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brooklynite

(94,493 posts)
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 05:43 PM Mar 2020

Mormon Church delivers stinging rebuke to BYU students

Source: CNN

Mormon Church delivers stinging rebuke to BYU students with letter stating homosexual behavior is 'not compatible' with its principles

Just two weeks ago, LGBTQ students at Brigham Young University were cheering after the school deleted a section in its honor code that banned "homosexual behavior." But on Wednesday, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints poured cold water on their celebrations after it clarified that same-sex romantic behavior is still "not compatible" with BYU's principles.

The announcement came in a letter penned by Elder Paul V. Johnson, the commissioner of the church's educational system. It was sent to all the students and employees at Mormon-owned schools, according to BYU, which tweeted out the letter.

"The moral standards of the Church did not change with the recent release of the General Handbook or the updated Honor Code," Johnson wrote. "Same-sex behavior cannot lead to eternal marriage and is therefore not compatible with the principles included in the Honor Code."


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/05/us/byu-homosexual-behavior-not-compatible-trnd/index.html



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Mormon Church delivers stinging rebuke to BYU students (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2020 OP
...sigh... LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #1
What Temple Square does not know Wellstone ruled Mar 2020 #2
LDS, Mormons ... Miigwech Mar 2020 #3
It sounds as if love is not acceptible, but hate is. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #17
"We're just going back..." Grokenstein Mar 2020 #4
What's that "eternal marriage" part mean? Canoe52 Mar 2020 #5
The Church teaches the only way to be together is to be married FreeState Mar 2020 #8
Religion...Telling you what they think god is telling them since the dawn of mankind. Canoe52 Mar 2020 #12
Except for items 1 through 6... AZ8theist Mar 2020 #15
"Latter Day Saints" Roy Rolling Mar 2020 #6
The Church was trying to get listed on job boards again by hiding its homophobia FreeState Mar 2020 #7
"The moral standards of the Church did not change..." Yeah well, that is nothing to brag about. yellowcanine Mar 2020 #9
dont forget the holy underwear!!!. AllaN01Bear Mar 2020 #10
Oh fuck the mormon church! Just fuck them! Mickju Mar 2020 #11
Some principles are flexible. keithbvadu2 Mar 2020 #13
LDS The cult that became a church. rickyhall Mar 2020 #14
Same goes for Christianity. Not that I am anti-religious. Just not religious GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #16
Look up "Mormon God" czarjak Mar 2020 #18
I have an idea if you disagree MosheFeingold Mar 2020 #19
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. What Temple Square does not know
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 05:49 PM
Mar 2020

about their Flock will not hurt them. Must be a Legal Issue dealing with LGBTQ traveling through the Federal Court System and they are showing their usual bigot support.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
3. LDS, Mormons ...
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 05:52 PM
Mar 2020

child brides, racism, polygamy, sister wives, incest and child rape seem to be the thing they uphold above all others ... they are not upholding morality by banning LGBTQ relationships, they are upholding "moral rot" is their default position

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
17. It sounds as if love is not acceptible, but hate is.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:03 AM
Mar 2020

Most of your examples are just ignorant white men "getting their rocks off" on victims--not partners/equals or loved ones. It would be just as romantic with a farm animal or a knothole for them.

FreeState

(10,570 posts)
8. The Church teaches the only way to be together is to be married
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 06:18 PM
Mar 2020

in its temple for "all time and eternity."

In reality Eternal Marriage is how Joseph Smith justified and organized polygamy.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/132?lang=eng

1 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many awives and bconcubines—

2 Behold, and lo, I am the Lord thy God, and will answer thee as touching this matter.

3 Therefore, aprepare thy heart to receive and bobey the instructions which I am about to give unto you; for all those who have this law revealed unto them must obey the same.

4 For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting acovenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye bdamned; for no one can creject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory.

5 For all who will have a ablessing at my hands shall abide the blaw which was appointed for that blessing, and the conditions thereof, as were instituted from before the foundation of the world.

6 And as pertaining to the anew and everlasting covenant, it was instituted for the fulness of my bglory; and he that receiveth a fulness thereof must and shall abide the law, or he shall be damned, saith the Lord God.

Canoe52

(2,948 posts)
12. Religion...Telling you what they think god is telling them since the dawn of mankind.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:13 PM
Mar 2020

What is it about us that we need to suspend belief in reality in order to be spiritual?
Can we be spiritual and not have to give ourselves a frontal lobotomy at the same time?

Roy Rolling

(6,911 posts)
6. "Latter Day Saints"
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 06:15 PM
Mar 2020

I like the old Saints better. During the whole written account of his life and words, not once did Jesus mention or condemn a “homosexual lifestyle”. Not once.

That’s how the old saints did it. It’s just the “new” saints who think they have improved upon what Jesus did.

FreeState

(10,570 posts)
7. The Church was trying to get listed on job boards again by hiding its homophobia
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 06:16 PM
Mar 2020

Many law schools etc have pulled BYU from their listing. The church was trying to get back on those listings by having their bishops enforce this rather than the schools honor code. There is NO HONOR at BYU.

The Church is a cult.

https://cesletter.org
https://www.letterformywife.com/the-letter
http://www.mormonthink.com/

AllaN01Bear

(18,138 posts)
10. dont forget the holy underwear!!!.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 06:25 PM
Mar 2020

guess they also dont understand love thy neigbor as thy self , on these two laws hang all the laws and the prophets .

keithbvadu2

(36,752 posts)
13. Some principles are flexible.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:35 PM
Mar 2020

Some principles are flexible.

Divorce

But not much different than most other 'Christian' churches on the teaching of Jesus about divorce.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=mormon+church+divorce

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
16. Same goes for Christianity. Not that I am anti-religious. Just not religious
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:58 PM
Mar 2020

All of my friends are Christian to varying degrees. As is my wife. But on the rare occasion that I do discuss it with my friends, Christian all, normally at their initiative, I use the Mormons as an example for context.

They talk about the early witnesses to Christ and his miracles supporting it truth. Like Hebrew fishermen were literate enough to write the early books of the New Testament. Anyway, they all think the Mormon beliefs are crazy with the magic scrolls, Everyman a god, magic underwear and so on. I point out millions of people have no problem believing that and ask them to explain why it is anymore unbelievable than the whole virgin birth raised from the death thing. Fortunately my friends are introspective enough to chuckle about it all.

Most of the great people I have know are Christian and the few Mormons I know are good and honest people. I just can’t lie to myself.

I do not have such discussions with my Southern Baptist family members. They would not chuckle!

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
19. I have an idea if you disagree
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 03:30 PM
Mar 2020

Don't be Mormon.

Their religion is their business. It's certainly not my religion. Ergo, I don't care what they believe.

As a Jewish guy, I disagree with basically 97.8% of the USA regarding theology, and they disagree with me.

Learn to ignore and get along.

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