest, progressive American voices.! Good Luck to him!
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 03:27 PM
Nov 2019

Their show is getting better and better. Like most on the left, they are proven correct on issues even if it takes awhile. A Bernie supporter. Go Cenk Go!

George II

(67,782 posts)
74. Reminder: Uygur's "TYT" is funded by right winger Buddy Roehmer and Russia Today....
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 03:31 PM
Nov 2019

Uygur also named his show, "The Young Turks", after the group that perpetrated the Armenian genocide.

Progressive American voice? I don't think so.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
75. Selective forgiveness is an epidemic.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 04:33 PM
Nov 2019

As far as the show name, it was a combination of him being of Turkish decent, and....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Young_Turks

According to Cenk Uygur, the name of the show was chosen because it is a popular colloquialism. According to the American Heritage Dictionary, one definition of a Young Turk is "a young progressive or insurgent member of an institution, movement, or political party."



He as since retracted his position on the Armenian genocide with this statement:

Today, I rescind the statements I made in my Daily Pennsylvanian article from 1991 entitled, “Historical Fact of Falsehood? When I wrote that piece, I was a 21 year-old kid, who had a lot of opinions that I have since changed. Back then I had many political positions that were not well researched. For example, back in those days I held a pro-war rally for the Persian Gulf War. Anyone who knows me now knows that I am a very different person today.

I also rescind the statements I made in a letter to the editor I wrote in 1999 on the same issue. Back then I had a very different perspective and there were many things that I did not give due weight. On this issue, I should have been far, far more respectful of so many people who had lost family members. Their pain is heart-wrenching and should be acknowledged by all.

My mistake at the time was confusing myself for a scholar of history, which I most certainly am not. I don’t want to make the same mistake again, so I am going to refrain from commenting on the topic of the Armenian Genocide, which I do not know nearly enough about.

Thank you for being patient with me on this issue, though I might not have always merited it.


..........


But lets continue to demonize liberal voices because of some past mistake. Selectively of course. Joy Reid can be forgiven of past anti-LGBTQ statements, after an opoology. (which is good enough for me) Peaple evolve. Look at Obama, and the Clintons "evolution" on gay marriage. We could go into Biden's past and find positions that would not jive well today. But for all of these voices, we forgive them..BECAUSE THERE IS A GREATER CAUSE WE FIGHT FOR.

RW news media has an all-but monopoly. But we do all we can to help them out by finding any past fault in a pro-Democratic (Sanders supporter) voice and help to smear them into oblivion, because they don't support the same D candidate we do, or have a slightly different position on some issue. So sick of this.

George II

(67,782 posts)
76. I doubt it's coincidental that someone who denied the genocide happened to name his group...
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 04:47 PM
Nov 2019

...after the movement that perpetrated that genocide.

https://www.armenian-genocide.org/young_turks.html

The Young Turks were the perpetrators of the Armenian Genocide. The Young Turk Movement emerged in reaction to the absolutist rule of Sultan Abdul-Hamid (Abdulhamit) II (1876-1909). With the 1878 suspension of the Ottoman Constitution, reform-minded Ottomans resorted to organizing overseas or underground. The backbone of the movement was formed by young military officers who were especially disturbed by the continuing decline of Ottoman power and attributed the crisis to the absence of an environment for change and progress. Working secretly in unconnected clusters under the watchful eye of the Hamidian secret police, the Young Turks succeeded in overturning the rule of the autocratic sultan when the Ottoman armies in European Turkey openly supported the movement. Abdul-Hamid's reinstatement of constitutional and parliamentary rule in July 1908 ushered in a brief period of legalized political activity by a panoply of reformist Turkish parties as well as Armenian political and revolutionary organizations. The Young Turks earned further public support when their intervention was required to suppress the April 1909 counter-revolution staged by the palace.

At the center of the Young Turk Revolution stood the Committee of Union and Progress (CUP) (Ittihad ve Terakki Jemiyeti) formed in 1895. Its members came to be known as Ittihadists or Unionists. The most ideologically committed party in the entire movement, the CUP espoused a form of Turkish nationalism which was xenophobic and exclusionary in its thinking. Its policies threatened to undo the tattered fabric of a multi-ethnic and multi-religious society. Taking advantage of the political confusion reigning in the aftermath of the First Balkan War which the Ottoman Empire lost in 1912 to its former subject states, the CUP seized power in a coup d'etat in January 1913. As it led the empire to a partial recovery in the Second Balkan War, the CUP monopolized political power domestically by bringing the Parliament completely under its influence. It also began to steer away from the long-held Ottoman foreign policy of alliances with Great Britain and France, and forged a stronger military cooperation with Germany. Moreover, the CUP compensated for the Ottoman retreat in the Balkans by promoting Pan-Turkism, an expansionist program designed to challenge Russia in its southern tier. By the time World War I broke out in August 1914, the CUP constituted a chauvinistic band which had subordinated the Ottoman state to its Turkist ideology. It also propelled the country into war against its better interests by entering into a secret accord with Germany.

To consolidate Turkish rule in the remaining territories of the Ottoman Empire and to expand the state into the so-called Turanian lands in the east, most held by Iran and Russia, the CUP devised in secret a program for the extermination of the Armenian population. From the viewpoint of Ittihadist ideology and its new and ambitious foreign policy, the Armenians represented a completely vulnerable population straddling an area of major strategic value for its Pan-Turanian goals. Ottoman misrule had made the Armenians, a prosperous minority despite its political disadvantages, sympathetic to Russia. To the Ittihadists, the global crisis of 1914 represented a rare opportunity to change the fortunes of the Ottoman state and to use the cover of war to embark upon a policy of both internal and external social engineering the likes of which had not been attempted or imagined. Once again they gambled on the element of surprise, subterfuge, and radical daring, this time against a civilian minority population.

Even though the initial advance of Ottoman forces in 1914 into Russia and Iran did not result in a permanent expansion, on the whole the Ottoman armies held Allied forces in check until 1916 and did not capitulate until 1918. The main thrust of the Armenian Genocide, however, was implemented within the first year of the war, years ahead of any imminent collapse. While the mass deportations of the civilian Armenian population was carried out in the spring and summer of 1915 and were completed by the fall, the systematic slaughter of the Armenians had started earlier with the murder of the able-bodied males already drafted into the Ottoman armed forces. By expropriating the movable and immovable wealth of the Armenians, the CUP also looked upon its policy of genocide as a means for enriching its coffers and rewarding its cohorts. The elimination of a commercially viable minority fulfilled part of the nationalist program to concentrate financial power in the hands of the state and promote greater Turkish control over the domestic economy.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
77. I'm sure it was a combination of a few things
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:30 PM
Nov 2019

He's Turkish.
The "Young Turks" definition of a progressive fighter
and maybe even partly a dig at the time at those that were critical of his stance on the Armenian genocide. I can see that kind of stubbornness from him.

No one is perfect. Yet some we forgive, because we can also re-evalute that people evolve. Clinton and Warren were once Republicans.
And also re-evaluate their importance to our side to fight against the RW scourge. And weigh a continued ostracization and boycott against the fact they are on our side on the major and important issues.
You failed to even acknowledge that. What's worse than puritism is selective puritism. WHooooooooosh.

George II

(67,782 posts)
87. His position on the Armenian genocide is just one of the more obvious strikes against him..
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 06:17 PM
Nov 2019

There is also:

Accepting millions from arch conservative Buddy Roehmer's organization
Being funded Russia Today
His previous support of Reagan and Bush
His pro-life stance
His ridicule of feminism
His claim that Clarence Thomas was treated unfairly

His racist and sexist comments on blogs that ultimately forced him to resign from Justice Democrats only 11 months after co-founding it.

Enough?

George II

(67,782 posts)
90. Whatever....on a lighter note....
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 06:35 PM
Nov 2019

....I was 46 years old when my NY Rangers finally won the Stanley Cup. In the finals they won the first three games then lost the next three to.........the Vancouver Canucks.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
96. I remember that so well.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 02:18 AM
Nov 2019

Our Nathan Lafayette hitting the post near the end of the game. Grrrrrr. Almost.

We still haven't won the Cup. Had a shot against Boston in 2011. Both of our teams are working on a rebuild now. Maybe we'll meet up in a few years again!

Cha

(297,146 posts)
82. Bull-Progressive Group Ousts Cenk Uygur Over Past Sexist Writing
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:41 PM
Nov 2019

The Justice Democrats ousted Cenk Uygur, one of its founding board members and a creator of progressive online network The Young Turks, following the Thursday revelation that Uygur had authored sexist blogposts in the early 2000s.

The left-leaning political organization, which Uygur and others established this year to support progressive primary challenges against Democratic incumbents in Congress, made the announcement Friday. The group also severed ties with David Koller, who co-founded The Young Turks with Uygur and served as Justice Democrats’ treasurer. A 2004 blogpost in which Koller used degrading language about women he and Uygur met on a road-trip surfaced this week as well.

“The words and conduct in Mr. Uygur and Mr. Koller’s posts degrade what it means to be a Justice Democrat,” Justice Democrats executive director Saikat Chakrabarti said in a Friday evening statement announcing the board’s decision to demand Uygur and Koller’s resignations. “We do not feel that Mr. Uygur is fit to lead or participate in an organization that truly believes women’s issues and the issues of black and brown people are all of our issues.”

The Justice Democrats board reached its decision to call for their departures after hearing Uygur’s “side of the story” and consulting with the political candidates the group has endorsed, Chakrabarti said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/justice-democrats-ousts-cenk-uygur_us_5a3eb4d1e4b025f99e178181

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210020159

trump is in the wh because of racist fucks, Russian interference, and the LIES of jill fucking stein.. to name a few..

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
86. Whooosh 2.0
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 06:16 PM
Nov 2019

Why do some scoff at "purists" when it suits them, and then shout, "Not pure!" when it suits them?

Why is it so difficult to just accept that humans themselves are not "pure", especially when we delve into every past opinion of every journalist and politician. I've given examples above. If we want to defeat the "racist fucks, Russian interference, and the LIES" we need to allow big tent access, for those that want the same outcome as we do. My gawd I swear there is more support for Republicans like Frum and Wilson, guys who will immediately flip, unlike Cenk, back to supporting the Republican party as soon as Trump is not a candidate anymore.

Does Cenk want to defeat the "racist fucks, Russian interference, and the LIES"? And elect a Democrat? If the answer is yes, then please. At least do the decent thing of " if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything".

The Young Turks help to get out the Democratic vote, especially among younger people. Can't you see the value in that?

George II

(67,782 posts)
88. This isn't be the first time someone associated (currently or in the past) with Justice Democrats...
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 06:19 PM
Nov 2019

....has filed a Statement of Candidacy using an address outside the district.

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