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riversedge

(70,077 posts)
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 08:47 AM Apr 2020

Trump tries to reassure seniors he won't let them die after polling shows he's hemorrhaging their su

Source: raw story



Trump tries to reassure seniors he won’t let them die after polling shows he’s hemorrhaging their support

Published 10 mins ago on April 22, 2020

Recent polls have shown that President Donald Trump is actually losing support among older voters amid his chaotic handling of the coronavirus pandemic, and now the president is trying to reassure them that he won’t let them die.

In a Wednesday morning tweet, the president promoted the reopening of the American economy while also taking care to note that older Americans will need special protections.
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National Journal columnist Josh Kraushaar this week examined polling data showing that former Vice President Joe Biden is now actually leading Trump among voters aged 65 and older.


“The latest Morning Consult poll found that 65-and-older voters prioritized defeating the coronavirus over healing the economy by nearly a 6-to-1 ratio,” he wrote. “And over the past month, they’ve become the group most disenchanted with Trump’s handling of the crisis. In mid-March, seniors were more supportive of Trump than any other age group (plus-19 net approval). Now, their net approval of the president has dropped 20 points and is lower than any age group outside of the youngest.”..............


Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-tries-to-reassure-seniors-he-wont-let-them-die-after-polling-shows-hes-hemorrhaging-their-support/



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Trump tries to reassure seniors he won't let them die after polling shows he's hemorrhaging their su (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2020 OP
The republicans have been openly saying that we should kill grandma to save the stock market. Renew Deal Apr 2020 #1
That poll is eye-popping. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #13
Old people, we "wonderful" baby boomers, are of course, his strongest base. NNadir Apr 2020 #2
Oh Hell No! RobinA Apr 2020 #11
Polls show that his strongest support has been among people over 65. NNadir Apr 2020 #20
Well said and honestly spoken. Dan Apr 2020 #23
Heh. That train has left the station Trumpy yellowcanine Apr 2020 #3
Gee Donny by Friday we will have 50,000 dead and 1,000,000 cases of C-19 Botany Apr 2020 #4
1. he's already been letting them die barbtries Apr 2020 #5
There are seniors that still drink . . . Iliyah Apr 2020 #6
They will die first. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #14
How can "re-opening the Economy" help senior citizens in nursing homes? no_hypocrisy Apr 2020 #7
But he WILL let them die. He HAS let them die. nt neeksgeek Apr 2020 #8
Seniors know the Full Darwin when they see it bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #9
He HAS to whine and complain about his own sorry ass. Croney Apr 2020 #10
He meant "special treatment" denem Apr 2020 #18
Good god is that what he meant thecrow Apr 2020 #24
I see a weak leader talking about older Americans that flip burgers, Deb Apr 2020 #12
Except of course the ones who have already died samsingh Apr 2020 #15
When Donny says he "loves" you, be VERY worried. Grokenstein Apr 2020 #16
Blessed are the weak, for they shall be sacrificed for corporate profits! Sloumeau Apr 2020 #17
The Death Party earthside Apr 2020 #19
So you have no tests, you dropped the ball on tests, your hoarding tests to make a buck off them.... turbinetree Apr 2020 #21
He only has to keep them alive till November Bayard Apr 2020 #22

Renew Deal

(81,844 posts)
1. The republicans have been openly saying that we should kill grandma to save the stock market.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 08:54 AM
Apr 2020

I guess grandma noticed. We’ll see if she makes it to November.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. That poll is eye-popping.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:16 AM
Apr 2020

I hope it is borne out by others. Once somebody believes you are deliberately endangering their life, there is no turning back.

NNadir

(33,468 posts)
2. Old people, we "wonderful" baby boomers, are of course, his strongest base.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 08:54 AM
Apr 2020

Either way, if they change their minds and vote Biden, or if we die off more quickly, he loses votes.

Trump, one hopes, is the last disasters our generation leaves behind.

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
11. Oh Hell No!
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:06 AM
Apr 2020

Trump can't be blamed on any generation. The Trump supporters I saw manning the barracks for opening up the country were most definitely NOT Boomers. And let's not forget, as much as he would like us to, he did lose the popular vote.

NNadir

(33,468 posts)
20. Polls show that his strongest support has been among people over 65.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 10:06 AM
Apr 2020

That's a fact, shown consistently by polls.

Facts matter.

I personally know more Trump supporters among people my age than people my son's age. I know, as a rough estimate, the political opinions of close to 30 or 40 of my son's acquaintances. To my knowledge there are 3 who supported Trump and one of those very reluctantly.

Now there is a filter here, because my sons' peers are artists and scientists, my claim is apocryphal as opposed to a systematic poll. Irrespective of my informal accounting, clearly there are redneck kids.

Protests against quarantine and the people participating in them is also a filter, big time. Old people are frightened, and they are learning that, for all their carrying on over the last half a century that they are suddenly regarded as expendable, useless in fact, by the very people they supported. So it is a shocking revelation to them. It's not that they didn't support Trump, but rather that they have changed or are changing their minds, as evidenced by the OP.

My generation has been a disaster for humanity. That is very clear. We always want to place blame on the young, but we screwed the world up. Consistently we showed callous disregard for everything except money. We consumed most of the world's resources and turned them in to difficult to clean up wastes. We started and carried out oil wars. We partied like it was the end of the world, and in fact, there is a world ending as a result of our party and all that's left for future generations is to do whatever they can to sweep up the mess.

Like every generation, there are subsets of people with a lack of integrity and some of high integrity. This is true of the young people as well, but all I am stating that in terms of ratios, the ratio of people with high integrity to those with low integrity is higher in these young people than it is in my generation. Brady Sluter and the like, the focus on whom our media has arbitrarily chosen to represent young people, do not represent the young people, nor do the assholes marching in the streets calling for the spreading of disease. These people get attention because it sells newspapers, internet advertising, and TV "journalism" but their demographic is not the core that elevated this ignorant, senile, narcissistic, racist to live in the house where Abraham Lincoln, FDR, Harry Truman and Barack Obama lived. We, the members of my generation, are the core.

As I often say, history will not forgive us, nor should it.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
4. Gee Donny by Friday we will have 50,000 dead and 1,000,000 cases of C-19
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 08:54 AM
Apr 2020

(seniors) Their lives will be better than ever...WE LOVE YOU ALL! D. Trump 4/22/20 7:53 AM

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
5. 1. he's already been letting them die
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 08:55 AM
Apr 2020

2. Covid-19 now leading cause of death in US
3. Young people are dying from this disease
4. Testing

The failure is a done thing.

no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
7. How can "re-opening the Economy" help senior citizens in nursing homes?
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 08:57 AM
Apr 2020

Their aides may or may not be CV-19 positive. A lot of the aides work in more than one facility and may be transporting the Virus with them. A lot of aides have taken ill and the nursing homes are not only short-staffed but the remaining staff are walking Petri dishes. The seniors are sitting ducks.

So if you're a senior in a nursing home in Georgia, re-opening tattoo parlors, barber shops, and gyms are going to make things "safe" for you? Color me dubious.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
9. Seniors know the Full Darwin when they see it
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:01 AM
Apr 2020

Trump's got problems with older MAGAts who can still think for themselves

Croney

(4,656 posts)
10. He HAS to whine and complain about his own sorry ass.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:04 AM
Apr 2020

"Special care is, and always will be, given to our beloved seniors (except me!)"

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
18. He meant "special treatment"
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:25 AM
Apr 2020

Sonderbehandlung - (special treatment) is known as a euphemism for mass murder used by the Nazis. It first came to prominence during Action T4 1939-41, where SS doctors killed mentally ill and disabled patients.

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
24. Good god is that what he meant
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 01:19 PM
Apr 2020

by “except me” in his tweet?
I know he says things in his tweets that are true but disguised.

With age, wisdom
Is not a trait he has ever gotten since maybe 2 years old.

Deb

(3,742 posts)
12. I see a weak leader talking about older Americans that flip burgers,
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:10 AM
Apr 2020

work at Walmart and the local gas station. Proving one again he's the GOP's impeached loser.

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
17. Blessed are the weak, for they shall be sacrificed for corporate profits!
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:20 AM
Apr 2020

Nancy Pelosi says Trump is a weak leader. Any sacrificing of the weak should start with Trump!

earthside

(6,960 posts)
19. The Death Party
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:58 AM
Apr 2020

It is a simple matter of messaging.

" ... as a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren?"

Texas Lt. Gov. and Trump Follower Dan Patrick
March 23, 2020

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
21. So you have no tests, you dropped the ball on tests, your hoarding tests to make a buck off them....
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 10:12 AM
Apr 2020

you are hoarding PPE's , gloves and masks and denying states to have them unless they are cronies.

So while I am in a nursing home my chance of dying are well pretty good since you failed to do the above because we all are not worthy, and to top it all off your right wing death panel governors are basically saying that I and millions of other should die, because I am on Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid and this is the best way to cull the masses............because after all we fought in wars to keep you safe and you ran, but that was or is not good enough, we made money for corporations so that they could fuck over everyone in the end because its our fault, and that is and was still not good enough.

And so now, you and others are looking for deflection for your incompetent crimes wishing that since there are not enough modern day Vanderbilts or Rockefeller's or Mnuchins, Walton's, Devos, Ross's, Barr, Kavanaughs, Gorsuch, Roberts, Thomas's, Alito, Kemps, Ricketts, #Moscow Mitch's, Thunes, Barrasso, Right to Life, Judicial Watch, and other tin pot right wing judges sitting on the bench that are not qualified, Koch Foundations, Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, NRA, Fox News, Sinclair Broadcasting, and idiots standing on the street corners with fucking signs not even thinking of their own parents and raising sociopaths too having a complete lack of empathy just like you or that ilk, but you stand on the side line and cheer them on and want them to also have BLOOD ON THEIR HAND's because you lead by example, by being a lunatic, psychotic psychopath........................... because we after all are expendable and we cost to much money.......................got it..................

November 3, 2020 cannot get here fast enough..................

Bayard

(22,005 posts)
22. He only has to keep them alive till November
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:37 AM
Apr 2020

He's hoping to string them along till then.

"Watch what they do, not what they say".

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