US alerted Israel, NATO to disease outbreak in China in November -- report
Source: Times of Israel
US intelligence agencies alerted Israel to the coronavirus outbreak in China already in November, Israeli television reported Thursday.
According to Channel 12 news, the US intelligence community became aware of the emerging disease in Wuhan in the second week of that month and drew up a classified document.
Information on the disease outbreak was not in the public domain at that stage and was known only apparently to the Chinese government.
US intelligence informed the Trump administration, which did not deem it of interest, but the report said the Americans also decided to update two allies with the classified document: NATO and Israel, specifically the IDF.
Read more: https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-alerted-israel-nato-to-disease-outbreak-in-china-in-november-report/
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)November? November?!!!!
Guess don was to busy with golf.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)I have been saying this all along.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)neohippie
(1,142 posts)Two years ago... that's when our diplomats in China reported about safety and security issues in the Wuhan bio-labs and that's the same time when this mis-adminisration cut the CDC staff in China by 2/3rds that could have addressed those concerns.
That turns out to also be the same time that the National Security council cut the Global Bio-defense Response Team
There was plenty of warning
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)If you know something BAD is coming, and you do nothing, the real question is WHY?
neohippie
(1,142 posts)I really think this is incompetence both by the Chinese bio-labs and by this administration believing that government is bloated and does no good.
But that is a pretty optimistic point of view, because it's quite the coincidence that China was struggling to contain the Hong Kong protests at the time this all went down.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)It's never ending. I believe it comes from Putin. Maybe there's a language barrier when they talk at 3 AM while Trump's on the toilet.
Cha
(297,154 posts)here we are in April 2020.
They can LIE all they want but Every LIE is Exposed.. they're Not going to get away with it.
denem
(11,045 posts)December 27, was the first date the Chinese CDC had any hard evidence they were dealing with a novel virus. The coronavirus itself was not sequenced until January 2.
majdrfrtim
(317 posts)(or whatever its technical name was), *they* would have immediately taken notice of this "pnemonia cluster" IN NOVEMBER -- especially given China's dissembling public response and authoritarian internal response to it. So it doesn't matter that it was PNEUMONIA in November, Trump's minions had had the capability to respond appropriately and had already gone out of their way NOT to be prepared to respond to ANY novel infectious agent.
They've continued that inability to respond by going out of their way to guarantee that we cannot (possibly ever, now) know where the virus even *is* in our country (no robust, coordinated testing program), or where it's going next (no contract tracing and isolation of asymptomatic carriers).
Had the "pandemic response team" been allowed to do its job, they'd almost certainly have been ready with an all-of-government proactive response on 27DEC19 to a "pneumonia cluster" that turned out to be a novel coronavirus!
That was their job, after all.
denem
(11,045 posts)SheltieLover
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SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)That is why it was noticed and flagged by our intelligence services.
Botany
(70,490 posts)Trump told NATO & Israel in Nov. 2019 but did nothing here until mid March 20202?
Lock him up.
It was OBAMA and HER EMAILS!!!!!!!!!!!
TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)This is the full WHO outbreak list for the past months, though not all of these are of international concern...
16 April 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
10 April 2020: Yellow fever Republic of South Sudan
9 April 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
8 April 2020: Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
2 April 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
26 March 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
19 March 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
12 March 2020: Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) Qatar
12 March 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
10 March 2020: Dengue fever French Territories of the Americas French Guiana, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Saint-Martin, and Saint-Barthélemy
5 March 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
4 March 2020: Measles - Central African Republic
27 February 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
24 February 2020: Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
22 February 2020: Dengue fever Chile
21 February 2020: Yellow fever Uganda
20 February 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
20 February 2020: Lassa Fever Nigeria
13 February 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
6 February 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
31 January 2020: Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) United Arab Emirates
30 January 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
23 January 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
21 January 2020: Novel Coronavirus Republic of Korea (ex-China)
17 January 2020: Novel Coronavirus Japan (ex-China)
16 January 2020: Novel Coronavirus Japan (ex-China)
16 January 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
14 January 2020: Novel Coronavirus Thailand (ex-China)
12 January 2020: Novel Coronavirus China
10 January 2020: Measles occupied Palestinian territory
9 January 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
8 January 2020: Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) The United Arab Emirates
5 January 2020: Pneumonia of unknown cause China
2 January 2020: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
26 December 2019: Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) Qatar
19 December 2019: Yellow fever Mali
19 December 2019: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
18 December 2019: Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
17 December 2019: Yellow fever Nigeria
15 December 2019: Measles Pacific Island Countries and Areas
13 December 2019: Dengue fever Afghanistan
12 December 2019Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
5 December 2019: Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
5 December 2019: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
29 November 2019Dengue fever Spain
29 November 2019: Circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus type 2 African Region
28 November 2019: Lassa Fever The Netherlands (ex Sierra Leone)
28 November 2019: Circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus type 2 Pakistan
28 November 2019: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
27 November 2019: Measles Global situation
22 November 2019: Dengue fever Republic of the Sudan
21 November 2019: Yellow fever Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela
21 November 2019: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
19 November 2019: Dengue fever Pakistan
14 November 2019Rift Valley Fever Republic of the Sudan
14 November 2019: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
7 November 2019: Ebola virus disease Democratic Republic of the Congo
1 November 2019: Zika virus disease France
...
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sinkingfeeling
(51,445 posts)GreydeeThos
(958 posts)Trump told the Israelis (and probably other governments as well). Why did he choose to keep it secret and why did the Chinese also keep it secret? Is Trump working some kind of deal with the Chinese?
Maxheader
(4,372 posts)In the news. It seems. This country or that,..this group or that...Knew way back
about corona. But their choices of who they informed..?
IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)says the people who sold their stocks high while telling everyone to not worry it's all under control.
James48
(4,435 posts)which means we alerted 30 nations.
Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom and the United States. The other member countries are: Greece and Turkey (1952), Germany (1955), Spain (1982), the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland (1999), Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia (2004), Albania and Croatia (2009), Montenegro (2017) and North Macedonia (2020).
too bad we didn't listen to ourselves.
Igel
(35,300 posts)Because right now, it looks like 32 nations didn't actually listen.
I suspect that this report won't be confirmed, but also won't need to be.
If it's linked to the ABC story, then in late November the report was written, in late November it was approved for distribution, in late November it was transmitted to NATO, and even later in November it was discussed. And in once version, it underwent a few weeks of vetting before being briefed widely in ... late November It was a bumper crop of late November last year.
When the first case to be identified according to what we know from China was dated December. That said, apparently satellite images showed enough cases and disruption to be visible from space. Even though doctors didn't know about it.
It's expected that it was circulating in November, but even in December it wasn't a huge outbreak.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)Next targeting the deep state of our intelligence community, I suppose.
RVN VET71
(2,690 posts)Bush, as I recall, told the CIA agent who handed it to him "OK, you've covered your ass," and proceeded to do nothing. Same with Trump, apparently, regarding this pandemic.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Bayard
(22,061 posts)Because it did not pertain to him personally.
Yavin4
(35,437 posts)When a political party does not believe in government or governing and that's treated as normal, the probability of negative catclysmic events occuring rises.