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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:59 PM Mar 2020

California Gov. Gavin Newsom orders all Californians to stay at home

Source: San Diego Union

Gov. Gavin Newsom on Thursday ordered all Californians to stay at home, marking the first mandatory restrictions placed on the lives of all 40 million residents in the state’s fight against the novel coronavirus.

The governor’s order comes at a critical time in California, where 19 people died and another 958 have tested positive for the disease.

Officials hope telling people to remain in their homes and restrict social interactions will slow the spread of the virus and ultimately prevent hospitals from being overrun with sick patients. The request for all residents to quarantine at home marks the strongest escalation of the Newsom administration's response to the virus.

Newsom on Thursday also asked Congress for $1 billion in federal funds to support the state’s medical response to the novel coronavirus, which he said he expects will infect more than half of all Californians. The state projects that 25.5 million people in California will be infected with the coronavirus over an eight-week period.

Read more: https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/california/story/2020-03-19/gavin-newsom-california-1-billion-federal-aid-coronavirus

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California Gov. Gavin Newsom orders all Californians to stay at home (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 OP
Real leadership is making the difficult call, when political expediency says otherwise sandensea Mar 2020 #1
+1 EarthFirst Mar 2020 #3
I wish more governors would follow his and Cuomo's leads Politicub Mar 2020 #7
He strikes me as the kind that, while mollifying the public, stockpiles bath tissue and dumps stocks sandensea Mar 2020 #12
--- cold, dead, brown hands. 3Hotdogs Mar 2020 #29
Yeah. They must smell like a dog's behind. sandensea Mar 2020 #36
You will eventually. n/t Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #22
Your words to God's ear sandensea Mar 2020 #23
AGREED! Let's have more of this leadership from other governors NOW. flibbitygiblets Mar 2020 #34
Ditto, Governor Newsom DonaldsRump Mar 2020 #2
...and see this is where state/local governments need to get ahead of EarthFirst Mar 2020 #4
I feel like right now time is at a literal stand still. Initech Mar 2020 #21
I'm assuming grocery stores and pharmacies will stay open? NickB79 Mar 2020 #5
My brothers in greater LA area still have to work - one picks up the garbage and recycle and one iluvtennis Mar 2020 #10
From Buzzfeed Native Mar 2020 #11
So it's like the shelter-in-place order for the Bay Area. Grokenstein Mar 2020 #30
Since it isn't a lockdown I suspect that is ok for them to shop for food, meds ect.... yaesu Mar 2020 #6
yes, according to CNN n/t left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #8
My local Trade Joe's limited the number of shoppers allowed inside the store BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #18
I saw this at Costco today, too. You have to line up R B Garr Mar 2020 #25
Very much what I've been doing for about ten days. B Stieg Mar 2020 #9
Yep. Be aggressive now jeffreyi Mar 2020 #13
Orders people to stay at home MichMan Mar 2020 #14
Stay at home except ... left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #15
It seems to mean "stay near home", no travel certainly, only venture to stores,etc if you FailureToCommunicate Mar 2020 #17
They have not specifically banned travelling of any certain distance. Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #35
I'm here in Northern California jls4561 Mar 2020 #16
Yes, they need the supplies from the vets' and dentists' offices. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #19
Oh shoot, they were going to clip Jake's nails too jls4561 Mar 2020 #20
Speaking of power. I hope this doesn't continue into the summer months. C Moon Mar 2020 #43
How the fuck are they going to enforce this?? ansible Mar 2020 #24
Limiting mobility limits the spread of the virus left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #26
My parents live in the Sierra Nevada mountains near Yosemite with no cellphone signal at all ansible Mar 2020 #27
Then Under the Order, You Are Okay. TomCADem Mar 2020 #31
Won't be much traffic if you drive up there IronLionZion Mar 2020 #33
what are they doing for all those souls without a home? joanbarnes Mar 2020 #28
Oddly, I saw a medical service RV pulled up at a normal homeless camping spot yesterday. byronius Mar 2020 #32
In Oakland the state is putting them in hotel rooms Demobrat Mar 2020 #37
Where California goes, the nation follows. ffr Mar 2020 #38
The whole country needs to shut down NOW and test every one in BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #41
We have no choice. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #39
Thank you California bluecollar2 Mar 2020 #40
Answer me this.. Olafjoy Mar 2020 #42
You can see the entire Newsom speech here, if you'd like: NBachers Mar 2020 #44
going fishing? RicROC Mar 2020 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author AllaN01Bear Mar 2020 #46

sandensea

(21,621 posts)
1. Real leadership is making the difficult call, when political expediency says otherwise
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:00 PM
Mar 2020

Thank you, Governor Newsom.

How I wish we had you or someone like you in the White House at this critical time.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
3. +1
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:06 PM
Mar 2020

I hope that Governor Cuomo who has been fantastic with all of this finds it prudent to follow Newsom’s lead...

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
7. I wish more governors would follow his and Cuomo's leads
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:17 PM
Mar 2020

The governor of Georgia is a moron who babbles about prayer and online worship. He gave an address today that lasted an hour where he basically just gave updated numbers, and that was it.

sandensea

(21,621 posts)
12. He strikes me as the kind that, while mollifying the public, stockpiles bath tissue and dumps stocks
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:29 PM
Mar 2020

"Y'all will pry this Charmin' from mah cold dead hands!"

sandensea

(21,621 posts)
36. Yeah. They must smell like a dog's behind.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 12:06 AM
Mar 2020

I had a Basset for years. Their behinds start for smell pretty quickly if you don't bathe them often enough.



"What?"

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
34. AGREED! Let's have more of this leadership from other governors NOW.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:37 PM
Mar 2020

Jesus Christ, what actually has to happen, can they not see the Italian scenario playing out before their eyes?

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
2. Ditto, Governor Newsom
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:05 PM
Mar 2020

We've been under lockdown in the Bay Area since Tuesday morning at 1201am Pacific. It's fine.

I've been to the grocery once, and I have a couple of online deliveries coming for us and some neighbors soon. We reached out to folks on our street and volunteered that we could buy stuff for them, and they were happy.

At least you showed leadership, unlike that fool who is occupying our White House.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
4. ...and see this is where state/local governments need to get ahead of
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:11 PM
Mar 2020

...and in detailed form explain to the public that the shelter in place orders work.

Additionally that a shelter in place is not going to be razor wire at the intersections of your community. It will not be military humvees patrolling the streets with automatic weapons and searchlights.

You still have access to groceries, pharmacies, etc.

You just can’t scratch that PinkBerry itch you get at 8:30 on a Wednesday evening.

This too; shall pass...

Initech

(100,060 posts)
21. I feel like right now time is at a literal stand still.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:54 PM
Mar 2020

The 2 weeks they're projecting can't get here soon enough. 8 weeks is going to feel like an eternity at this point.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
5. I'm assuming grocery stores and pharmacies will stay open?
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:14 PM
Mar 2020

Does Wal-Mart stay open since they're both?

Also, I wonder if those who work in supplying grocery stores still work? I'm in a dairy factory in Minnesota, and this question has been on my mind if this happens here.

iluvtennis

(19,844 posts)
10. My brothers in greater LA area still have to work - one picks up the garbage and recycle and one
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:20 PM
Mar 2020

delivers food/etc to major grocery store chain. They both still hve to report to work.

Native

(5,939 posts)
11. From Buzzfeed
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:29 PM
Mar 2020
The Los Angeles order, which will stay in effect until at least April 19, requires all businesses, including museums, malls, retail stores, and workplaces, to stop operations and only allows people to leave their home for "essential activities," like to pick up food, go to the doctor, or take a walk in the neighborhood. It will take effect midnight Thursday, though businesses will have an additional day to prepare to close.

The state's order, which does not have a set end date, includes exemptions for public safety and health care operations as well as other essential services, including laundromats, grocery stores, and restaurants that offer takeout or delivery. But even those essential businesses will need to incorporate social distancing practices — keeping 6 feet of space between individual employees and customers, officials said.

Under state law, violations of the order are punishable by a fine of up to $1,000 or by imprisonment for no more than six months — however, Newsom and local officials have stressed they do not plan to have police handling enforcement.

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
30. So it's like the shelter-in-place order for the Bay Area.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:26 PM
Mar 2020

You're not locked inside, but businesses have to work within reason to eliminate close gatherings, etc.

I'm in San Mateo County and most restaurants have gone "take-out or delivery only," while a few have closed up for the duration of the order (some until May). Safeway, Walgreens, Wal-Mart, etc. have reduced hours--little weird, as this will concentrate customers within the shorter hours. Public transportation still runs.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
6. Since it isn't a lockdown I suspect that is ok for them to shop for food, meds ect....
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:16 PM
Mar 2020

as long as they stay 6' apart (which will be quite a trick if you're in a grocery store unless they have crowd control limits at the entrance.)

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
18. My local Trade Joe's limited the number of shoppers allowed inside the store
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:45 PM
Mar 2020

when I went on Monday. I skipped it altogether. This is in San Diego.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
25. I saw this at Costco today, too. You have to line up
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:07 PM
Mar 2020

just to get inside. I saw the line and left, but I skipped the morning opening rush on purpose to find this new procedure to even get in.

MichMan

(11,901 posts)
14. Orders people to stay at home
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:31 PM
Mar 2020

but then says you can still go out. Which is it?

Look I'm all for minimizing interactions, but not seeing why it is categorized as a "Stay at Home" order

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
17. It seems to mean "stay near home", no travel certainly, only venture to stores,etc if you
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:43 PM
Mar 2020

really need to. But walking around outside -this IS sunny California after all- seems allowed, if you stay separate from fellow humans. Don't mingle, no play dates, no pick up basketball games at the park.

Mr.Bill

(24,274 posts)
35. They have not specifically banned travelling of any certain distance.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:40 PM
Mar 2020

For instance my wife sees a doctor 100 miles away in another county every three months. She could still do that. We would probably postpone it if it were now, but we wouldn't have to.

jls4561

(1,257 posts)
16. I'm here in Northern California
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:42 PM
Mar 2020

We can go out for essentials - grocery store, pharmacy. Restaurants are take out only.Fortunately, pet stores are considered essential, because Jake is 15 years old and requires special food. Also hardware stores.

I haven't been in the car since Monday - we do go out for walks. We're going out tomorrow for Jake's food, and I am looking forward to getting take out (I'm thinking Thai). It will probably be surreal, the way it was when PG&E shut off the power.

When the Bay Area got shut down, it was initially declared for two weeks. It looks like it's going to be a lot longer.

One creepy thing - Jake had his annual physical a week ago, and everything was normal except he needs his teeth cleaned. That's normal, that dog has always needs a yearly teeth cleaning. When the vet called me back to give me his test results, I asked about the teeth cleaning, scheduled for next week. She said, "Well, the vet board is advising us to postpone any non-essential procedures in case we need to use them for humans." I told her that I guess I could stand stinky dog breath for a little longer.

I'm assuming she means masks and such in terms of needed equipment, but good grief, what's the world coming to?

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
19. Yes, they need the supplies from the vets' and dentists' offices.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 10:50 PM
Mar 2020

I have to get my doggie's nails clipped (she is slipping when she hits a smooth surface) so I think that will be allowed.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
43. Speaking of power. I hope this doesn't continue into the summer months.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 01:35 AM
Mar 2020

Having everyone in their homes 24/7 is going to put a huge strain on the electrical grid.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
24. How the fuck are they going to enforce this??
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:04 PM
Mar 2020

Am I going to jail just for going outside now if the cops think whatever I'm doing isn't necessary???

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
26. Limiting mobility limits the spread of the virus
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:12 PM
Mar 2020
Everyone needs to do their part.

The more you go out, the more you expose yourself to the possibility of getting the virus
and dying.

If you don't care about yourself,
think of others you could spread it to if you get the virus.
 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
27. My parents live in the Sierra Nevada mountains near Yosemite with no cellphone signal at all
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:15 PM
Mar 2020

The only way I can even check on them is to physically go there and drive up Highway 140 which takes several hours. This has me scared shitless for them now, I know they only have enough supplies for two months if they're completely cut off.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
31. Then Under the Order, You Are Okay.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:26 PM
Mar 2020

"The supply chain must continue, and Californians must have access to
such necessities as food, prescriptions, and health care. When people
need to leave their homes or places of residence, whether to obtain
or perform the functions above, or to otherwise facilitate authorized
necessary activities, they should at all times practice social distancing."

IronLionZion

(45,411 posts)
33. Won't be much traffic if you drive up there
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:37 PM
Mar 2020

they are probably not going to enforce it too strictly. If you get pulled over, just tell the cops what you're doing. Drop off the supplies but don't hug your parents. I have friends who did that with rural parents here on the East Coast. Should be fine.

byronius

(7,392 posts)
32. Oddly, I saw a medical service RV pulled up at a normal homeless camping spot yesterday.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 11:28 PM
Mar 2020

First time ever. Downtown Sacramento, under a main freeway interchange. I've only seen police there before.

I know he's new, and this is as scary a test as any governor has faced. He's facing criticism for delaying the shelter-in-place order. But I think he cares.

I'd rather be here than in a red state run by a lunatic Trumper right now, lemmetellya.

Demobrat

(8,968 posts)
37. In Oakland the state is putting them in hotel rooms
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 12:07 AM
Mar 2020

California will house hundreds of homeless people in Oakland hotels amid the coronavirus outbreak.

The state secured 393 rooms across two hotels, Gov. Gavin Newsom announced Monday night, “to get people out of these encampments.”

That number could rise in the coming days as his team works to find additional hotel beds for people sleeping outside.


https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/16/coronavirus-oakland-hotels-to-shelter-homeless-people/

ffr

(22,668 posts)
38. Where California goes, the nation follows.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 12:16 AM
Mar 2020

I'd bet on it.

I don't want to show up for work either. We have people that must have missing brains. Their coming into work coughing, obviously sick, and obviously contagious. I'm seriously thinking of staying home tomorrow. I have a bad feeling about this.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
41. The whole country needs to shut down NOW and test every one in
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 01:05 AM
Mar 2020

the US. That is the only way we are going to stop this thing from going go and dragging out. That will really hurt everyone financially. Do it now and nip it in the bud. It is the only way.

If the country doesn't shut down will Newsom have to block all entries in and out of the state? Airports, roads, ports?

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
39. We have no choice.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 12:26 AM
Mar 2020

We must do this. We must flatten the currently straight up infection curve. We don't have tests. Our doctors don't have protective equipment. The hospitals are already overwhelmed. We must stay home. Now. Lives depend on it.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
40. Thank you California
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 12:28 AM
Mar 2020

For once again taking the lead.

Circumstances led to me moving away in 1987 but as soon as I can I will move back to the greatest state in the Union.

When I first emigrated to America it was to California...I consider it home.

Olafjoy

(937 posts)
42. Answer me this..
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 01:08 AM
Mar 2020

Does this mean my grown Cali children who are opting to shelter in my place in AZ need to go back to Cali cuz really they shouldn’t be out? Also, why do they sit around the table at 6:30 every night and stare at me expectantly? #quarantine2020 is definitely not my jam!!

RicROC

(1,204 posts)
45. going fishing?
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 10:03 AM
Mar 2020

I wonder if avoiding social contact by going fishing along a river would be as acceptable as staying home.

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