White House, Senate reach historic $2 trillion stimulus deal amid growing coronavirus fears
Source: CNN
"Ladies and gentleman, we are done," White House legislative affairs director Eric Ueland said right before 1 a.m. after leaving Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's office following negotiations that have gone around the clock since last Friday. "We have a deal."
The full details have yet to be released. But over the last 24 hours, the elements of the proposal have come into sharper focus, with $250 billion set aside for direct payments to individuals and families, $350 billion in small business loans, $250 billion in unemployment insurance benefits and $500 billion in loans for distressed companies.
The stimulus bill also has a provision that would block President Donald Trump and his family, as well as other top government officials and members of Congress, from getting loans or investments from Treasury programs in the stimulus, according to Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's office.
The package, if it passes Congress, would be the most significant legislative action taken to address the rapidly intensifying coronavirus crisis, which is overwhelming hospitals and grinding much of the economy to a halt.
Schumer called it "the largest rescue package in American history," in remarks on the Senate floor in the early hours of Wednesday morning. "This is not a moment of celebration -- but of necessity," he said.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/politics/stimulus-senate-action-coronavirus/index.html
msongs
(67,395 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,416 posts)But from the preliminary details, it looks like a huge victory for the Democrats....and the country.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Let him brag his ass off. This POS package won't stimulate jack shit.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)it aint going to be enough to keep us afloat!!!!!! Seems that many of the GOP tin foil hat crowd may well have before this is all over , an understanding and appreciation for what FDR did!
duforsure
(11,885 posts)trump and the gop are now driving us into a depression if the early numbers are correct , they''ll regret not giving people enough direct cash , and they failed the American people when they needed help the most . This is going to backfire very badly on all who voted this through. Especially for trump and the gop. I think there will be a lot of unhappy people in this country and they will take it out on those that did nothing to prevent this from being so bad, and causing them financial ruins, and little help.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Baclava
(12,047 posts)Keth
(184 posts)but what if you changed banks since 2018 and 2019? Will my check, if I get one, go to my old account that has been closed? Is there a way to update your bank information? Just curious how this will work if you changed banks. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Better make sure it's been updated or it will be refused and "returned".
jayfish
(10,039 posts)who didn't file for 2018 and don't have a PIN to file electronically for 2019 or owe for 2019? ...asking for a friend.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)According to latest reports, thats 70 million people or 50% of Americans filing
If they dont have your latest info on file it could be delayed many weeks, according to MSNBC
gab13by13
(21,304 posts)that Trump's businesses won't get any of the bailout. Raw Story is reporting that his hotels and golf courses are losing money, even his golf course in Scotland is about to be shut down. If it is true that Trump and his spawn can't profit from this then Trump should be enraged today. I just don't see Mnuchin stiffing Trump. Someone tell me what I'm missing?
duforsure
(11,885 posts)And I'm with you , because trump will have Mnuchin funnel money somehow to trumps pocket from this stimulus payout.
I may be paranoid but that doesnt mean they wont figure out a way to screw us.
still_one
(92,136 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,582 posts)I'll bet he's already got his lawyers looking for loopholes in the bill that will divert a huge chunk of the money into his pocket.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)While foods and goods pricing jump up if you can get them has increased dramatically, so this is not nearly enough, and it won't work like they think it will at all. trump and the gop are stiffing the American people when they need help the most in a national emergency , and in a serious major health and financial crisis.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Happening in 5...4...3...
James48
(4,435 posts)Folks - read the story again
Thats an announcement of a deal
BETWEEN THE GOP SENATE and THE WHITE HOUSE.
It is NOT a deal that includes the HOUSE at all.
Its NOT a deal at all if they cant get 60 votes in the Senate, AND can pass with a majority in the House.
It could be simply fake news, intended to prop up Wall Street for a day.
Dont count your chickens before they hatch- lets wait to see if the Senate can pass it, AND IF THE HOUSE WILL AGREE.
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)about the possibility of unanimous consent -- although one member of House -- could force everyone returning to Congress.
It sounds like more than fake news to me.
Ponietz
(2,960 posts)[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/03/24/trump-coronavirus-congress-economic-stimulus/|
The $500 billion corporate slushiebucks were never in question, it seems.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)I wish it was FAKE. That amount for individuals and married couples in lower incomes should have been at least DOUBLE or the same amount paid now and again in six months.
Now reading that amount drops to a paltry $800 for those who need it the MOST,while married couples with no children who make a combined $3,800.00 per week will still qualify to get something....SERIOUSLY??
Some have said there will be two payments,I hope that's true but haven't read that anywhere.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)... too. Anyone following the put share options? (betting that certain stocks are going to dive)?
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)Shrump's throwing a giant party at one of his hotels a couple of weeks from now. Promises kept!
https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/03/24/president-trumps-dc-hotel-promises-a-huge-celebration-soon/
WhiteTara
(29,703 posts)while they celebrate and have a good time toasting their new found money. I hope they hug and kiss and dance slow dances all night long.
gab13by13
(21,304 posts)1. Is there a provision in the bill that creates an independent Inspector General? If there isn't then that means that Mnuchin/Trump have control over 1/2 trillion dollars.
2. Is there a provision in the bill that states that the administration doesn't have to disclose who got the money for 6 months?
If Trump has control of the money and doesn't have to show who got the money for 6 months, then he has 6 months to cook the books.
caber09
(666 posts)Yes it appears there is an IG and Congressional oversight...and no companies related to Trump, Pence, Congressional Leaders, Dept Heads etc are eligible to receive this money...It appears Dems got just about all they wanted...Pelosi wants unanimous consent, the Rs think they will object to that...thats speaks volumes
- $500 billion corporate relief program will include inspector general, oversight board
- The Treasury secretary will also be required to testify about transactions to provide stability to the credit markets, the senior official said
- the White House made a significant concession to Democrats demands, agreeing to allow enhanced scrutiny over the massive loan program that is a centerpiece of the Senates $2 trillion coronavirus economic package.
- Schumer secured a provision in the agreement that will prohibit businesses controlled by the President, Vice President, Members of Congress, and heads of Executive Departments from receiving loans or investments from Treasury programs
- A companion appropriations package ballooned as well, growing from a $46 billion White House proposal to more than $300 billion
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)not some $1200.00 dollars (twice) that isn't shit.............................
My mortgage payment stay's the same, my student debt stays the same, my rent payment stays the same, my car and credit card payment stays the same, and my health care stays the same and my drug cost stay the same................
caber09
(666 posts)Where was Bernie during all this wouldn't it be the exact type of bill for him to take a stand on and throw in his ideas to show what he can get done?
gab13by13
(21,304 posts)Bernie is doing the right thing by staying out of this and letting Joe have the stage.
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)gab13by13
(21,304 posts)I heard talk last night that you may have to file a return even if it's not required, but that was what I heard last night.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Total fucking BS while millionaires still keep their Trump tax cuts and Corporations are still getting their 14% Trump tax cut. $800 bucks not paid till into May won't do SHIT for the poor,SS people and low income/part time people.
IGNORED once again...................
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)recession, maybe depression.
Odds are those tax cuts will have to be repealed to pay for this.
As someone on SS, at least for now, my SS checks are still coming in. Im more worried about those suddenly unemployed and at the lowest end of SS.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)They could have that 14% cut back to 2-3% and STILL make BILLIONS and give those savings to those TRULY in need. Repealed for Corporations---ROFLOL,not unless Joe Biden would do it if elected President and Dems get the Senate.
It will NEVER happen under Trump and an Republican Senate. Those tax cuts could be for decades to Corporations.
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)tavernier
(12,377 posts)Turin_C3PO
(13,964 posts)made it into the final bill. Ill try and find out for sure.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)But BILLIONS for Corporations that don't need it after they ALREADY received a 14% tax cut--NO PROBLEM!!!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)package, then the $800 check for SS beneficiaries works out to $200 a month.
Maybe theyre waiting to see how many seniors will no longer need benefits before they start doing that. No, I wish I was being sarcastic, but in fact this just might be what some up there are thinking.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Dont know why, but they do
tavernier
(12,377 posts)Of course my friends are all intelligent!
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Nope..way to much spent already,inflationary,no can do,blah...blah...blah....
lark
(23,091 posts)Drumpf still gets to pick winners and losers and the losers will be the American people, and any and all Democrats, including Democratic states which he's trying to kill and any green companies. He also picks the oversight committee - fuck! Yeah Senate gets approval, but so fucking what, Russian Repugs stick together to fuck us up and Dems can't stop them at this time. There's rules that each contract has to be published, but drumpf follows no rules and I guarantee you this will not happen. He's supposed to get zero money from this but you know damn well he will personally profit a ton. It's a pure robbery to set up the theft of Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid which will come immediately after he steals the election. Public education, all labor laws including overtime and 40 hour work week, and all environmental laws will be cut and if hundreds of thousands of Americans die due to lifting Coronavirus restrictions too soon. He thinks he will only be kiling people in CA, NY & IL, and approves of that - but what happens when FL, TX or AZ cases explode, which they will? Just shows he doesn't even care about his "own" people in the red states, he just wants the bribes he's been offered, so he will absolutely kill us so churches can have their Easter Sunday.
Maxheader
(4,372 posts)I can see a need...just like Obama's tarp payments...and were there
any words about the corps repaying ??
Hugin
(33,120 posts)If I remember correctly, it was exactly opposite of what is being lovingly handed to the wanna-be dick-tator/psycopath-in-chief poseur President who's currently installed in office.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)gab13by13
(21,304 posts)Maxheader
(4,372 posts)because of bush....
Yavin4
(35,437 posts)I don't want to read how Kushner's net worth went up $500 billion.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Certainly blocks trump. Given trump's whole being is about grabbing, getting stealing - that block trump provision must feel like a hard kick in the nuts to trump.
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)in one of his hotels in a couple of weeks.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/03/24/president-trumps-dc-hotel-promises-a-huge-celebration-soon/
UncleNoel
(864 posts)Irrespective of tax returns or Tax ID?
old guy
(3,283 posts)If there is a devil here it will be in the details.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Really....ya think?? NOT ONE adult should be missed.