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yaesu

(8,020 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 01:44 PM Apr 2020

Louisiana pastor who defied covid-19 orders is asking people to give their stimulus money to church

Source: CNN

A Louisiana pastor who defied state orders and repeatedly held large church services during the coronavirus pandemic is now asking congregants to donate their stimulus checks to the church.

Pastor Tony Spell launched what he called the #PastorSpellStimulusChallenge, asking Americans to donate their government stimulus checks to evangelists, missionaries and music ministers who he said have not received offerings in over a month. He said he, his wife and his son have all donated their checks, and added that those without a church can donate through his website.

Asked by CNN's Victor Blackwell on Sunday why he is asking "people who you know don't have much" to hand over their $1,200 stimulus checks, Spell said it was because some evangelists and missionaries don't receive stimulus money.
"We are challenging you, if you can, give your stimulus package to evangelists and missionaries, who do not get the stimulus package," he told CNN Sunday.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/19/us/louisiana-pastor-coronavirus-stimulus-checks-trnd/index.html

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Louisiana pastor who defied covid-19 orders is asking people to give their stimulus money to church (Original Post) yaesu Apr 2020 OP
Low life snake Thomas Hurt Apr 2020 #1
I feel sorry for the innocent people who are getting bilked by the crook. olegramps Apr 2020 #18
Get a real job asshole (referring to the snake, not you TH). lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #30
But...but... that's gawdless soshilizim! muntrv Apr 2020 #2
They are so transparently greedy. Jamastiene Apr 2020 #3
Relief money. No possibility of stimulation now. marybourg Apr 2020 #4
This is disgusting! Pisces Apr 2020 #5
Parasite. dalton99a Apr 2020 #6
Parasite Rebl2 Apr 2020 #24
... a fool ... something ... money ... something ... soon parting ... (nt) mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #7
Hey, it's a living, supported by tax laws and good folks. Baked Potato Apr 2020 #8
that con artist loves that socialist money he preaches against every Sunday, there religious yaesu Apr 2020 #9
That jesus just doesn't know how to manage money. dbonds Apr 2020 #10
Has these fucking clowns ever read the goddamn New Testament? 47of74 Apr 2020 #11
Those in that religion... Newest Reality Apr 2020 #12
Send him a moldy loaf and a smelly fish. ret5hd Apr 2020 #13
And why again aren't "churches" taxed again............ turbinetree Apr 2020 #14
I'm sure we all predicted this would happen. I mean, of course they would do this. Sapient Donkey Apr 2020 #15
Of course he is. DemoTex Apr 2020 #16
Be sure to endorse the checks over to Pasto Spell, and not send them directly LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2020 #17
He and his wife each got a check. Problem solved. keithbvadu2 Apr 2020 #19
I thought god would provide.... SergeStorms Apr 2020 #20
Betty Bowers has a word for him Ellen Forradalom Apr 2020 #21
In it for the money.... paleotn Apr 2020 #22
Why, yes Corgigal Apr 2020 #23
I'd be far more inclined to donate the money directly to the evangelists, missionaries, and TexasTowelie Apr 2020 #25
Isn't the government treating some church activities/programs as small businesses tikka Apr 2020 #26
Kickin' with disgust Faux pas Apr 2020 #27
support me in the manner to which Marthe48 Apr 2020 #28
Grifters gotta grift n/t KatyMan Apr 2020 #29
There's a special place in Hell for people like him ironflange Apr 2020 #31
yep, but those idiots & there followers create hell on earth for non cult members like us. nt yaesu Apr 2020 #32
I wish there were Yeehah Apr 2020 #33

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
18. I feel sorry for the innocent people who are getting bilked by the crook.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 03:59 PM
Apr 2020

I am not anti-religion, however, I really despise the charlatans who dominate it. It is unfortunate that they are allowed to exploit the less discerning who are basically good hearted people who truly have real compassion for the less fortunate and often can ill afford to be played for suckers by these unscrupulous scum. It runs the entire spectrum from sexual exploitation of the innocent to bilking of the aged. I watched this particular man of the cloth on TV and I was truly amazed just how much he looked the part of the typical confidence man with his slicked back pompadour oily hair and obviously phony act of compassion.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
30. Get a real job asshole (referring to the snake, not you TH).
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 11:13 AM
Apr 2020

Bilking rubes is unsustainable when the rubes are killed by your greed.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
3. They are so transparently greedy.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 01:47 PM
Apr 2020

I'm surprised they will get as much as they will. They always do. So, they will get a lot.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
9. that con artist loves that socialist money he preaches against every Sunday, there religious
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 01:57 PM
Apr 2020

terrorists are just as evil as their fascist puppets.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
11. Has these fucking clowns ever read the goddamn New Testament?
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 02:02 PM
Apr 2020

Especially verses like these?

“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them." (Matthew 7:15)


Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. (Matthew 23:1-4)


Plenty of other parts of the NT too that call out the bad behavior of Jeeeeeeezus / Trump golden calf worshiper types.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
12. Those in that religion...
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 02:04 PM
Apr 2020

Who don't even bother to check their "operating manual" are really following something rather heretical in itself, just as the Evangelical fundamentalists tend to do more and more. They seem to be the P.T. Barnum faction of Xtianity.

I am not anti-religious, (there are many, many kinds, not just Western Abrahamic) but, I have seen that fundamentalism in general is the real problem and that leads to all kinds of strange bedfellows for the confused from Jihads to a Corporate/military Christ.

From there own "good book". One problem is that gullibility leads to putting faith into facades and I doubt then that it occurs to them that they are commanded to be vigilant and test for deceivers among them. That is especially a problem with modern, American McReligion that is so fused to consumerism and spiritual egotism, xenophobia and the rest.

The Bible has many indictments towards those kinds of people, so it is not like the big bucks, carnival barking televangelist, et al, was not "prophesied". I also find it disappointing that they are not being called out more often by the Xtians who understand this, but then, those fundamentalists can be very vengeful, cruel and vociferous since they also align with political agendas, etc. And that agenda and its theocratic leanings, (which is fundamentally anti-democratic) is what is most worrying.

Their are at least thirty or more of warnings like this:

Matthew 7:15-16

“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?"


Jeremiah 14:14

Then the Lord said to me, “The prophets are prophesying falsehood in My name. I have neither sent them nor commanded them nor spoken to them; they are prophesying to you a false vision, divination, futility and the deception of their own minds.


Ezekiel 22:28

Her prophets have smeared whitewash for them, seeing false visions and divining lies for them, saying, ‘Thus says the Lord God,’ when the Lord has not spoken.


1 Kings 22:21-22

Then a spirit came forward and stood before the Lord and said, ‘I will entice him.’ The Lord said to him, ‘How?’ And he said, ‘I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ Then He said, ‘You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.’


2 Corinthians 11:13-15

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.



And so forth...

turbinetree

(24,685 posts)
14. And why again aren't "churches" taxed again............
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 02:11 PM
Apr 2020

and these idiots that give this, cannot write this off on there individual filed income tax......................not anymore.............and the list of some of these evangelists and others, lets go to the .................


SHOW BIZ SHEET................get it............. SHOW BIZ SHEET............

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/net-worth-richest-pastors-will-blow-your-mind.html/


pretty good racket..................



17. Be sure to endorse the checks over to Pasto Spell, and not send them directly
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 02:59 PM
Apr 2020

to those in need. God will tell Pastor Spell how to disburse the funds equitably.

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
20. I thought god would provide....
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 05:02 PM
Apr 2020

the right's demi-god, Donald Trump, gave them $1200 each of his own money, but that must have been squandered on food, bills, and mortgages. The nerve! Maybe demi-god Donald will give them another check of his own money soon, and they can donate that one to the poor religious leaders who god has forsaken.

I realize it's not Trump's money, but he demanded that his name be put on the checks. That's how much of an asshole he is.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
22. In it for the money....
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 06:29 PM
Apr 2020

or in it for the power over others. Or both! Why some Christians can't get this through their thick skulls, I'll never know. So much for apostolic poverty.

TexasTowelie

(111,972 posts)
25. I'd be far more inclined to donate the money directly to the evangelists, missionaries, and
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:55 PM
Apr 2020

music ministers that have stated they are not getting paid than to donate it to the church so the people who are still receiving their paychecks can also get a cut.

tikka

(762 posts)
26. Isn't the government treating some church activities/programs as small businesses
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 08:01 AM
Apr 2020

and thus eligible for stimulus money?

Marthe48

(16,908 posts)
28. support me in the manner to which
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:29 AM
Apr 2020

I'm accustomed.

When you die, put the burden on your family's shoulders

Yeehah

(4,568 posts)
33. I wish there were
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:02 PM
Apr 2020

But we should really stop waiting for fairies and demons to do the work that we should be doing ourselves - which is stop these plundering con-people from predating stupid and vulnerable people.

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