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Suburban Warrior

(405 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 09:38 PM Apr 2020

After Anonymous Tip, 17 Bodies Found at Nursing Home Hit by Virus

Source: New York Times

The call for body bags came late Saturday.

By Monday, the police in a small New Jersey town had gotten an anonymous tip about a body being stored in a shed outside one of the state’s largest nursing homes.

When the police arrived, the corpse had been removed from the shed, but they discovered 17 bodies piled inside the nursing home in a small morgue intended to hold no more than four people.

“They were just overwhelmed by the amount of people who were expiring,” said Eric C. Danielson, the police chief in Andover, a small township in Sussex County, the state’s northernmost count

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/nyregion/coronavirus-nj-andover-nursing-home-deaths.html

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After Anonymous Tip, 17 Bodies Found at Nursing Home Hit by Virus (Original Post) Suburban Warrior Apr 2020 OP
Thanks, Donald Blue Owl Apr 2020 #1
OMG! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #2
We will see a lot of this. The FOX theme that deaths are being OVERCOUNTED is bullshit. Midnight Writer Apr 2020 #3
Trump/Fox think that low numbers are a good thing for them. keithbvadu2 Apr 2020 #5
And Reaperublicons are claiming body counts are being inflated. Are they the Body Bag movement? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #4
Jeebus. How awful. fleur-de-lisa Apr 2020 #6
This country has never known what to do with the elderly. BarbD Apr 2020 #7
I'd be willing to bet SheltieLover Apr 2020 #8
Hadn't thought of that. TomSlick Apr 2020 #9
Boom! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #10
And what do you want to bet many/most/all of the "residents" of the assisted living/nursing homes not_the_one Apr 2020 #14
Hadn't thought of that piece SheltieLover Apr 2020 #20
In PA they do Kaiserguy Apr 2020 #23
OMG!!! LovingA2andMI Apr 2020 #11
Kick dalton99a Apr 2020 #12
Jesus how horrifying. I heard this on Rachel tonight. ancianita Apr 2020 #13
This is some sick fucking shit Ahpook Apr 2020 #15
It's like America just threw them in the trash. ffr Apr 2020 #16
Nobody noticed 17 people missing? Not even their families? So sad. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #17
With facilities on lockdown who would know? RhodeIslandOne Apr 2020 #19
A lockdown does not prevent family calls does it? SunSeeker Apr 2020 #21
I would think so. From my genealogy research. LiberalFighter Apr 2020 #27
We've had a number of deaths at nursing homes Historic NY Apr 2020 #18
America is breaking at the seams in an Orange Hair Delusion bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #22
Devaluing life is the RW way Kaiserguy Apr 2020 #24
Nearly 50% of PA's COVID-19 deaths have been in elder-care facilities BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 #25
If only we had some type of national leader who could muster a unified response to the virus. johnthewoodworker Apr 2020 #26
How sad Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 #28

keithbvadu2

(36,669 posts)
5. Trump/Fox think that low numbers are a good thing for them.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 09:43 PM
Apr 2020

Trump/Fox think that low numbers are a good thing for them.

BarbD

(1,192 posts)
7. This country has never known what to do with the elderly.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 09:48 PM
Apr 2020

Many nursing homes are just warehouses for people waiting to die. Their dream is to go peacefully in their sleep. It is tragic that the end of their lives is a nightmare.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
8. I'd be willing to bet
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 09:56 PM
Apr 2020

most assisted living / nursing homes could be owned by repukes & most likely repuke lawmakers. States & fed are hiding stats & names of facilities like crazy.

Some states won't even release the names of facilities infected!

Can you imagine what families must be going through to hear about a facility having infected residents but they won't name it, so the families aren't sure if it is where mom, dad, grandma, whomever is. 😳🤬

Def needs to be investigated.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
14. And what do you want to bet many/most/all of the "residents" of the assisted living/nursing homes
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 11:17 PM
Apr 2020

are ALSO receiving social security payments to cover the home's costs, through automatic disbursements?

The longer SS doesn't know they are dead, the longer they continue to receive the payments.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
20. Hadn't thought of that piece
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 01:59 AM
Apr 2020

But you are right! Likely depends upon state, but I had a friend in IL whose aunt & uncle both needed to go into nursing home & they had to turn over about $400k in liquid assets & their home, as well as their SS. This was, I believe, a county nursing home. The private ones they looked into would have been something like $20K/month per person, some years ago.

I wonder if the private ones take all assets that way? Maybe not because they are ridiculously expensive.

But I hope someone is looking into this issue you have raised!

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
23. In PA they do
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:33 AM
Apr 2020

and if you transferred ownership of your home to a family member you had better do it long before you go into a home since they can take it if it hasn't been a long enough time period. That was we had run into with my mother. Thankfully she had transferred her home over several years before because of that. As far as I know that law hasn't been changed.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
15. This is some sick fucking shit
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 11:27 PM
Apr 2020

I'd be on a rampage if one of my loved ones were treated like this.

This is mental!

ffr

(22,665 posts)
16. It's like America just threw them in the trash.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 12:11 AM
Apr 2020

Not one rePutican will speak out about the American genocide.

SunSeeker

(51,518 posts)
21. A lockdown does not prevent family calls does it?
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:24 AM
Apr 2020

What put my mom in a nursing home was a massive stroke. She could no longer talk, but she could hear and understand me and nod or shake her head in response. So, because I couldn't talk to her over the phone, I went to see her every day.

I must admit, I never saw other visitors there for the other residents, most of whom could talk, and ofter spoke to me. It was heartbreaking. If my mom could have talked, I would have called her all the time.

Aren't there state laws requiring nursing homes to notify the next of kin when a patient dies? They called me in the early morning hours as soon as my mom passed away.

LiberalFighter

(50,789 posts)
27. I would think so. From my genealogy research.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:31 PM
Apr 2020

I see a lot of death records and I'm pretty sure that in every case it was a close relative listed as the informant. In a few cases, I believe the relative wasn't even living in the same state.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
18. We've had a number of deaths at nursing homes
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 01:15 AM
Apr 2020

assisted living here in Orange Co. which abuts Sussex Co. Nj, started in a facility in my town and moved to the County facility. I'm just shocked that they left the bodies there. They could have contacted NY or even Pa. we all border together out there for assistance. They would have had the help the needed.

bucolic_frolic

(43,062 posts)
22. America is breaking at the seams in an Orange Hair Delusion
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:27 AM
Apr 2020

Bodies are not counted. Dictatorship is patriotism. Lockdowns to protect public health are destroying MAGAt freedoms.

But have you also noticed? Inflation is not happening. Prosperity is more important than life.

And in the products we buy - a $200 2016 computer is far faster and cheaper than a $299 one now. And leather. Remember genuine leather? That's now called full grain cowhide. "Leather" could be that, or more often it's paper-thin shaved leather glued to polyester fabric and called, simply leather. No law prevents that. Thin leather dries and cracks after 3-5 years. So wear them now, while you can.

What I'm saying is we're under a grand delusion. Products are being devalued - the good stuff stripped from them - even as they raise prices. And they tell us everything is fine. It's probably too technical for most consumers to notice. But do your research, spend carefully, get good value for your dollars.

A society shoveling bodies from nursing homes in the dead of night into mass storage is devaluing life itself.

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
24. Devaluing life is the RW way
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:36 AM
Apr 2020

Look at the protest now going on to try and force Blue states to open. Human life has no real meaning to Republicans or to RW Christians. Its all about money and power.

BumRushDaShow

(128,515 posts)
25. Nearly 50% of PA's COVID-19 deaths have been in elder-care facilities
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:47 AM
Apr 2020

So I expect more and more smaller "private" facilities have dire circumstances going on that are not being reported and/or have not been discovered.

Coronavirus hits nearly 300 Pa. elder-care centers, accounting for half the state’s deaths

by Anthony R. Wood, Anna Orso and Pranshu Verma, Updated: April 15, 2020- 10:21 PM

The coronavirus has crept into nearly 300 elder-care facilities in Pennsylvania, where it has been responsible for half of all virus-related deaths in the state, officials said Wednesday, and it has struck the Philadelphia region with particular ferocity. The statistics were released on a day when Pennsylvania instituted an order requiring all businesses and in-person customers to wear protective masks, and New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy suggested that the mask look is likely to continue as a “new normal” takes hold after the pandemic subsides.

In New Jersey, which said the virus has been detected in 95% of its elder facilities, the total death toll climbed to 3,156 with Wednesday’s daily report, including 19 reported in Burlington County, and 71,030 positive cases were reported. Pennsylvania has logged 647 deaths and more than 26,000 total cases.

The rate of increase in new cases has flattened substantially in both states and nationwide. But the Pennsylvania data from the elder-care facilities, mined in what Health Secretary Rachel Levine called a “deep dive,” were disconcerting. In 297 of those centers, 3,316 coronavirus cases were verified. In Philadelphia, 34 coronavirus-related deaths were reported; 60 in Montgomery County, and 41 in Delaware County.

Nursing-Home Deaths in Pennsylvania

The state Department of Health reported that 324 people have died in nursing homes from the coronavirus. Montgomery County has had 60 deaths, according to state data, the most of any county. Nearly 300 nursing homes have at least one case, with more than 3,300 cases total.

https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-deaths-philadelphia-long-term-car-nursing-homes-stimulus-masks-20200415.html
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