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packman

(16,296 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:08 PM Nov 2019

EXCLUSIVE: Chick-fil-A To Stop Donations To Charities With Anti-LGBT Views

Source: Bisnow

As Chick-fil-A expands globally and into more liberal parts of the U.S., the chicken chain plans to change which charities it donates to after years of bad press and protests from the LGBT community

Read more: https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/retail/exclusive-amid-global-expansion-and-lgbt-pushback-chick-fil-a-changes-charitable-giving-structure-101818



About F---in' time - I did enjoy their chicken salad sandwich on wheat and their milk shakes.
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EXCLUSIVE: Chick-fil-A To Stop Donations To Charities With Anti-LGBT Views (Original Post) packman Nov 2019 OP
too little too late, IMO. I'll wait to see whether this is more than just pandering. hlthe2b Nov 2019 #1
Agree. It doesn't mean they doing anything positive or right, just not objectively wrong mpcamb Nov 2019 #46
Who cares what their motivation is tymorial Nov 2019 #54
Their motivation is everything. It predicts what else they will do or not do including hlthe2b Nov 2019 #58
agreed. POS is a POS stopdiggin Nov 2019 #77
Considering the bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #2
Not tolerance, loss of $. we can do it Nov 2019 #4
This. The rest of the world won't put up with their politics. crickets Nov 2019 #8
Bingo!! nt cstanleytech Nov 2019 #15
I do not care about the motivation but the results. efhmc Nov 2019 #29
I do. Hypocrites suck and won't get any of my $s. we can do it Nov 2019 #37
I've known Buck McCabe (former CFO of Chik-fil-A) for over 40 years. 11 Bravo Nov 2019 #48
I didn't realize people had their bones tested for bigotry JonLP24 Nov 2019 #76
to my way of thinking, if you're giving money to people that are staunchly stopdiggin Nov 2019 #79
It is Cathay who has been the issue. n/t hlthe2b Nov 2019 #80
Exactly! mountain grammy Nov 2019 #33
So it's about money tymorial Nov 2019 #56
They have really bad chicken sandwiches. Farmer-Rick Nov 2019 #13
It's really not awful ... been there a few times, it's def. not microwaved ... mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #24
They have a playground and stuff my gchildren will eat. efhmc Nov 2019 #30
Their corporate giving hasn't mattered to me much anyway. Loki Liesmith Nov 2019 #3
I'll believe it when I see it. Archae Nov 2019 #5
What Archae said!! atreides1 Nov 2019 #35
I still won't patronize that business Cirque du So-What Nov 2019 #6
I have never darkened their door and don't plan to. LastDemocratInSC Nov 2019 #7
What? All the years of outloud bigotry MuseRider Nov 2019 #9
I see this as akin to those Republicans who were re-elected with tainted money MurrayDelph Nov 2019 #36
Corporate Triangulation BlueIdaho Nov 2019 #10
They are still assholes Mickju Nov 2019 #11
An excellent place to eat if you've lost the urge to live. klook Nov 2019 #28
They've said that before. I'll believe it when I see it. stopbush Nov 2019 #12
Can't wait to see the crazy protests randr Nov 2019 #14
Freepers are complaining about it IronLionZion Nov 2019 #43
Money supersedes religious beliefs. keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #16
I will give them another try BillyBobBrilliant Nov 2019 #17
LOL - yep. (nt) klook Nov 2019 #26
And we all know, they are not opened on Sunday ... aggiesal Nov 2019 #27
I have never set foot inside or driven thru any of their establishments sdfernando Nov 2019 #18
Didn't they say they already stopped a few years ago? LeftInTX Nov 2019 #19
They must really be worried about those Popeyes chicken sandwiches kysrsoze Nov 2019 #20
The taste of hate lingers. C_U_L8R Nov 2019 #21
Problem is Popeyes customer service is consistently and uniquely awful BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #31
the line was around the block IcyPeas Nov 2019 #22
I have NEVER eaten there... Raster Nov 2019 #23
It's all about the Benjamins ToxMarz Nov 2019 #25
I like Chik Fil A BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #32
I'd guess the corollary is also true. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #39
I like pit bulls and Olive Garden IronLionZion Nov 2019 #45
+1 happybird Nov 2019 #53
They changed their position due to outrage from conservatives JonLP24 Nov 2019 #75
It's amusing to see the "I've never eaten there!" And "their food is awful!" Posts bearsfootball516 Nov 2019 #57
They provide good customer service and a consistent product BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #63
to give money to a un-American company like that is to support hate groups rockfordfile Nov 2019 #66
That's a pretty absurd statement to make. bearsfootball516 Nov 2019 #68
Well you sure showed me. BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #70
That's because of all the un-American religious nut jobs. Most people go to other places. rockfordfile Nov 2019 #65
You're pretty out of touch if you think the only people going to CFA are religious nut jobs. bearsfootball516 Nov 2019 #69
Aw hell, I'm a certified food snob sir pball Nov 2019 #60
Yeah it's a solid option BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #64
I don't seek them out but I'll cheerfully eat there sir pball Nov 2019 #73
What? CFA is a un-American company that supports hate groups. Do you support cfa? rockfordfile Nov 2019 #67
"a lot worst" BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #71
I take it you don't like fried chicken. sir pball Nov 2019 #72
Isn't whether chicken is good or not subjective? JonLP24 Nov 2019 #74
Taste is subjective, of course sir pball Nov 2019 #81
I used to like their sandwiches MurrayDelph Nov 2019 #34
They can still go after the atheists, right? brooklynite Nov 2019 #38
How does one go after atheists? IronLionZion Nov 2019 #42
As opposed to most people here Unclephil Nov 2019 #40
This probably has more to do with Popeye's kicking their Christian ass IronLionZion Nov 2019 #41
Don't buy it. religious types lie all of the time. Their food is still crap rockfordfile Nov 2019 #44
Oh good. My gay daughter loves chick-fil-a salad bowls OKNancy Nov 2019 #47
Economic pressure can encourage changes in behavior. Nitram Nov 2019 #49
was interested to see the DU reaction to this....... Takket Nov 2019 #50
My initial reaction was not to trust them OriginalGeek Nov 2019 #82
Mike Huckabee: It's 'tragic' Chick-fil-A will focus its charitable giving on causes that aren't anti Gothmog Nov 2019 #51
they can still fuck themselves Skittles Nov 2019 #52
A good thing I guess. Rather unimportant in the big picture. GulfCoast66 Nov 2019 #55
The Cons are mad XD dustyscamp Nov 2019 #59
I would still never patronize them jcmaine72 Nov 2019 #61
Makes no difference. Their history will follow them. GoneOffShore Nov 2019 #62
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hlthe2b

(102,234 posts)
1. too little too late, IMO. I'll wait to see whether this is more than just pandering.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:10 PM
Nov 2019

Frankly, I'm unlikely to forgive them for continuing to use styrofoam cups more than a decade after all others discontinued using them due to their severe harm to the environment.

It isn't just LGBTQ issues that make them subject to derision.

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
46. Agree. It doesn't mean they doing anything positive or right, just not objectively wrong
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:23 PM
Nov 2019

from my point of view.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
54. Who cares what their motivation is
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 08:08 PM
Nov 2019

I don't care if this is entirely about profit. If their actions match their words then it doesn't really matter what is in their heart because it means the right wing isn't getting their money

hlthe2b

(102,234 posts)
58. Their motivation is everything. It predicts what else they will do or not do including
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 08:13 PM
Nov 2019

as I pointed out, their rather horrific record on environmental sustainability.

And, I'd bet the LGBTQ community would like to know if this represents a motivated change of heart or merely an opportunity on the short term.

stopdiggin

(11,301 posts)
77. agreed. POS is a POS
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:29 AM
Nov 2019

I'm not a big time boycott activist, but .. Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-A .. they'll be pushing dirt in over top of me before ....

(These companies have made a POINT of putting THEMSELVES at the front of the culture wars. No accident. No misstep No misinterpretation. They deliberately used their brand recognition and considerable resources .. weighing in on the WRONG side, to do damage to real persons and the public square. It's not just a difference of opinion. It's tearing at the fabric of who we are. They don't warrant a pardon or a do over. They made their bed .. and rubbed everyone's nose in it while doing so!)

bucolic_frolic

(43,144 posts)
2. Considering the
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:11 PM
Nov 2019

Conservative Christian nature of the company, this is a major statement of tolerance.

Nonetheless, I never go there. Been boycotting them forever. Amen.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
48. I've known Buck McCabe (former CFO of Chik-fil-A) for over 40 years.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:54 PM
Nov 2019

He's a devout Christian, but he doesn't have a prejudiced bone in his body. I can't speak for Cathay (the big boss), but not everyone at the company is a homophobic bigot.

stopdiggin

(11,301 posts)
79. to my way of thinking, if you're giving money to people that are staunchly
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:44 AM
Nov 2019

anti-LGBT. Then you're either a bigot .. or of extremely limited intellect.

(I know a lot of Christians try to straddle the fence on this .. and there are plenty of Christian churches that have legitimately changed their message .. but if you're still with one of those that are mouthing platitudes about "loving the sinner" ...-Then it just doesn't wash.)

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
56. So it's about money
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 08:11 PM
Nov 2019

In a perfect world I 2 would rather they have changed and completely Embrace lgbtqa people. Even if they don't the right-wing still not getting their money and at the end of the day that's a good thing

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
13. They have really bad chicken sandwiches.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:50 PM
Nov 2019

I ate there once when they first started. They microwaved my chicken so it was hard as a rock.

But now I just don't eat there because they have horrible politics and weird religious crap. Probably why their chicken is so absolutely awful. It's a warning.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
24. It's really not awful ... been there a few times, it's def. not microwaved ...
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:50 PM
Nov 2019

Pretty obvious the chicken is straight from the fryer.

For fast food, their stuff ain't bad.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
30. They have a playground and stuff my gchildren will eat.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:25 PM
Nov 2019

I get a salad which I share with them. I stopped going for a while but got a new set of gchildren and caved. So pandering for cash if the policy changes is better than previously. And I guess I was pandering to my peeps and so maybe relieve my conscience a little.

Archae

(46,326 posts)
5. I'll believe it when I see it.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:16 PM
Nov 2019

"Christians" like the family that runs Chik-Fil-A are notorious for lying through their teeth.

Cirque du So-What

(25,932 posts)
6. I still won't patronize that business
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:20 PM
Nov 2019

Just knowing the bigotry harbored in their gristly little hearts would ruin the experience - and that won't change, no matter how much they change policy.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
7. I have never darkened their door and don't plan to.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:22 PM
Nov 2019

This change is a marketing necessity. They cannot outrun their legacy.

MuseRider

(34,106 posts)
9. What? All the years of outloud bigotry
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:29 PM
Nov 2019

cutting into their profits? They need more so they must expand?

Fuck em!

I do not believe for one moment they are doing this because of their feeling bad over past bigotry.

I have never eaten there and I never will unless I see them donating heavily to equality issues, equality for all but most especially for LGBTQ+.

I will wait and see. I see they are changing their charitable giving. Good. I will wait. It will take a while before I actually believe it. I want to make certain they are not also still donating to places that do not believe in equality. A donation to HRC will not cut it.

I spent too many years working this issue to see them get to squirrel out of all the damage they have done.

Yo! Salvation Army? You next?

MurrayDelph

(5,294 posts)
36. I see this as akin to those Republicans who were re-elected with tainted money
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:43 PM
Nov 2019

Offering to donate an equivalent amount to charity now that they've already made use of it, in the hopes of removing their taint.

Mickju

(1,803 posts)
11. They are still assholes
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:41 PM
Nov 2019

The idiots in my town see eating at Chick-fil-a as a badge of honor. It's absolutely sickening. My sister is one of them. I have never set foot in one.

klook

(12,154 posts)
28. An excellent place to eat if you've lost the urge to live.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:19 PM
Nov 2019

Antibiotic-laden chicken cooked in grease, accompanied by lots of salt, starch, and sugar. Yeah!

I gave it a try years ago when I worked right across the street from one. I can’t imagine getting addicted to that crap — glad I chose healthier (and less bigoted) options a long time ago.

randr

(12,412 posts)
14. Can't wait to see the crazy protests
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:59 PM
Nov 2019

I have never gone to a Chick-fil so far. The minute I see right wing protesters I'm in line.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
27. And we all know, they are not opened on Sunday ...
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:17 PM
Nov 2019

being a day of worship.

This certainly befits your name.
Brilliant!

sdfernando

(4,931 posts)
18. I have never set foot inside or driven thru any of their establishments
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:15 PM
Nov 2019

I tried one of their chicken sandwiches unknowingly at a company event (packaging was gone). I was thoroughly NOT IMPRESSED. It was dry and bland and after two bites it was in the trash.

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
21. The taste of hate lingers.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:29 PM
Nov 2019

And clearly Popeye's is kicking their butt with a superior non-discriminating fried chicken sandwich

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
31. Problem is Popeyes customer service is consistently and uniquely awful
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:26 PM
Nov 2019

Also product is wildly inconsistent across the country. I know this because I’m a Popeyes fan, and also a masochist, apparently.

IcyPeas

(21,863 posts)
22. the line was around the block
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:34 PM
Nov 2019

a new drive-thru Chick fil A opened near me last week and you should've seen the crowd! they don't appear to be suffering from those who won't eat their food. They are opening 10 more in the Los Angeles area this year!

https://patch.com/california/encino/chick-fil-drive-thru-open-thursday-encino

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
25. It's all about the Benjamins
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:09 PM
Nov 2019

Their "base" served them well (weird that a fast food restaurant even has a "base&quot , but they are now it's limiting growth factor. Oh well, on to the bigger bucks.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
32. I like Chik Fil A
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:28 PM
Nov 2019

But not as much as I like watching DUs food snobs descend on a thread about Chick Fil A!

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
45. I like pit bulls and Olive Garden
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 03:50 PM
Nov 2019

DU snobs descending on threads are one of the most satisfying things to watch!

happybird

(4,606 posts)
53. +1
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:53 PM
Nov 2019

When I read the title, I thought folks would be pleased.


The nuggets are always bangin’
Shakes, too, and the Cobb salad.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
75. They changed their position due to outrage from conservatives
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:58 AM
Nov 2019

If I was a meat eater I would make sure not to go there as they are clearly worried about conservatives not going there.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
57. It's amusing to see the "I've never eaten there!" And "their food is awful!" Posts
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 08:13 PM
Nov 2019

Go there at lunch or dinner time and look at the line wrapped twice around the building. They’re one of the most profitable fast food chains in the country, and that’s with only being open 6 days a week.

If their food was bad, that wouldn’t be a thing.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
63. They provide good customer service and a consistent product
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:00 PM
Nov 2019

I think the sandwiches are on the small side but Americans are fat so maybe it’s just right. I’d also mention they pay their employees more than other fast food franchises and did long before that became a social issue. My guess is that’s why places like Popeyes are shit shows. Go look up a Popeyes in any major city on Yelp and see what the reviews are like. My city has more than a dozen and every one of them are poorly reviewed, in fact comically so.

I boycotted Chick Fil A for a solid year, then I found myself in a situation on the road where it was the only option. Sometimes life gets in the way of wokeness, i suppose.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
68. That's a pretty absurd statement to make.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:10 PM
Nov 2019

I’m close to quite a few people in the LGBT family who go to Chick-Fil-A quite often and enjoy it. If it’s good enough for them, it’s good enough for me.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
70. Well you sure showed me.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:16 PM
Nov 2019

I guess I better cancel my lunch with Anita Bryant.

Here's an idea, you do you, and i'll do me. Thanks!

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
65. That's because of all the un-American religious nut jobs. Most people go to other places.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:59 PM
Nov 2019

Majority of people go to other place and have more choices

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
60. Aw hell, I'm a certified food snob
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 03:08 AM
Nov 2019

Been cooking for 24 years, in NYC for 10, been a chef for 5 - if you think CFA is bad, low-quality, or (lol) microwaved, you just don't like fried chicken. Yeah, Charles' Pan Fried Chicken up on Fred Douglass is probably the best thing I've ever eaten, but CFA is some pretty damn decent bird politics aside.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
73. I don't seek them out but I'll cheerfully eat there
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:30 AM
Nov 2019

I tend towards Popeye's for fast food chicken, cuz there's several a lot closer to home than the nearest CFA.

Charles' is a whole.dofferent universe; it's the best fried chicken I've ever had. My Louisiana-bred wife says it's better than her grandma's was.

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
67. What? CFA is a un-American company that supports hate groups. Do you support cfa?
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:04 PM
Nov 2019

Yes cfa food is crap. But I think being a un-American pos is a lot worst.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
72. I take it you don't like fried chicken.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:27 AM
Nov 2019

I'm CFA agnostic; yes the Cathy family are right bastards but so are the Waltons, the Kochs, and innumerable 1%ers making tons of money off publicly traded companies. The only truly ethical purchasing is from a privately held company who's politics you agree with.

My only point was that CFA chicken is actually pretty damned good; if you want to oppose them for their politics more power to you but don't sniff and say "and their chicken sucks anyway" cuz it doesn't. Better'n Popeye's for sure (I also love Popeye's for the record)

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
74. Isn't whether chicken is good or not subjective?
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:56 AM
Nov 2019

I took advantage of a coupon there awhile ago and it was nothing special just a fast food place that tries to look like a restaurant. It just taste like chicken I can get the same thing at any other chicken place but I quit eating meat. Meat in general is nothing special.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
81. Taste is subjective, of course
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:39 AM
Nov 2019

But there's also at least semi-objective levels of "good" once we've crossed the threshold of "I don't like X in general" - keeping in chicken terms, you *cannot* say McNuggets are better than a bucket of Popeye's bone-in. As you said, you don't consider any meat to be special, so from your perspective CFA won't be better, nor presumably worse, than than KFC/Popeye's/McDs/Wendys.

MurrayDelph

(5,294 posts)
34. I used to like their sandwiches
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:30 PM
Nov 2019

but haven't had one in over 20 years, ever since I heard about how old man Cathy spent the profits.

While the current move is a step in the right direction, it is too little too late. Until amends are made, the only way I'll set foot in one of their stores is for a bathroom emergency.

 

Unclephil

(92 posts)
40. As opposed to most people here
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 03:15 PM
Nov 2019

I have been to their corporate offices multiple times. Twenty years ago I consulted on their POS systems. I had just stopped selling POPS systems and because I had good knowledge I helped them.

I know the head of IT security fairly well. I think they are not evil. They are very religious. This is a big change for them and maybe they are growing. They do not hurt for profits and the chicken biscuit is the best. Their service is the best in the fast food business and if you work for them during your high school years they help you with college expenses.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
41. This probably has more to do with Popeye's kicking their Christian ass
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 03:26 PM
Nov 2019

with a superior product.

Chick-fil-GAY employees tend to be friendly enough when providing service, as they are trained to be. It's great if the company really is turning away from hate. They are a popular fundraising partner for most any type of diversity group or charity except the LGBTQ ones.

There are online recipes for people who want to recreate their sandwiches at home without the hate.

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
44. Don't buy it. religious types lie all of the time. Their food is still crap
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 03:45 PM
Nov 2019

I tried them as a kid years ago in a mall and it was terrible.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
47. Oh good. My gay daughter loves chick-fil-a salad bowls
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:03 PM
Nov 2019

She knows about the company and the views. LOL she said " I don't give a shit, I like the chicken salad"
She can't have gluten so that is why she likes the salad bowl.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
50. was interested to see the DU reaction to this.......
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:29 PM
Nov 2019

Saw the headline and while I'm not going to run out and try their product (they are building one a few miles from me in Michigan as we speak), I like the move. I'd like to see more, i.e. LGBTQ groups keeping an eye on them and making sure they aren't still funneling money to hate somewhere else.

But we always talk about boycotting companies who's practices we don't like, and this one is changing a policy. Isn't that exactly what we want? and Chick-fil-A is NOT hurting for money. They didn't have to do this to avoid a loss of stay out of bankruptcy.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
55. A good thing I guess. Rather unimportant in the big picture.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 08:09 PM
Nov 2019

I’m no fan of chicken no matter who makes it so I won’t be going.

Well, fried chicken on the bone done well transcends the poultry family and is one of the best thing ever.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
61. I would still never patronize them
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:50 PM
Nov 2019

The only difference now is that the Cons are royally ticked at them too and many are vowing never to patronize them again. They now have no customer base that trusts them.

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
62. Makes no difference. Their history will follow them.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:00 PM
Nov 2019

And their food? Mass produced garbage with too much sugar and too much salt.

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