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(34,195 posts)
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 12:38 PM Mar 2020

Democrats call for stimulus to boost Social Security benefits by $200 a month

Source: The Hill

Senate Democrats on Saturday unveiled a plan to increase monthly Social Security benefits, veterans assistance and supplemental security income benefits by $200 a month, which could further add to a stimulus bill that is now estimated to cost between $1.3 trillion and $1.4 trillion.

The additional benefits, which would last through the end of 2021, would provide seniors, veterans and people with disabilities an extra $4,000 over the next two years.

Rep. John Larson (D-Conn.), the Ways and Means Social Security Subcommittee chairman, pitched his bill, The Emergency Social Security Benefits Improvement Act, on the call. It would provide for a 2 percent across-the-board increase in Social Security benefits for 64 million people, increase the threshold for the special minimum benefit to 125 percent the federal poverty level, and reduce taxes on benefits for low- and middle-income individuals and families.

Sen. Debbie Stabenow (Mich.), one of the Democratic negotiators, on Friday faulted the GOP plan for proposing $1,200 rebate checks for adults earning up to $75,000 per year but much less for people who earn little to no federally taxable income. “I couldn’t believe that they were talking about lowest income people getting $600 and somebody making $75,000 getting twice as much as that, $1,200,” she said.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/488803-democrats-call-for-stimulus-to-boost-social-security-benefits-by-200-a-month

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Democrats call for stimulus to boost Social Security benefits by $200 a month (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 OP
Kick this all over the place! Guilded Lilly Mar 2020 #1
I'm kicking! But something seems not quite right. watrwefitinfor Mar 2020 #46
Many seniors were doing part time work in stores blm Mar 2020 #2
+ 1 nt. iluvtennis Mar 2020 #18
+1 grantcart Mar 2020 #35
my aunt was cleaning tables etc -just 3-4 hours day but no more. They only do drive thru now. riversedge Mar 2020 #39
Good idea - taxpayer debt should go to people not big business - they have already received billions walkingman Mar 2020 #3
Tax relief Traildogbob Mar 2020 #8
And Traildogbob Mar 2020 #11
We do too stopwastingmymoney Mar 2020 #23
+1 llmart Mar 2020 #26
Yep..and keep telling peeps that Medicare is NOT free....... Bengus81 Mar 2020 #32
Preach!!! Traildogbob Mar 2020 #36
Damn, I will take that! Doreen Mar 2020 #4
im on ssi, theyd have to re adjust the earned income ceiling for me . AllaN01Bear Mar 2020 #13
That sucks.. SSDI seems to have a little more leeway. Doreen Mar 2020 #15
hihowdi AllaN01Bear Mar 2020 #21
I'm a live-in home care worker and pay no state or federal income tax. bluedigger Mar 2020 #5
Sounds like something that would PatSeg Mar 2020 #6
Yeah, I don't see the R's agreeing to this n/t moonscape Mar 2020 #9
Thanks Dems! jalan48 Mar 2020 #7
This would be a BIG help for me! liberalla Mar 2020 #10
It would so help. I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2020 #12
More like they will shove a knife in the backs of those on Social Security with a smile cstanleytech Mar 2020 #17
Fingers crossed Cetacea Mar 2020 #19
im on ssi, theyd have to re adjust the earned income ceiling for me . AllaN01Bear Mar 2020 #14
Everyone on Social Security should be getting 1200 a month at a minimum. cstanleytech Mar 2020 #16
$800 a month where I live is homeless. n/t Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #41
I'm on Rebl2 Mar 2020 #42
Well when my mother was alive about 8 years ago she was only getting something like 777. cstanleytech Mar 2020 #43
What you get back is based on what you paid in over the years. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #45
Great Move! McKim Mar 2020 #20
An excellent idea. warmfeet Mar 2020 #22
Not holding my breath pbmus Mar 2020 #24
No. The money should be channeled into larger unemployment benefits. roamer65 Mar 2020 #25
I recall something said about the elderly and disabled Cetacea Mar 2020 #29
What about the millions of newly unemployed with children? roamer65 Mar 2020 #47
Why should we even have to make a choice between the two?? Cetacea Mar 2020 #48
We will need to increase the taxes on the wealthy significantly. roamer65 Mar 2020 #49
Just give everyone the same amount, as Trump proposed. Cetacea Mar 2020 #50
Just repeal the Bush and Trump tax cuts hangaleft Mar 2020 #51
Yes! This is a good idea! Politicub Mar 2020 #27
Good. This is needed ASAP. Mersky Mar 2020 #28
THANK YOU DEMS,lets see how fast Pukes say NOT ENOUGH MONEY.... Bengus81 Mar 2020 #30
Please! The Figment Mar 2020 #31
Phone...$105 left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #33
Phone $105?? Bengus81 Mar 2020 #38
Phone bill The Figment Mar 2020 #44
You should check out Tracfone Karma13612 Mar 2020 #57
K & R...for visibility... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #34
Thank you, Elizabeth Warren! dchill Mar 2020 #37
I haven't really looked up to too many politicians in my life hangaleft Mar 2020 #52
Trump and the republicans aren't going to let go of THEIR treasury money to help those in need! usaf-vet Mar 2020 #40
Excellent move - any attempt to block it will raise hell with SS benefits and military retired Baclava Mar 2020 #53
I wonder what happens to MissMillie Mar 2020 #54
You'd should see all the MAGOTS on the Hill board claiming...... Bengus81 Mar 2020 #55
Well, it's easier to inject money there than anywhere else. BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #56
permanently reggaehead Mar 2020 #58

watrwefitinfor

(1,399 posts)
46. I'm kicking! But something seems not quite right.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 07:24 PM
Mar 2020

The headline and first paragraph state the plan is to "increase monthly Social Security benefits, veterans assistance and supplemental security income benefits by $200 a month".

The next paragraph says benefits are to increase by 2%.

But no matter how many times I multiply my $1070 monthly SS payment by 2%, I come up with $21.40, not $200!

A little further down it says it will "increase the threshold for the special minimum benefit to 125 percent the federal poverty level". What does this sentence mean? Does this bring the 2% up to $200?

Or have I completely lost all memory of math? What am I not seeing? Help.

Wat

blm

(113,047 posts)
2. Many seniors were doing part time work in stores
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 12:44 PM
Mar 2020

to add a few bucks to their social security checks. Now it has become too dangerous for them, so that extra 200 a month will be an enormous help to get them through the next year or so.

And THANK YOU to Elizabeth for putting this out there early and selling it to your colleagues.

walkingman

(7,600 posts)
3. Good idea - taxpayer debt should go to people not big business - they have already received billions
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 12:46 PM
Mar 2020

from the Trump tax cut.

Traildogbob

(8,724 posts)
8. Tax relief
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 01:02 PM
Mar 2020

For those that PAY taxes. Not those that loophole into no taxes and actually get tax payer subsidies already. Like that commercial for JG Whitman, it's my cash and I want it noooow! 877. CashNow!

stopwastingmymoney

(2,041 posts)
23. We do too
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:25 PM
Mar 2020

My husband is blind and on SSI, we do alright but I resent that tax bill on what are benefits he paid plenty for back when he could work. We’ve both been mostly self employed so we pay both halves of FICA too, 15.3% off the top every year

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
32. Yep..and keep telling peeps that Medicare is NOT free.......
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 03:03 PM
Mar 2020

Gawd,can't believe how many think if you can make it to 65 all your health care costs become nothing.

Traildogbob

(8,724 posts)
36. Preach!!!
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 03:22 PM
Mar 2020

And Medicare ($145.00 per month) only pays major hospital. You still need supplant ins with copays and deductibles. Enough of the insurers will be left broke if you have Medicare for all. There is home insurance, car insurance, motorcycle insurance, camper insurance life insurance, and even freakin pet insurance. Besides, how many families have been left broke when the "insurance" you had, refuses to pay?

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
4. Damn, I will take that!
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 12:56 PM
Mar 2020

$200 added to my SSDI would be very helpful. But it would end up at least keep us where we are at. With prices going up and there are those who's rent will go up due to increase. It will keep us from falling as far back if we did not get it.

AllaN01Bear

(18,182 posts)
21. hihowdi
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:19 PM
Mar 2020

at edit , a friend of mine said that because of the emergency this would be raised . also forgot to tell i am now also on regular ss.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
5. I'm a live-in home care worker and pay no state or federal income tax.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 12:58 PM
Mar 2020

But I still pay FICA, and all those other things. They'll probably just skip me.

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
6. Sounds like something that would
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 01:00 PM
Mar 2020

be hard to get passed in a republican controlled senate though. It certainly would help the economy and when everyone does well, everyone does well, even corporations.

jalan48

(13,860 posts)
7. Thanks Dems!
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 01:00 PM
Mar 2020

Rep. John Larson (D-Conn.), the Ways and Means Social Security Subcommittee chairman, pitched his bill, The Emergency Social Security Benefits Improvement Act, on the call.


Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) joined Sen. Ron Wyden (Ore.), the senior Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) in calling for the expanded benefits to be added to the phase three stimulus bill.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
12. It would so help.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 01:21 PM
Mar 2020

I hope electric,rent and costs don't go up,or my foodstamps go down to make the extra $200 become meaningless. The way things are adjusted make sure cola raises are not really a raise . It's a shell game.
Haven't seen any $ leftover for years. I'm just cynical because republicans have to approve of it,and they'll rig it.

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
17. More like they will shove a knife in the backs of those on Social Security with a smile
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 01:55 PM
Mar 2020

on their lips and probably quoting something religious from Jesus while they are doing it.

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
19. Fingers crossed
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:00 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:51 PM - Edit history (1)

I think this might actually happen. On the other hand it could be a sign that republicans were planning on doing nothing for this group.

AllaN01Bear

(18,182 posts)
14. im on ssi, theyd have to re adjust the earned income ceiling for me .
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 01:37 PM
Mar 2020

aslo id like to see everything restored that the rs have cut in the last 30 years .

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
16. Everyone on Social Security should be getting 1200 a month at a minimum.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 01:51 PM
Mar 2020

That includes those receiving disability as for some people I heard its somewhere around 800 or so a month and that's poverty level area.

Rebl2

(13,494 posts)
42. I'm on
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 05:10 PM
Mar 2020

social security disability and get around $746 a month. I’ve been on it since 1980 and in the beginning I received $188 a month. I think back then it was dependent on how many quarters you had worked. I was 20 at the time and had just barely worked enough quarters. Have no idea how it is figured today.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,851 posts)
45. What you get back is based on what you paid in over the years.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 06:06 PM
Mar 2020

I believe there is no actual minimum that a person can receive.

There are also a number of people who have taken great pride over the years in not paying taxes, being paid under the table, and then are astonished to learn they will get little or no Social Security.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
20. Great Move!
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:01 PM
Mar 2020

Great move!!!! I will use some of it to tip Amazon and other delivery people and donate to those helping in our homeless camps.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
25. No. The money should be channeled into larger unemployment benefits.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:38 PM
Mar 2020

Most of the unemployed have families to feed.

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
29. I recall something said about the elderly and disabled
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:42 PM
Mar 2020

by a republican senator a few years ago."Let them eat cat food..."

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
47. What about the millions of newly unemployed with children?
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:38 PM
Mar 2020

Seniors and SSDI are already getting assistance. We need to prioritize and get assistance to these unemployed folks fast just like the U.K. announced.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
49. We will need to increase the taxes on the wealthy significantly.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 12:57 AM
Mar 2020

Can we get that through Congress?

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
50. Just give everyone the same amount, as Trump proposed.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 01:00 AM
Mar 2020

Apparently there is enough money for that, but the GOP wants to send a message. No tax increase needed.

 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
51. Just repeal the Bush and Trump tax cuts
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 05:03 AM
Mar 2020

Return to the status quo ante.

Mitch will be chomping at the bit to push that legislation through the Senate!

And while we’re at it, eliminate... not raise... eliminate the cap. And make passive income subject to FICA, too.

Easy peasy. Those simple steps would give the Treasury more than enough to give a much needed helping hand to those who need it without increasing the national debt.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
27. Yes! This is a good idea!
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:40 PM
Mar 2020

It's such a benevolent act, though, that I can't see the GOP voting in favor of it.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
28. Good. This is needed ASAP.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:40 PM
Mar 2020


And Stabenow’s criticisms match my own. People need money for consumables now. Don’t give more money to the folks who were already financially capable of preparing (and hoarding).

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
30. THANK YOU DEMS,lets see how fast Pukes say NOT ENOUGH MONEY....
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 03:01 PM
Mar 2020

To pay for that socialism. Meanwhile get that golden check to Boeing for BILLIONS run though the printing machine.

The Figment

(494 posts)
31. Please!
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 03:02 PM
Mar 2020

Rent...$400
Electric...$65
Car insurance...$42
Phone...$105
Gas...$40
Total...$652

SSI...$781
I'm broke by the 15th of the month, the last week the the dog eats while I watch,lol

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
38. Phone $105??
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 03:23 PM
Mar 2020

Man...I have a phone with Verizon that is $30 per month. Don't need to pay for a "data" plan to surf the web when I pay for it AGAIN through my HSI with COX.

The Figment

(494 posts)
44. Phone bill
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 05:30 PM
Mar 2020

Verizon Unlimited, with hot spot 75
Phone payment 35,I brought a Galaxy Note 8 for 35 a month for 24 months.
I don't mind the phone bill as I don't have a computer or internet service and I use it for everything,phone, internet, tv,radio, ect

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
57. You should check out Tracfone
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:54 PM
Mar 2020

I have an apple iphone (couple versions old).
I use tracfone which can be as cheap as $20 for three months of service. You need to check out their website for details. They have many plans which are still very competitive, and no contract.

You can buy strictly data if you want as well. That would help with your use of the Internet.
And you can keep your phone number when you switch to them.

Just take a look, you might be able to save some money!


 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
52. I haven't really looked up to too many politicians in my life
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 05:10 AM
Mar 2020

In fact, the only other politician I did truly look up to was Barbara Jordan.

Add Elizabeth Warren to that very short list. I’v supported her candidacy for president since before she announced her candidacy for the Senate.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
40. Trump and the republicans aren't going to let go of THEIR treasury money to help those in need!
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 03:50 PM
Mar 2020

The greedy bast**ds! Really see it that way.

They will give it to the people who know their part in this vicious cycle.

Their part is to give back part of what they are given from our treasury to Trump and his grifters.

So the grifters stay in power to reinitialize the cycle all over again.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
53. Excellent move - any attempt to block it will raise hell with SS benefits and military retired
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 06:21 AM
Mar 2020

They would look real bad it they tried to mess with those, doomed if they try it, ram it home

MissMillie

(38,553 posts)
54. I wonder what happens to
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:37 AM
Mar 2020

the people who live in states and retired from state jobs, and because of the law they don't get SSI benefits.

My mom, my sis and my guy all get State pension instead of SS. There's some weird law that keeps them from collecting their SS, despite having worked in the private sector for YEARS before being employed by the State of Massachusetts.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
55. You'd should see all the MAGOTS on the Hill board claiming......
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:23 PM
Mar 2020

they want NO part of any Guberment give away--at least to the poor and SS people. If Trump wants to bail out Boeing,Oil companies and Cruise lines their 100% on board.

They want to know if they can opt out.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
56. Well, it's easier to inject money there than anywhere else.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:25 PM
Mar 2020

How do we make sure we get money to the working poor? What mechanism can be used?

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