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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:35 AM Jan 2012

Kerrey mulling comeback, revives Democratic hopes

Published: Thursday, Jan. 12, 2012 / Updated: Thursday, Jan. 12, 2012 03:47 PM
Kerrey mulling comeback, revives Democratic hopes
By MARGERY BECK and HENRY C. JACKSON - Associated Press

By MARGERY BECK and HENRY C. JACKSON OMAHA, Neb. -- More than a decade after he left this heartland state for New York City, former Sen. Bob Kerrey is considering an improbable comeback run for his old Senate seat, a prospect even he rates as a longshot.

"I would say if you bet ... you'd have to bet against me," Kerrey told The Associated Press this week. "I've been away 11 years. I'm a Democrat. Obama's going to top the ticket, and he's probably going to be unpopular. So I'd say the odds are probably not good."

Since the Senate was founded, only 22 senators have been re-elected to the chamber after a two-term or more gap, according to research by Eric Ostermeier, a research associate at the University of Minnesota, who runs the web site Smart Politics. An even smaller sliver of those, Ostermeier said, have occurred in the "modern era" of political campaigns.

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Kerrey mulling comeback, revives Democratic hopes (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jan 2012 OP
"Obama's going to be unpopular . . ." MrModerate Jan 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Jan 2012 #8
He's speaking of Nebraska - and it is likely pretty realistic karynnj Jan 2012 #14
I think Kerrey meant disndat Jan 2012 #20
It's important to note that Obama was popular in Nebraska... CoffeeCat Jan 2012 #27
he lost to McCain in the GE by 57 - 42, he won all of 4 counties... paulk Jan 2012 #35
Why the hell did he spew that shit ? Tx4obama Jan 2012 #2
The context is that he is speaking of Nebraska karynnj Jan 2012 #15
There Is Another Unknown DallasNE Jan 2012 #25
So any Dem who doesn't support one of his own is automatically an a-hole? aquarius venus Jan 2012 #26
Bob Kerrey was an ass to Obama in 2008 also when he supported Hillary JI7 Jan 2012 #3
What are his positions on issues? limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #4
+1 riglerej Jan 2012 #5
He's a moderate so I suspect many on this site would trash him on many of his positions. DCBob Jan 2012 #7
yeah, moderates have no voice in both political parties. center rising Jan 2012 #24
It doesn't matter what his views are. Grins Jan 2012 #29
OTOH, he doesn't have to build his network from scratch--he knows people already. MADem Jan 2012 #31
I believe his previous seniority counts Hawkowl Jan 2012 #39
I hope he goes for it.. DCBob Jan 2012 #6
Absolutely disndat Jan 2012 #22
Maybe He Meant that the President... MarianJack Jan 2012 #9
I agree Omaha Steve Jan 2012 #10
You could be right, but... Wait Wut Jan 2012 #12
Kerrey can go soak his head. [nt] Jester Messiah Jan 2012 #11
I guess he figures BootinUp Jan 2012 #13
When last seen Kerrey was a member of the 9/11 LibDemAlways Jan 2012 #16
I was going to post something similar. Instead, I'll just endorse your statement DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #19
Bingo. wakemewhenitsover Jan 2012 #21
He co-taught a class I took in college. OrwellwasRight Jan 2012 #34
jesus. find someone new. mopinko Jan 2012 #17
NO! sarcasmo Jan 2012 #18
Term Limits JJW Jan 2012 #23
What does that even mean? OrwellwasRight Jan 2012 #33
Bob Kerrey acted like an ASS to Obama!!! CoffeeCat Jan 2012 #28
boo hoo paulk Jan 2012 #37
It's not about Obama... CoffeeCat Jan 2012 #38
Bob Kerrey is not a friend to working people. Just another Ben Nelson, only worse. Citizen Worker Jan 2012 #30
time for everyone to save America from being taken over by the Republicans! rebel999 Jan 2012 #32
Interesting. Not because I like the guy, (not a fan, trust me) BlueIris Jan 2012 #36
 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
1. "Obama's going to be unpopular . . ."
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:43 AM
Jan 2012

A very dickish, unhelpful, craven, and probably incorrect statement. I think Bob should stay in NYC.

Between Omaha and NYC, I know which I'd choose.

Response to MrModerate (Reply #1)

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
14. He's speaking of Nebraska - and it is likely pretty realistic
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:56 AM
Jan 2012

I would guess that he is simply thinking out loud - and there he is listing the real difficulties. It may signal that he is pretty leery about doing it - or he might be making that case - in advance - that he knows it will not be easy.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
27. It's important to note that Obama was popular in Nebraska...
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:37 PM
Jan 2012

...during the Democratic primary and in the Presidential election. Nebraskans rallied
around Obama. There were unprecedented lines at the polls--people voting for Obama
and there was a lot of enthusiasm and support for him.

Nebraska has a caucus system and Obama won handily over Hillary Clinton.

I live in Iowa and remember how our Nebraskan neighbors reacted, as I was an Obama
precinct captain and watching the process very closely.

paulk

(11,586 posts)
35. he lost to McCain in the GE by 57 - 42, he won all of 4 counties...
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 03:51 PM
Jan 2012

and while he may have won the caucuses by a large margin, he only won the non binding primary, where almost three times as many voters participated, by a 49 - 46 margin. Not exactly a crushing victory and a good argument as to why a caucus system is not a good barometer for "support".

Kerrey is right, Obama is not popular in NE and will be a drag on the ticket down ballet. Any Democrat would.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
2. Why the hell did he spew that shit ?
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:45 AM
Jan 2012

What he said was uncalled for !!!:

"I would say if you bet ... you'd have to bet against me," Kerrey told The Associated Press this week. "I've been away 11 years. I'm a Democrat. Obama's going to top the ticket, and he's probably going to be unpopular. So I'd say the odds are probably not good."


Asshole!
Betcha President Obama won't be doing any campaigning for him!

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
15. The context is that he is speaking of Nebraska
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jan 2012

I would bet that, if he ran, Obama likely would campaign for him in Omaha. The reason, Obama got one elector from Nebraska because they split their vote by districts. It would be good for Obama and good for Kerrey.

If Kerrey is willing to do it in spite of the low odds (and this was a seat thought 100% certain to be lost when Nelson opted not to run), more power to him. It will be a tough campaign.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
25. There Is Another Unknown
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:28 PM
Jan 2012

Concerning Nebraska politics and that there has been this unwritten rule that this Senate seat is the Omaha seat. Nobody from Omaha runs for the seat currently held by Mike Johanns and nobody from outstate runs for this seat. As of today, there is nobody from Omaha running for this seat. Will this matter? Only time will tell. Nebraskans may not be too happy if both Senators come from Lincoln.

 

aquarius venus

(13 posts)
26. So any Dem who doesn't support one of his own is automatically an a-hole?
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:31 PM
Jan 2012

Really? No matter what said Dem does? Wow, just wow...I thought we loved CHOICE so much here...

JI7

(89,240 posts)
3. Bob Kerrey was an ass to Obama in 2008 also when he supported Hillary
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 05:02 AM
Jan 2012

although even though he likes Hillary he hated her husband.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
4. What are his positions on issues?
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 05:05 AM
Jan 2012

like NDAA, SOPA, public option health care, defense spending, social security, etc.

Let's find out what his positions on modern issues are, and then decide whether to support him, based on that.

He has an interesting take on Obama's popularity. He's probably been looking at Nebraska opinion polls where Obama is unpopular. Or he was just speaking off the cuff. It would be incredibly childish and simplistic to harp on that one statement and try to somehow pretend Kerrey is "against obama" or something.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
7. He's a moderate so I suspect many on this site would trash him on many of his positions.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 08:00 AM
Jan 2012

But he could win in NE and that would help us keep the majority in the Senate and stop the Republicans from potentially steamrolling the country.

Grins

(7,195 posts)
29. It doesn't matter what his views are.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:20 PM
Jan 2012

The problem is he's 69. At that age there is no way he can ever build what you need to be a power in the Senate - seniority. Kerrey ran for Senate and won when he was 39. If he had continued to serve he would be running for his 6th term and be a force in the Senate. He didn't, and the party and Nebraska lost. If he gets elected he will most likely serve one term, turn 75, and be gone.

Nebraska, and all states, need to start nominating and electing people in their 40's for the Senate.

And 40's for the lower-court Judges; to be ready in their 50's for a shot at the Supreme Court should there be an opening, I might add.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
31. OTOH, he doesn't have to build his network from scratch--he knows people already.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 06:05 AM
Jan 2012

He wasn't sitting on his butt in a closet in NYC--he was out and about there, running the New School.

I'd want to see him saying those words to be sure of the context, but I think he was talking about the voter mood in NE, not doing any personal indicting.

He could probably come back up to speed VERY quickly.

As for age, Teddy Kennedy was very active and getting quite healthy, thanks to his wife, before his cancer came on. Absent the cancer, he probably would have lived a decade or more longer, and he died at 77. Robert Byrd lasted a long time, and he was pretty vigorous for much of his later years. Kerrey could do two tours easy, maybe even a third if he stayed well and had a really sharp staff.

Another article on this topic, with a bit of video:

http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/Kerrey_Returns_To_Nebraska_As_Decision_To_Run_Again_Looms_137222353.html?ref=353

 

Hawkowl

(5,213 posts)
39. I believe his previous seniority counts
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 02:22 AM
Jan 2012

I don't think he starts over as a freshman senator. I think his previous time counts towards his overall seniority.

disndat

(1,887 posts)
22. Absolutely
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:13 PM
Jan 2012

The Obama team would support him 100% and that would be countervailing to Kerrey's other negatives. The Senate control is gong to be the election battleground, more than the Presidential race.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
9. Maybe He Meant that the President...
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 08:31 AM
Jan 2012

...would be unpopular in Nebraska, which is one of the deepest red states in the union. This is in spite of the fact that he did pick up one of their electoral votes last time around.

PEACE!

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
12. You could be right, but...
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 09:55 AM
Jan 2012

...then why mention it at all? Because Nebraska is a red state, I would think alienating those that support Pres. Obama would be a bad idea. Why not just run on his own merits instead of either kicking to the curb or latching onto our President? It would be a much more politically safe move. It sounds like he's already accepted defeat and is ready to blame the President for the loss.

BootinUp

(47,079 posts)
13. I guess he figures
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:09 AM
Jan 2012

he needs to start making snide disparaging remarks on Obama right away to improve his chances.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
16. When last seen Kerrey was a member of the 9/11
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:28 PM
Jan 2012

cover-up commission. He's a snake, and, IMO lost all credibility with his participation in that travesty.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
34. He co-taught a class I took in college.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:31 PM
Jan 2012

Probably the most progressive class I ever took. All about racism, and anti-semitism, and the travesty of the Vietnam War. I'm not sure where all the anti-Kerrey anger is coming from in this thread (not just your post), but I'm not convinced he is the guy you think he is.

mopinko

(69,990 posts)
17. jesus. find someone new.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:36 PM
Jan 2012

you just can't tell me there is ONE good candidate for that senate seat in the whole f'ing state.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
33. What does that even mean?
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:25 PM
Jan 2012

Bob Kerrey was a good, truth-speaking Senator, not a career stooge. And the point of term limits, to erase the advantage of incumbency, would not apply to Kerrey after his long hiatus.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
28. Bob Kerrey acted like an ASS to Obama!!!
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jan 2012

Does anyone remember what a schmuck Bob Kerrey was to Obama, during the
2008 Democratic primary?

Kerrey endorsed Hillary and then went on to say this about Obama, when a reporter asked
Kerrey about Obama's presidential qualifications, "It's probably not something that appeals to him, but I like the fact that his name is Barack Hussein Obama."

At the time, people were getting to know Obama (as Iowa led off the beginning of the primary) and many conservatives were trying to undermine Obama by suggesting that he was a Muslim. The Republicans launched a huge smear campaign--suggesting that Obama was a Muslim. So Kerry's remarks were not innocuous, as he later suggested. He clearly knew what he was doing.

It appeared that Kerrey was attempting to help Hillary--by disparaging Obama.

Kerry made these Muslim comments in Iowa, and he later wrote Obama a letter of apology for those heinous remarks!

Kerrey never liked Obama. Kerrey is also a big warmongering-neocon. He is one of the corporatist Dems who would sell their soul to any corporation. The last thing we need is another neocon, corporate loving, corrupt politician in DC. Kerry must really love all of the sociopathic behavior happening in DC these days. He sees our county rotting to the core, and he wants in on all of the money and power that is being coalesced at the very top echelons--which are stacked with powerful politicians, greedy corporations and other mucky mucks.

Kerrey wants in on the psycho party. He can go to hell, as far as I'm concerned.


paulk

(11,586 posts)
37. boo hoo
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 09:24 PM
Jan 2012

I mean, it's all about Obama, isn't it?

It's really about control of the Senate, kind of shocking, I understand - but just because the fellow was a schmuck (OMG!) to Obama doesn't mean we don't need him to win in NE.

And he has the best chance of any potential Dem candidates, having won that seat in the past.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
38. It's not about Obama...
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:06 AM
Jan 2012

I'm just pointing out that Kerrey is a third-rate chump and a total ass.

What he did to Obama was smarmy and Rovian. Democrats aren't supposed
to be that shitty to other Democrats. It really has nothing to do with Obama.

And what he did to Obama pales in comparison to his corporate toe sucking
and warmongering.

Hell if we need another corrupt, cowardly Democrat in office who will continue
the neocon warmongering wet dreams while helping the corporate mucky mucks
take over our democracy and make "We The People" irrelevant.

Kerrey blows.

 

rebel999

(11 posts)
32. time for everyone to save America from being taken over by the Republicans!
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 07:05 AM
Jan 2012

America is in the mist of an revolution and if we don't organize and ALL put our best foot forward we the people will lose this revolution and the rich and the Republicans will again RULE America and furthur enslave us ALL as they have done with Reagan and the Bush sr. and Bush jr.. Sen. Kerry may be the best candidate we have to win a seat in Congress from his state so he has an OBLIGATION to run for the Senate. This election is the most important election in our lifetime and EVERY single Republican will be voting. We NEED candidates to overcome the Republicans. This is no time for Democrats and ALL others to sit on the sidelines and say that they will not vote or not run for office for one reason or the other. If the Republicans win this election then the Bush tax cuts will become permanete, abortions will become illegal, laws that protect our lives and environment will be gutted and our lives will be made miserable in many other ways by the Republicans! Is that what you want Mr. Kerry and the rest of YOU! Wake up and start fighting back! Read my web page at www.mybetteramericaplan.com to see ideas about how the Republicans have destroyed America and how we can win this election by moving voters from sure to win states and sure to lose states into too close to call states and need to win states.

BlueIris

(29,135 posts)
36. Interesting. Not because I like the guy, (not a fan, trust me)
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 08:03 PM
Jan 2012

but because I find anyone's desire for a comeback to be potentially fun.

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