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Omaha Steve

(99,488 posts)
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:06 PM Apr 2020

OPEC, oil nations agree to nearly 10M barrel cut amid virus

Source: AP

By JON GAMBRELL and ELLEN KNICKMEYER

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — OPEC, Russia and other oil-producing nations on Sunday finalized an unprecedented production cut of nearly 10 million barrels, or a tenth of global supply, in hopes of boosting crashing prices amid the coronavirus pandemic and a price war, officials said.

“This could be the largest reduction in production from OPEC for perhaps a decade, maybe longer,” said U.S. Energy Secretary Dan Brouillette, who credited President Donald Trump’s personal involvement in getting dueling parties to the table and helping to end a price war between Saudi Arabia and Russia.

Oil prices have collapsed as the coronavirus and the COVID-19 illness it causes have largely halted global travel and slowed down other energy-chugging sectors such as manufacturing. It has devastated the oil industry in the U.S., which now pumps more crude than any other country.

But some producers have been reluctant to ease supply. The cartel and other nations on Sunday agreed to allow Mexico to cut only 100,000 barrels a month, a sticking point for an accord initially reached Friday after a marathon video conference between 23 nations. The nations together agreed to cut 9.7 million barrels a day throughout May and June.



In this photo released by Saudi Energy Ministry, Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman Al-Saud, Minister of Energy of Saudi Arabia, third right, chairs a virtual summit of the Group of 20 energy ministers at his office in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Friday, April 10, 2020, to coordinate a response to plummeting oil prices due to an oversupply in the market and a downturn in global demand due to the pandemic. (Saudi Energy Ministry via AP)


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OPEC, oil nations agree to nearly 10M barrel cut amid virus (Original Post) Omaha Steve Apr 2020 OP
Now tRump can sell his oil trading stocks he bought before announcing this deal. nt yaesu Apr 2020 #1
Not to mention he and the other Republicans in the House and Senate can explain to the voters cstanleytech Apr 2020 #2
This orangecrush Apr 2020 #11
I don't get why they're so hung up on prices. With historically low demand, supply must decrease elias7 Apr 2020 #3
Trickle down economics is a bitch, eh? docgee Apr 2020 #4
For Russia, the low prices are destroying their oil industry IronLionZion Apr 2020 #5
+1000 padah513 Apr 2020 #10
But, They Have To Cut Anyway ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #14
There are multiple factors at play here IronLionZion Apr 2020 #16
The Prime Factor Is Storage ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #17
Lack of storage will force them to cut production even more IronLionZion Apr 2020 #18
Agreed ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #20
Because the (Shale) Oil Industry in the US is Highly Leveraged modrepub Apr 2020 #15
10% reduction in production vs safeinOhio Apr 2020 #6
I was going to post the same thing, gab13by13 Apr 2020 #8
A day latter, we called it... safeinOhio Apr 2020 #21
First off, Miguelito Loveless Apr 2020 #7
Trump will give billions in bail out to the frackers. gab13by13 Apr 2020 #9
Environmentally speaking MosheFeingold Apr 2020 #12
Funny how collusion and price fixing are okey dokey in the Oil game........ Bengus81 Apr 2020 #13
Has OPEC made an agreement since the 80's they've managed to keep? Has Putin? marble falls Apr 2020 #19

cstanleytech

(26,222 posts)
2. Not to mention he and the other Republicans in the House and Senate can explain to the voters
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:46 PM
Apr 2020

why a Republican president and by extension the Republican Congressmen and Senators thought it would be a good idea that the voters be forced to pay higher gas prices when millions of them just lost their jobs.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
5. For Russia, the low prices are destroying their oil industry
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 11:41 PM
Apr 2020

It also hurts the US shale oil industry. Trump will do anything Putin wants.

padah513

(2,494 posts)
10. +1000
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 05:58 AM
Apr 2020

That's where the majority of the Russian economy comes from. That's why Putin was hell-bent on us not electing Madame Secretary Clinton as President. He knew she was going to make a hard charge towards the green after she got in and it would have killed the Russian oil industry. Might have dropped the price of oil to the level it is now and kept it there for good.

ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
14. But, They Have To Cut Anyway
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 09:12 AM
Apr 2020

Over the last 50 days, demand has fallen slightly more than 30 million bbl per day.
Because of the rapidity of things going down, the average excess production is 21+ million Bbl/Day.
So, they've pumped more than one billion barrels, they can't sell.
I'm not sure 10 million barrels will do much to prices, absent craziness on the part of commodity speculators.
They'll still be producing 20 million barrels each day for which there is no demand.
So, even at this lower rate, in just 10 days, there will be a billion & a quarter barrels of future inventory. At normal consumption, that's 13 days!
Storage capacity has to be close to max.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
16. There are multiple factors at play here
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 09:53 AM
Apr 2020

This would be a prime time for countries to buy low to fill their strategic national stockpiles, but available storage is likely full and we all have bigger more urgent problems to deal with.

Then there are market share issues, where Russia and Saudi Arabia don't want the US to have larger market share. They're playing a risky game that I'm not sure has any winners.

As economies open back up, demand will gradually increase again if maybe not as high as before. The big fuel consumers are shipping and airlines. Shipping will come back up before airlines.

ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
17. The Prime Factor Is Storage
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:31 AM
Apr 2020

They are running out of room, because they're overproducing by 30 million bbl/day.
Obama almost completely refilled the reserve just 4 years ago.
And, US producers are at all time efficiencies.
US, Canada, & Mexico are basically making North American demand, especially now. Our reserve is being topped off by internal production.
They're going to cut anyway, because storage is bulging.
This 10 million barrel cut, still means a 20 million barrel daily surplus.
The fact that things will go back to normal later, doesn't make those storage facilities bigger right now. Storage capacity is fixed.
It takes 4 months to build the size tank the crude makers need. In four months, they'd need 200 of them!

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
18. Lack of storage will force them to cut production even more
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:01 AM
Apr 2020

Trump has ordered Energy Dept to find more storage, but as you said it takes months to build. So I don't see how they're going to manage. China and other Asian countries might buy some as they've been opening up a bit.

They're running out of options fast

modrepub

(3,488 posts)
15. Because the (Shale) Oil Industry in the US is Highly Leveraged
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 09:46 AM
Apr 2020

Shale oil is billions in debt to stock holders, banks and bond holders. Cut the oil price by 50% and it halves your income but you still owe the same amount (in loan payments, stock dividends and bond payments). These companies no longer have the cash flow to make payments. Not making payments cascades through the financial system, mainly for banks that lent these companies billions and stock and bond holders (institutional investors/401k/pension funds) who expect payments.

The energy markets are constantly in this boom/bust cycle. Prices skyrocket, assets inflate, market capital gets attracted, oversupply takes place due to skewed investment, supply outstrips demand, prices collapse, bankruptcies ensue, supplies fall, demand outstrips supply, prices skyrocket,..... Imagine if we'd direct capital towards more sustainable energy model instead of this constant boom/bust cycle product...

gab13by13

(21,234 posts)
8. I was going to post the same thing,
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 04:58 AM
Apr 2020

but it does give them an excuse to raise gas prices. Shale oil needs to be at least 40 dollars a barrel to survive, unless Trump gives them bail out money. Isn't it China that does stuff like that?

Miguelito Loveless

(4,451 posts)
7. First off,
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:32 AM
Apr 2020

Russia will cheat. Second demand has fallen about 20%-25%, so a 10% cut will do nothing. Third, frackers are screwed with pretty much any price below $55-$60/bbl.

Bengus81

(6,927 posts)
13. Funny how collusion and price fixing are okey dokey in the Oil game........
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 08:52 AM
Apr 2020

Let a load of other businesses do the same and their faced with price fixing and RICO violations.

Could Kroger,Walmart,Safeway and other huge chains meet in some room and order a slow down in buying toilet paper and fix a base price of $50 for a package of four rolls?

marble falls

(56,996 posts)
19. Has OPEC made an agreement since the 80's they've managed to keep? Has Putin?
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:19 AM
Apr 2020

If they cut production, someone else will fill the gap.

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