Coronavirus kills 3 family members and sickens 4 others after a dinner in New Jersey

[OnlinePoker]

Source: CNN

A New Jersey mother died from coronavirus without knowing that her two children also got infected and died shortly before she did, The New York Times reported.

Grace Fusco, 73, died Wednesday and was unaware of the deaths of her oldest son and daughter from Covid-19, the disease caused by coronavirus.

A relative told the newspaper that four other children also have coronavirus and remain hospitalized -- three in critical condition. CNN has reached out to a family representative but has not heard back.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/health/new-jersey-coronavirus-family-members-killed/index.html

[Liberty Belle]

1. Scary, I wonder if there is a new strain or did they wait too late to get treatment?

[PatSeg]

3. Very scary

I was wondering the same thing, though there are people who have been able to recuperate at home without treatment or being hospitalized. How horrifying for this poor family.

[cstanleytech]

4. True its scary especially since they were only in the slightly increased risk age category but

I do wonder if maybe they had an underlying inherited health problem that put them at even higher risk like diabetes and or heart disease.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. The thing is constantly mutating. Here's mutations as of March 7

[Laelth]

9. Nifty. Have a link for that? I'd like to see the whole article. n/t

-Laelth

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. In Spanish, but it might have links to English

https://francis.naukas.com/2020/03/07/las-mutaciones-del-coronavirus-sars-cov-2/

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. This one has March 13 and a world map. I think it is the source.

https://nextstrain.org/ncov

You can interactively move the date range on the left side.

[moriah]

15. Yep, that's the tracker.

Note that this project is not really separating them out by functionality, but by phylogeny -- for tracking disease clusters, spread, etc.

Also, that's only approximately 800 patients (so far) who have had their viruses sequenced -- I keep waiting to see something about the New Rochelle cluster, but I can't identify if any of those have been submitted. It's VERY limited information when there are 200k confirmed positives.

The fact it has mutated does not necessarily mean a mutation will make the resulting transmitted viruses more or less virulent.

What is interesting though is that Washington State has been the primary uploader, and it seems clear that most of their cases seem to have originated either from the first WA patient (who had travel to Wuhan), or were related in some other way -- like, he either caught it upon arrival back home/on the plane from another person who didn't know they were sick and spread it in Seattle, or the enormous amount of effort that went into trying to trace his contacts after leaving China missed someone critical.

Yet there are also at least four unrelated introductions into the Seattle area.

The Utah lab has submitted samples for testing -- not a bad idea given how many Mormons travel for missions. The viruses they have submitted don't really "cluster" anywhere NEAR as nearly as the Washington State outbreak, suggesting it got to Utah from multiple sources more recently than one source in mid-January like WA.

Nextstrain is far more valuable to see how transmissions are occurring and identify transmission clusters than to say that any of the differences in the viruses they've submitted qualify enough to be a new "strain" of SARS-CoV-2.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Yes. The chart is only the known and viable mutations. The longest is 14. . . . nt

[BusyBeingBest]

2. Thank God she didn't know her children had passed away.

[Laelth]

5. Several young and healthy people died from COVID-19 in that family.

The most likely explanation is a CYTOKINE STORM reaction.



-Laelth

[mathematic]

6. They were not young and how do you know they were healthy?

Old people have middle aged kids, you know. The article says the daughter was 55.

[Laelth]

8. The article also says the 55-year-old had a son who died.

How old could he have been? There was another younger-group fatality mentioned as well, as I recall.

The Cytokine Storm is a real thing. I see no value in either ignoring or dismissing this danger.

-Laelth

[mathematic]

10. The article does not say that. Read it more carefully.

A New Jersey mother died from coronavirus without knowing that her two children also got infected and died shortly before she did, The New York Times reported.

Grace Fusco, 73, died Wednesday and was unaware of the deaths of her oldest son and daughter from Covid-19, the disease caused by coronavirus.

Grace Fusco's oldest daughter, Rita Fusco-Jackson, 55, of Freehold, New Jersey, died Friday. Shortly afterward, the family learned she [Grace Fusco] had coronavirus. Her [Grace Fusco's] son, Carmine Fusco, of Bath, Pennsylvania, died just before his mother Wednesday.

[LisaL]

11. Or maybe the family has the genetic predisposition making covid especially deadly for them.

[cstanleytech]

13. Simply a whole lot of information missing from the article for any of us

to truly know.

[Warpy]

17. No one knows why it turns ugly in some people

but since health care workers in China were among young people dying from it, viral load might be a factor.

When it does turn ugly, it does so very quickly.

We just don't know and won't know for some time to come.

[Jarqui]

18. Obesity is a significant liability with this virus

The picture of the family suggests a lot of them had some excess padding.

[AZ8theist]

19. Where's your justification for that claim?

Other than a photo of the family, do you have any other evidence that obesity is a factor in the survival rate of Covid19?

[LisaL]

20. Obesity is a risk factor.

"“Including cardiovascular disease that seems to put you at risk, and I understand there’s a big problem right now with some of the people on respirators who are severely overweight, so obesity seems to be a risk factor," Dr. Brobson Lutz said."
https://www.fox8live.com/2020/03/19/those-most-risk-covid-when-is-hospitalization-necessary/

[Jarqui]

21. Start here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=obesity+coronavirus&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA863CA863&oq=obesity+coronavirus&aqs=chrome..69i57.8853j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Heart Disease
Lung Disease
Diabetes

are listed by the CDC

But those breakdown into more details
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-03-18/whos-most-at-risk-from-coronavirus

If you know anything about obesity, heart disease (including high blood pressure), diabetes and respiratory issues go hand in hand with the condition of obesity. In other words, anyone who is truly obese is likely to have one or more of those conditions.

I could go on but having said that much, the rest should be pretty self evident if you have been following the medical assessments on who is more vulnerable and why.

All the photo does is reinforce that many of the family members looked obese.