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brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:47 AM Mar 2020

Elizabeth Warren, Once a Front-Runner, Will Drop Out of Presidential Race

Source: New York Times

BOSTON — Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts plans to drop out of the presidential race on Thursday and will inform her staff of her plans later this morning, according to a person close to her, ending a run defined by an avalanche of policy plans that aimed to pull the Democratic Party to the left and appealed to enough voters to make her briefly a front-runner last fall, but that proved unable to translate excitement from elite progressives into backing from the party’s more working-class and diverse base.

Though her support had eroded by Super Tuesday, in her final weeks as a candidate she effectively drove the centrist billionaire, former New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, out of the race with debate performances that flashed her evident skills and political potential.

She entered the race railing against the corrosive power of big money, and one long-term consequence of her campaign is that Ms. Warren demonstrated that someone other than Senator Bernie Sanders, and his intensely loyal small-dollar donors, could fund a credible presidential campaign without holding fund-raisers.

Her potential endorsement is highly sought after in the race and both Mr. Sanders and former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. have spoken with Ms. Warren since Super Tuesday, when the end of her campaign appeared imminent.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-drops-out.html?action=click&module=Alert&pgtype=Homepage

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Elizabeth Warren, Once a Front-Runner, Will Drop Out of Presidential Race (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2020 OP
Oh, I am really sorry to hear that. Farmer-Rick Mar 2020 #1
"Joseph R. Biden Jr." left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #2
"Joseph R. Biden Jr." left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #2
If you had used his full middle name, I'd say his mom. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #10
HA!! iscooterliberally Mar 2020 #29
Sorry to hear, time for me to switch to Joe. Canoe52 Mar 2020 #4
Biden/Warren? nt Phoenix61 Mar 2020 #5
No angrychair Mar 2020 #13
+1 SunSeeker Mar 2020 #14
Sadly if that were the case we'd lose a Senate seat groundloop Mar 2020 #15
Biden would do better to ask Beto O'Rourke to serve as VP. tclambert Mar 2020 #43
I've been saying that since November of last year. TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #45
Makes sense. Hadn't thought of that. nt Phoenix61 Mar 2020 #46
Welp, damn it Dopers_Greed Mar 2020 #6
Well, it will be interesting to see who comes out on top in the Biden / Sanders wars. Initech Mar 2020 #7
Sad but inevitable. This misogyny in this country continues to grow. efhmc Mar 2020 #8
Is it Misogyny? maxsolomon Mar 2020 #12
I agree with your analysis and perhaps I should try not to take such a jaundiced view of things. efhmc Mar 2020 #17
Of course not, especially at 78! Clinton was ten years younger when they (including the cultists deurbano Mar 2020 #25
Both. And when she seemed like a threat to Sanders, his more cultish followers deurbano Mar 2020 #18
It's not Sanders fault that she lost Polybius Mar 2020 #33
I am of the opinion that he never should have run. maxsolomon Mar 2020 #34
Let's say Trump steals this election with Biden Polybius Mar 2020 #35
Well, I'm DU's foremost Ageist, so... maxsolomon Mar 2020 #47
This is our party IronLionZion Mar 2020 #21
Only 15% of Super Tuesday female voters went for Warren OnlinePoker Mar 2020 #23
I am not so sure about that. I am a part of a Dem women's group efhmc Mar 2020 #30
There was a survey floating around yesterday addressing exactly that sort of 2nd-guessing maxsolomon Mar 2020 #38
People (and probably especially women) are deathly afraid that what happened in 2016 will happen deurbano Mar 2020 #36
Her loss was not for lack of trying. I wish I had her energy. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #9
I hope she endorses Biden. And later, becomes VP. Politicub Mar 2020 #11
"will inform her staff of her plans later this morning" Lulu KC Mar 2020 #16
We Need No Further Proof that... McKim Mar 2020 #19
Her service in the Senate is invaluable Maeve Mar 2020 #20
Very sorry to hear that. I so wanted her to do well. But I do think it is a good move o her KPN Mar 2020 #22
Elizabeth has my utmost respect. hamsterjill Mar 2020 #24
And mine as well, PRETZEL Mar 2020 #26
I truly hope a female POTUS in benld74 Mar 2020 #27
She will make a great Senate Majority Leader! Fiendish Thingy Mar 2020 #28
Yes! Get those billionaires to pour the money they don't need for their campaigns now deurbano Mar 2020 #37
Well, that didn't take long. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2020 #31
This really saddens me Bayard Mar 2020 #32
damn....okay .. yuiyoshida Mar 2020 #39
Warren will make a good advisor.. Maxheader Mar 2020 #40
Visualizing her in McConnell's seat in a year Lulu KC Mar 2020 #41
A year ago, I would have been certain that she would have been in the top 2 RinconDem Mar 2020 #42
Oh, I'm an xxqqqzme Mar 2020 #44
Good God, that's not a slam. It's facts. maxsolomon Mar 2020 #48

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
10. If you had used his full middle name, I'd say his mom.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:04 PM
Mar 2020

It's a shame though about Sen. Warren. The first time I heard her speak, I thought about her being president (and she wasn't in politics yet).

I'm switching to Joe.

angrychair

(8,693 posts)
13. No
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:06 PM
Mar 2020

I think 2 old white people sets the wrong tone. President is the only prize worth losing a senate seat to a Republican, she should not give up her seat.

I still think Senator Harris is his best choice.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
15. Sadly if that were the case we'd lose a Senate seat
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:13 PM
Mar 2020

The governor of Massachusetts is a republican, so he'd undoubtedly appoint a republican to fill the Senate seat which Warren would vacate. As great as she'd be I don't think anyone would want to lose a Senate seat.

IMO Biden/Harris would be a great ticket.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
43. Biden would do better to ask Beto O'Rourke to serve as VP.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 05:13 PM
Mar 2020

It might give him a good chance to win the state of Texas. Trump cannot win without Texas.

Warren gives him help in Massachusetts, where he doesn't need help, and might cost us her Senate seat.

Kamal Harris is mentioned a lot. Helps him with women and minorities, but California is not a battleground state.

Traditionally, you want to pick a VP candidate from a battleground state to get a little extra support in that state..

TexasTowelie

(112,102 posts)
45. I've been saying that since November of last year.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:49 PM
Mar 2020

We are putting too much emphasis on winning back the Rust Belt states while increasing the odds of taking Texas provides an alternative pathway to win the election.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
7. Well, it will be interesting to see who comes out on top in the Biden / Sanders wars.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:56 AM
Mar 2020

The road to the convention is going to be very interesting.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
8. Sad but inevitable. This misogyny in this country continues to grow.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:58 AM
Mar 2020

I hope our Dem candidate picks one of the great women we have in our party as "his" vp.

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
12. Is it Misogyny?
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:05 PM
Mar 2020

Or was it 78 year old Sander's refusal to step aside after his heart attack?

Sander's ego split the left. The African-American vote never left Biden.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
17. I agree with your analysis and perhaps I should try not to take such a jaundiced view of things.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:18 PM
Mar 2020

However, do you think any woman would have been able to continue after such a health issue? She would have been destroyed by the media and her opponents. Remember Hillary's "deadly illnesses"?

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
25. Of course not, especially at 78! Clinton was ten years younger when they (including the cultists
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:50 PM
Mar 2020

among Sanders' followers--who are often indistinguishable from MAGAts) found even her cough disqualifying (since no other candidates ever lose their voices), and then that almost-faint (due to standing in the hot sun in combination with having pneumonia--which I contracted when I was 40) sent them (and the Russian bots) into a frenzied, shit show. Where was any of that when Sanders had the heart attack at 78, hid it for three days, then refused to provide the more detailed medical records he'd promised? Sanders was also a deadbeat dad with other things in his past that no female candidate could ever have in hers, since a woman's personal history warrants the fine-tooth comb treatment and no mercy.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
18. Both. And when she seemed like a threat to Sanders, his more cultish followers
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:19 PM
Mar 2020

displayed the same Mommy issues that were so attractive in their attacks on HRC. The kind of attacks where it's hard to tell them from MAGAts. "Not Me. Us." (Right,)

Polybius

(15,381 posts)
33. It's not Sanders fault that she lost
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:45 PM
Mar 2020

It was a super-mild heart attack, and Bernie honestly thought he could win. The left just preferred Bernie in this primary.

Polybius

(15,381 posts)
35. Let's say Trump steals this election with Biden
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:00 PM
Mar 2020

Do you think 82 year old Bernie runs in '24? Or 75 year old Warren?

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
23. Only 15% of Super Tuesday female voters went for Warren
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:43 PM
Mar 2020

To claim misogyny just because she lost isn't shown by the fact she didn't garner more than minor support from women, either.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
30. I am not so sure about that. I am a part of a Dem women's group
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:20 PM
Mar 2020

who strive to get rid of DJT and almost to a person this group of Hillary supporters said we need a male at the head of the ticket because of, not our party's misogyny but of our country's. I as most of the group voted for Biden in Texas for this reason not because of his type of reproductive organs but because he has the best chance of winning, which probably sadly has a great deal to do with his being a male

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
38. There was a survey floating around yesterday addressing exactly that sort of 2nd-guessing
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:20 PM
Mar 2020

Women collectively assuming men were worse than they are, and voting in anticipation of that.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
36. People (and probably especially women) are deathly afraid that what happened in 2016 will happen
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:01 PM
Mar 2020

again, and for good reason. That year, we had the choice between the woman in the country most qualified to be president and that thing (whatever it is)... and we got that thing. Since being the most prepared, the smartest, the most qualified, the hardest working (etc., ad nauseam) didn't make the difference last time, what would? MANY women I know (in real life and online) are voting based on who they think is "electable" because we can't afford to get this one wrong. And so far, for the entire history of our nation, being electable has meant being male. We were sure we were going to break that glass ceiling in 2016, but that dream turned into our current nightmare, leaving many women (and men) unable to trust that their fellow voters will vote for a woman--even if she is a thousand times more qualified than the Head MAGAt-- because of, yes... misogyny. I mean, I voted for Warren because that kind of thinking becomes self-fulfilling, but I certainly can't blame anyone for coming to that conclusion, based on existing evidence. Also... in recent days, quite a few moved from Warren to Biden (when it seemed Sanders might get a plurality in the primary) because they can't stand Sanders/or find him unelectable (for ideological and other reasons) in the general.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
9. Her loss was not for lack of trying. I wish I had her energy.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:02 PM
Mar 2020

Honestly, I don't know how any of these candidates do it.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
11. I hope she endorses Biden. And later, becomes VP.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:04 PM
Mar 2020

Joe gets stuff done, and Warren is an amazing strategist and tactician. The ticket will unify the center and left sides of the party, thereby expanding the coalition.

The drawback would be Massachusetts’ republican governor appointing her replacement.

Lulu KC

(2,565 posts)
16. "will inform her staff of her plans later this morning"
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:15 PM
Mar 2020

????
After they've all read it in the paper?
Why, NYT, why?

McKim

(2,412 posts)
19. We Need No Further Proof that...
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:29 PM
Mar 2020

We need no further proof that this is not a rational country! I am very very sad that this super competent woman was not the first choice for so many! We are so fortunate that someone of her caliber would make the effort to run for president.

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
20. Her service in the Senate is invaluable
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:32 PM
Mar 2020

The silver lining in this announcement--she will continue her work there!

KPN

(15,642 posts)
22. Very sorry to hear that. I so wanted her to do well. But I do think it is a good move o her
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:40 PM
Mar 2020

part at this point in time, especially not endorsing one of the two remaining immediately. Hope she runs again in 2024.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
24. Elizabeth has my utmost respect.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:46 PM
Mar 2020

She ran a damn good race and she brought some great ideas and more importantly, solutions to the discussion.

Job well done, Senator Warren. I hope the next President will seek your counsel and advice often in whatever role you wish to play.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,578 posts)
28. She will make a great Senate Majority Leader!
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:06 PM
Mar 2020

Tough, sharp, fighting against corruption. Together, she and Pelosi can ensure the next Dem president’s agenda gets enacted, and the corruption of this administration gets investigated.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
37. Yes! Get those billionaires to pour the money they don't need for their campaigns now
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:13 PM
Mar 2020

into the effort to take back the Senate. Can you imagine her working with Speaker Pelosi and Biden?!!!

Lulu KC

(2,565 posts)
41. Visualizing her in McConnell's seat in a year
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 04:20 PM
Mar 2020

with house, senate, and president all on more or less the same page, and the power to bring her plans to fruition.

I am seeing a happy ending, as long as November is a real election.

RinconDem

(1 post)
42. A year ago, I would have been certain that she would have been in the top 2
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 04:45 PM
Mar 2020

I can't believe it. I'm just so saddened by it.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
44. Oh, I'm an
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 07:42 PM
Mar 2020

"Elite progressive" now because I supported an intelligent, accomplished woman. And now the ONLY thing she has going for her is an endorsement?

Right there it is, why women in politics are not treated with respect they deserve. And the NYT wants me to subscribe? HA!

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
48. Good God, that's not a slam. It's facts.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 12:00 PM
Mar 2020

Every reporter at the NYT isn't going to confirm your biases.

Are you a professional with an advanced degree? I am. That puts us in an "elite" of the highly educated with specialized knowledge and abilities, the way professional athletes are an elite in their field. Everyone can play soccer, but to get paid to do it? You're elite.

Snip: "Ms. Warren struggled to win over voters beyond college-educated white people, in particular white women. She was poised to win delegates in only a handful of highly educated enclaves: places like San Francisco, Santa Monica and West Hollywood."

This is always an issue in Liberal politics. Just ask Adlai Stevenson.

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