70% of Americans say Trump's actions tied to Ukraine were wrong: POLL

[highplainsdem]

Source: ABC News

An overwhelming 70% of Americans think President Donald Trump’s request to a foreign leader to investigate his political rival, which sits at the heart of the House of Representatives' impeachment inquiry, was wrong, a new ABC News/Ipsos poll finds.

A slim majority of Americans, 51%, believe Trump’s actions were both wrong and he should be impeached and removed from office. But only 21% of Americans say they are following the hearings very closely.

In addition to the 51%, another 19% think that Trump's actions were wrong, but that he should either be impeached by the House but not removed from office, or be neither impeached by the House nor convicted by the Senate. The survey also finds that 1 in 4 Americans, 25%, think that Trump did nothing wrong.

Still, nearly 1 in 3, 32%, say they made up their minds about impeaching the president before the news broke about Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, in which Trump urged his Ukrainian counterpart to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter.

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Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/70-americans-trumps-actions-tied-ukraine-wrong-poll/story?id=67088534

[beachbumbob]

1. this is based on what little has been placed in the public domain, imagine that number IF Schiff

would enforce subpoenas and have Giuliani, Mulvaney. Pompeo in front of the committee all pleading the 5th amendment?

[lagomorph777]

2. +1 When Rudy speaks, people listen

and then laugh loudly.

[beachbumbob]

4. thats the side benefit. The danger to trump and GOP would be if Rudy would not take the 5th,

while Rudy's pleading the 5th would be a dagger in trump/GOP's heart, a talking rudy would be a noose

[lagomorph777]

6. Rudy seems to be unaware of when he should keep his mouth shut.

So, yeah, pretty scary for Trump at this point.

[Igel]

8. It's also based on things like the

"here are the Ukrainians that died while Trump held up aid." The expected inference, "Trump's actions killed Ukrainians," or at least "got them killed."

But no military aid shipments were delayed, in whole or in part, so the inference we're expected to draw is false. There has been no actual claim shipments of aid were halted or delayed. It's a kind of "fake news" and disinformation. Present two true facts in a way that leads the hearer to draw an inference; they own the conclusion and don't doubt it, esp. since the two facts at its base are true. Add in a third fact, and the inference can be falsified. Half a truth is often worse than a lie.

[Newest Reality]

3. Obviously,

That 1 in 4 need a civics class or two.

I know, they may simply be nothing more than loyalists who admire and crave authoritarians and therefore not concerned about how our government is designed to work, but still. One wonders if they deserve the kind of government that our Constitution provides them, though.

[lark]

5. Excellent news - 70% of Americans are not brain dead idiots.

Bad news is 30% are total fucking idiots and a threat to the rest of us.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. Actually, it is the 19 % who say it's wrong but not impeachable. Those need to get of the dime. . nt